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I'm new to the subs world, and trying to understand what is available.

I'm looking for something to compliment my LCR speakers for home theatre, which will all be 100W in-wall speakers that play down to 80Hz. I will never crank my stereo up to reference level, most of my viewing is with my volume between -19dB and -30dB (this is where the WAF kicks in for me). With that in mind, I think it's tough to justify big money for an awesome sub that will never be played loud.

I have a huge room (~8k cf) that the sub will fit in, but I've become to realize that to drive a room that size at a high level, I will need to spend a lot more than I can afford. Maybe one day when the kids are out of the house I'll be able to turn a bedroom into a home theatre room (and will be able to crank it as loud as I'd like to) but that day is a long ways off.

so my requirements are:
1. budget: let's shoot for $350. I can go more, but I have to be convinced it will be worth it.
2. size/form factor: I don't really care.
3. room dimensions: family room that opens into eat in kitchen and is open to the second floor. I'm estimating 8k cf.
4. primary usage: 90 HT/10 music

Here's what I've gathered so far - I'd like to hear recommendations on these, but please feel free to toss out others:
  • emotiva Ultra10 ($289): 200W, 10", sealed, 25-200Hz
  • Elemental Design A3S-250 ($350): 300W, 10", sealed, 25-100Hz
  • Lava LSP12: ($338.46): 250W, 12", ported, 22-200Hz
  • Hsu Research STF-2 ($388): 200W, 10", sealed, 25- Hz
  • BIC F12 ($170) 150W, 12", ported, 25-200Hz
  • BIC PL-200 ($270): 250W, 12", ported, 22-200Hz
(note: cost is delivered)

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1 sub solution: BIC PL-200 ($270)
2 sub solution: 2 x BIC F12 ($340)

With a room that size, and a limited budget, you really might want to go with option 2. Or, perhaps pick up one PL-200 now, and save up for a second one later.

I should ask this: is this mainly for movies, or is music your priority?

If it's for music, go with Emotiva's sealed sub now and pick up a second one later. If it's for movies, then I really think the two options I listed above are your best bet.

Good luck!
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1 sub solution: BIC PL-200 ($270)
2 sub solution: 2 x BIC F12 ($340)

With a room that size, and a limited budget, you really might want to go with option 2. Or, perhaps pick up one PL-200 now, and save up for a second one later.

I should ask this: is this mainly fir movies, or is music your priority?

If it's for music, go with Emotica's sealed sub now and pick up a second one later. If it's for movies, then u really think the two options I listed above are your best bet.

Good luck!

thanks for the reply - I'll add the BIC to my list.

I am looking for HT primarily.
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You could also try buying a used sub.
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Right now, was I'm looking at things, it comes down to three:
  • BIC PL-200: 12", ported
  • Emotiva Ultra 10: 10" sealed
  • Lava LSP12: 12" ported

Seeing as how I am looking for HT mostly in a large room, I think ported is what I'm looking for, which makes it between the BIC and the Lava. Frankly, I think I like the fact that Lava has a 30 day money back policy - that might be the decision maker right there.
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Right now, was I'm looking at things, it comes down to three:

[*]BIC PL-200: 12", ported[*]Emotiva Ultra 10: 10" sealed[*]Lava LSP12: 12" ported


Seeing as how I am looking for HT mostly in a large room, I think ported is what I'm looking for, which makes it between the BIC and the Lava. Frankly, I think I like the fact that Lava has a 30 day money back policy - that might be the decision maker right there.

My lava is supposed to be here any minute. I'm gonna give my impressions on the lava sub thread shortly after that.
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Premier Acoustic PA-150 ($362 using codeTV)
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Premier Acoustic PA-150 ($362 using codeTV)

Wow,
Anyone know anything about these?

Aside from these, think of all value that is available these days in subs...unbelievable.

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i think you'd do a lot better to look at used...maybe an HSU vtf3 mkII 12" sub would be a good option. probably around your price range, or an SVS pb12 or nsd12?
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I'm very impressed with my lava 12. I can't dazzle you w numbers or readings from an spl meter, but in my living room, this thing sounds awesome. I can't imagine something better that costs the same as what I paid for this.
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Thanks for all of the replies.

One other thing I'd be interested in is a down-firing sub, as I have small children in the house (3 and 1, plus all of the other 1-3 yr olds in the neighborhood). I think down-firing subs would be inherently more secure.

Anyone have any suggestions on down-firing subs in this range?
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Thanks for all of the replies.

One other thing I'd be interested in is a down-firing sub, as I have small children in the house (3 and 1, plus all of the other 1-3 yr olds in the neighborhood). I think down-firing subs would be inherently more secure.

Anyone have any suggestions on down-firing subs in this range?

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html
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Thanks for all of the replies.

One other thing I'd be interested in is a down-firing sub, as I have small children in the house (3 and 1, plus all of the other 1-3 yr olds in the neighborhood). I think down-firing subs would be inherently more secure.

Anyone have any suggestions on down-firing subs in this range?

I think with your budget, listening preference and room size a ported sub would be your best choice...two ported subs actually. I second palehorse's suggestion or another option would be dual PA-120 subs for a little extra(they look nicer).
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+1, used to own one of these, very nice sub, the tightest ported sub you will find in its price class.
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I got a Klipsch Sub - 12 used for $300. If you can find one for this much get it. It goes down to 20 hz while still delivering wall rattling bass.
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Thanks for all of the replies.

One other thing I'd be interested in is a down-firing sub, as I have small children in the house (3 and 1, plus all of the other 1-3 yr olds in the neighborhood). I think down-firing subs would be inherently more secure.

Anyone have any suggestions on down-firing subs in this range?

Down firing is fine, but watch out for that port. Is the perfect place to put all your toys...LOL!
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I got a Klipsch Sub - 12 used for $300. If you can find one for this much get it. It goes down to 20 hz while still delivering wall rattling bass.

I purchased one of these for $249 brand new from newegg.com. I sold it the same day I received it. Definitely wsa not as good as some here hype it up to be. It was okay. But no wall rattling bass like a big sub would produce. and I know it does not go down flat to 20hz with any level of decent output.
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Down firing is fine, but watch out for that port. Is the perfect place to put all your toys...LOL!

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