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post #1231 of 1392 Old 09-16-2011, 03:49 PM
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I have an Orb Audio Mod2 setup and the amp within my Super 8 subwoofer just crapped out. Needless to say, I'm none to happy to stick with Orb and am seriously considering the Lava LSP10 subwoofer now.

My room is 13'x17'x9' - almost perfect rectangle; no odd corners, walls, etc.

Really my only question, after reading this thread, is if the LSP10 is flat up to 150hz? The Orb satellites don't reproduce frequencies below 150hz very well, and the Super 8 is a good "mid-bass" match to fill in the gap.

I'm hoping the LSP10 can do that AND add a LITTLE more extension down low (I'm not looking for a ton here).

50% HD TV/30% Movies/20% Music

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Hello, getting more active in the forum....and have been looking seriously at the Lava subs......


information:

1. $300-500
2. No real size requirement
3. Room 15x20
4. 70% HT / 30% Music
5. My system is noted below, the lava would replace the Def Tech ProSub 200TL, which i find boomy. I want a more accurate base reproduction.
6. No appearance reqirements
7. Timing - Next few months


My system:
Onkyo 805
KEF 3005SE (with 10 Inch Sub - htb2se)
Def Tech Prosub 200TL (which is a bit boomy, and not as accurate as I prefer)


Options - Sell the def tech and buy the lava (hopeing it will match the kef sub) or keep all three, and run with the kef sub, def tech sub, and the lava.

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Not too sure about home audio, but mix and matching sub woofers in car audio was always a big no no, due to cancellation and standing waves. Why not sell all your subs and get 2 lavas?
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Not too sure about home audio, but mix and matching sub woofers in car audio was always a big no no, due to cancellation and standing waves. Why not sell all your subs and get 2 lavas?

I have heard that, thanks for the reminder......not sure if I can get much for the def tech...but i could get a good penny for the kef woofer i think


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another question, still reading through the thread, but wanting a sub riser.

Any input on what riser, either the Gamma or the Subdude, fits better with the Lava 12?

thanks again,

great forum!
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The lava 12 pounds pretty good, it shakes everything in the open room I have it in, not sure if you actually need 2!
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information:
1. $300-500
2. No real size requirement
3. Room 15x20
4. 70% HT / 30% Music
5. My system is noted below, the lava would replace the Def Tech ProSub 200TL, which i find boomy. I want a more accurate base reproduction.
6. No appearance reqirements
7. Timing - Next few months
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Why not sell all your subs and get 2 lavas?

Why not sell both your subs, add your 300-500 $$ and get a real sub ???
$500 and change will get you a very nice product at Hsu or Outlaw that two Lava subs will not touch when it comes to the flatness of the frequency response or true 20Hz extension.

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Why not sell both your subs, add your 300-500 $$ and get a real sub ???
$500 and change will get you a very nice product at Hsu or Outlaw that two Lava subs will not touch when it comes to the flatness of the frequency response or true 20Hz extension.

that is a good thought.......i am just not sure what the market is for the KEF sub........any idea for how much they have been selling for?

I have looked in the classifieds here, and just don't have any benchmarks.


Thanks guys, for all the ideas!
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I have never had much luck at selling anything... so other family members usually get the flow down.... a couple of months ago my son asked if I was getting tired of my living room furniture... hint hint

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Great thread. Once I move into my new diggs I'll be getting one of the Lava subs. For HT is there really a big difference between the 10" and 12", or is it just output/volume?
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Great thread. Once I move into my new diggs I'll be getting one of the Lava subs. For HT is there really a big difference between the 10" and 12", or is it just output/volume?

Pretty much everyone recommended to me a 12" for a HT. I would have done that if it weren't for the low price of 2 Lava 10's (at the time, dunno about now).

I think, in general, you can just expect a lot more from the larger cone that a 12" offers. If you're looking at spending around specific budget points I also found that there were usually only 3-5 subs that were generally regarded as the best.

So, if you're spending under 200, 250-300, 300-400 and at that point it turned into if you're spending over 400 you might as well get XYZ for 500'ish.

Thanks to AVS for helping me with my first home theater system!

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Dear Lava Subs,

I've lived in my apartment for a year now and the front porch light never worked. So, last night (in preparation for a party) I cranked up my lsp12 subwoofer. well, it turns out the sub magically fixes my lights as well. Thanks!

Sincerely,

Me

P.S. you might want to add that to the description
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Dear Lava Subs,

I've lived in my apartment for a year now and the front porch light never worked. So, last night (in preparation for a party) I cranked up my lsp12 subwoofer. well, it turns out the sub magically fixes my lights as well. Thanks!

Sincerely,

Me

P.S. you might want to add that to the description

Or you could just tighten/replace the bulb...
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Ive been looking at the LSP12, does anyone have any experience with it?

Ill mainly be using it for 80% movies/ 20% music.

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Dear Lava Subs,

I've lived in my apartment for a year now and the front porch light never worked. So, last night (in preparation for a party) I cranked up my lsp12 subwoofer. well, it turns out the sub magically fixes my lights as well. Thanks!

Sincerely,

Me

P.S. you might want to add that to the description

Done! I have already added it to the description.

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Ive been looking at the LSP12, does anyone have any experience with it?

Ill mainly be using it for 80% movies/ 20% music.

I have a little experience with the LSP12. Feel free to email, call or chat with us.

Eric
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Just a bump for a great product (I have 2).
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Ordered an LSP-12 on Friday, we'll see how it goes.

Lava: You should add both a link to professional reviews for your subs and also maybe have a link to some positive customer comments. As it stands now your website is so hype-free!
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Where does Lava subs ship from? East Coast, West Coast?
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Was thinking about getting 2 LSP12. My room is 14'x17'x8' and opens to my kitchen will this be over kill. I'm 70% movies and 30% music. I'm looking for good bass that you can feel sitting on your couch.

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Where does Lava subs ship from? East Coast, West Coast?

Everything ships from our warehouse here in Utah and every sub goes UPS ground so if you are on the west cost you can receive your sub in 2-3 days. Florida and NY are the farthest points to ship to for us and they will normally take a full 5 business days.

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Was thinking about getting 2 LSP12. My room is 14'x17'x8' and opens to my kitchen will this be over kill. I'm 70% movies and 30% music. I'm looking for good bass that you can feel sitting on your couch.

If you will send an email to customerservice@lavasubs.com they can email you a survey that will help you decide what size sub is right for you based on your listening style as well as room size. That way you will know what size sub to look for if you end up with a Lava Sub or not.

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Has anyone been inside of these to see how well they are built.
Thanks
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Has anyone been inside of these to see how well they are built.
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There is a picture somewhere I am almost certain. They were comparing the magnet sizes to another budget sub. I remember this from when I was researching and my general take was that the lava subs looked well built for the class they are competing with.

Thanks to AVS for helping me with my first home theater system!

Panasonic ST30, Klipsch RB-61 II, RC-42 II, Denon AVR-1611, dual Lava 10" subwoofers

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Yeah there's a few pics further back in this thread comparing the lsp12 and bic pl200 drivers. The pl200 driver looks like something out of a white van. The lava subs kinda lack on the bracing otherwise looks good.
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Was thinking about getting 2 LSP12. My room is 14'x17'x8' and opens to my kitchen will this be over kill. I'm 70% movies and 30% music. I'm looking for good bass that you can feel sitting on your couch.

I would go with at least two 12" subs due to the opening into the kitchen. My brother has a slightly begger area and his dual LSP12s do an admirable job in both music an HT.
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Im looking at the Lava 12in as well as others will use 50% movies 50% music.It would go with.
Onkyo 809
Klipsch
RF-82 Fronts
RC-52 Center
RB-61 Side Surrounds.
Or should I continue to save for something bigger or more power.
Thanks
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Im looking at the Lava 12in as well as others will use 50% movies 50% music.It would go with.
Onkyo 809
Klipsch
RF-82 Fronts
RC-52 Center
RB-61 Side Surrounds.
Or should I continue to save for something bigger or more power.
Thanks

save for something that has a better low frequency response than your RF-82's

Regards,
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Has anyone been inside of these to see how well they are built.
Thanks

The review in Audioholics found here:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...sp12-subwoofer

both discusses and has pictures of the driver, box, and amp. The review is also a little shocking stating that the tuning frequency of the LSP-12 is 44Hz and that output below 35Hz is rather limited.

What this highlights is that subjective observations about this sub, (and others), is that listeners may be impressed despite a very mediocre showing when the sub is professionally tested and measurements of low frequency output are graphed.

The LSP-12 simply can't reproduce the bottom octave, 12.5 Hz - 25 Hz, and is still very limited all the way up to 35 Hz.

Also interesting is that the reviewer recommended the Emotive Ultra 12 to those who want significantly greater output under 35 Hz. At the current price of $379 delivered, the Ultra 12 is worth the difference in price.
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Just went with the Outlaw LFM-1 EX
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