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Are you working on my speaker too?
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That's a pure Nathan production.

He's actually pretty smart.

Only needs me to count higher than 10, then I remind him to take off his socks.

Then he's good to twenty.


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But he doesn't like odd numbers

I saw the rare smile while I was demoing.
We are pretty excited. Probably him more than me.

Sensed a bit of excitement. Almost like he's been waiting....
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It is true we are working a few new things, nothings quite ready for details yet, but they will be very exciting.

Anyone have any thoughts; 21.0 vs. 21.2

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Wear a helmet Nathan.

For the 21.0

+3dB on every level compared to the 18.0 with similar distortion or less? Possibly more efficiency on the higher end 30/35+ Or maybe I'm dreaming.

For the 21.2

This one just scares me... Are you sure your facility can handle it? Last time I was there the 18.2 the entire place shook...

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Interesting
Happy want to get one...
Mad it's not on for 50$
Reality sets in, Can't and shouldn't get anymore...at least for now


6.1P on sales ($2200 Shipped in north America)
I could get these, at this price. Can't go wrong

8.2P Demo also on sale ($4850) - Not sure shipped or not...
Those 8.2P are in very good condition. Like they are brand new. Saw them 2 weeks ago
Someone should grab them

Seems like someone is working on the website at around 11PM
brb

F5 ing' the Funk Audio site, hopefully someone makes a typo on the price....

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For the 21.0

+3dB on every level compared to the 18.0 with similar distortion or less? Possibly more efficiency on the higher end 30/35+ Or maybe I'm dreaming.

For the 21.2

This one just scares me... Are you sure your facility can handle it? Last time I was there the 18.2 the entire place shook...

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Interesting
Happy want to get one...
Mad it's not on for 50$
Reality sets in, Can't and shouldn't get anymore...at least for now


6.1P on sales ($2200 Shipped in north America)
I could get these, at this price. Can't go wrong

8.2P Demo also on sale ($4850) - Not sure shipped or not...
Those 8.2P are in very good condition. Like they are brand new. Saw them 2 weeks ago
Someone should grab them

Seems like someone is working on the website at around 11PM
brb

F5 ing' the Funk Audio site, hopefully someone makes a typo on the price....
The 21 should have around 6db more then the current 18.0 40hz down, roughly the same 50hz up. We are always working to lower distortion but the 18.0 is already very good so if we can get it to have similar distortion at its limits we will be happy.

All prices on our site include shipping in North America

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Just want to let everyone know we will be exhibiting agian this year at Rocky Mountain Audio Fest October 10-12. We will be in room 437
https://audiofest.net/2014/
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Although I love my DXD12012, I am very curious about the Funk 18.0. I was actually thinking of selling my DXD12012 and purchase two 18.0s instead of going DXD DUO.

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Although I love my DXD12012, I am very curious about the Funk 18.0. I was actually thinking of selling my DXD12012 and purchase two 18.0s instead of going DXD DUO.
DXD12012 - 112 SQ inch x2 = 224?
Funk 18.0 = 254 SQ inch

This does not put linear excursions into consideration either. Many subs outperform the DXD at similar price let alone funks. DXD subs list very little information important information.
DataBass lists measurements if you need them. There is a very good reason why people consider these guys to be best sealed subs in the market.

A single Funk 18.0 will completely blow it out of the water and can compete with the SUB2 from paradigm. Two would require another outlet on it's own line.
It's not going to be even a fair comparison.

Funk Audio Subs are proven to perform in real world and are in their own class. Simply because they are extremely clean and very low distortion. Amps are also World class and highly efficient.
If you read about the Vancouver GTG 2014 results, Everyone literally came down to the same results without question.

I must warn you, Once you get 2 of these, you will never be able to go back to any other subs.
Give Nathan a call if your still interested, hope this helps.
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DXD12012 - 112 SQ inch x2 = 224?
Funk 18.0 = 254 SQ inch

This does not put linear excursions into consideration either. Many subs outperform the DXD at similar price let alone funks. DXD subs list very little information important information.
DataBass lists measurements if you need them. There is a very good reason why people consider these guys to be best sealed subs in the market.

A single Funk 18.0 will completely blow it out of the water and can compete with the SUB2 from paradigm. Two would require another outlet on it's own line.
It's not going to be even a fair comparison.

Funk Audio Subs are proven to perform in real world and are in their own class. Simply because they are extremely clean and very low distortion. Amps are also World class and highly efficient.
If you read about the Vancouver GTG 2014 results, Everyone literally came down to the same results without question.

I must warn you, Once you get 2 of these, you will never be able to go back to any other subs.
Give Nathan a call if your still interested, hope this helps.

I am pretty much limited to one dedicated outlet for one sub, and the other will more than likely have to share an outlet with the equipment.
I understand the Funk 18.0 has serious output, but I just hope its also very musical, and able to vanish in the room without calling any attention to itself. Wish I could demo it in my home.

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I am pretty much limited to one dedicated outlet for one sub, and the other will more than likely have to share an outlet with the equipment.
I understand the Funk 18.0 has serious output, but I just hope its also very musical, and able to vanish in the room without calling any attention to itself. Wish I could demo it in my home.
This is going to be the most musical sub you can find from low volume to high.
It's even compared to the LMS Ultra from tc sounds and it still out performs that. Before funk the ultra was known as the best sub with a lot of musicality. Funk can beat that with the tsadv1 let alone the 18.2

In terms of musicality funk audio very well could be the most musical in the world along with sheer output and efficiency. Distortion levels prove it as well.

You don't have to worry about the musicality of the Funk 18.0... Nathan will be getting you the best. The only driver that can beat it is his own drivers up higher in the line and as far as I know the only difference is power and spl if I remember correctly.

Send Nathan an email or call. I sure he will be able to set you up something awesome. What ever your getting from Funk speaker or sub is going to be a fairly large upgrade.

Also the performance is effortless. You will know what I mean when you get one.

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I am pretty much limited to one dedicated outlet for one sub, and the other will more than likely have to share an outlet with the equipment.
I understand the Funk 18.0 has serious output, but I just hope its also very musical, and able to vanish in the room without calling any attention to itself. Wish I could demo it in my home.


BIGBEAR should you do the switch please post the results , Funk subs seem to be the real deal !
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BIGBEAR should you do the switch please post the results , Funk subs seem to be the real deal !
Will do.

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This is going to be the most musical sub you can find from low volume to high.
It's even compared to the LMS Ultra from tc sounds and it still out performs that. Before funk the ultra was known as the best sub with a lot of musicality. Funk can beat that with the tsadv1 let alone the 18.2

In terms of musicality funk audio very well could be the most musical in the world along with sheer output and efficiency. Distortion levels prove it as well.

You don't have to worry about the musicality of the Funk 18.0... Nathan will be getting you the best. The only driver that can beat it is his own drivers up higher in the line and as far as I know the only difference is power and spl if I remember correctly.

Send Nathan an email or call. I sure he will be able to set you up something awesome. What ever your getting from Funk speaker or sub is going to be a fairly large upgrade.

Also the performance is effortless. You will know what I mean when you get one.

I have been going over some reviews and speaking with Nathan, and I believe a single 18.0 has more than enough power for my needs. Nathan also advised me that he is releasing a new 18.0C model, which is slightly smaller
than the 18.0, and using a version of the TSAD18. He mentioned the performance, sound quality and distortion is identical to the 18.0 minus the same output of course. The new 18.0C does come with 1000Watt DSP amp
and it looks absolutely gorgeous. I was in awe when Nathan showed it to me and still am. I am considering getting two revised 18.0C models instead, as it will fill my room better than a single 18.0. Nathan did mention a pair of
the new 18.0C will have more output (3 or 4db more) than a single 18.0 at all frequencies. Right now I am just finalizing my choice before I place the order.

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I have been going over some reviews and speaking with Nathan, and I believe a single 18.0 has more than enough power for my needs. Nathan also advised me that he is releasing a new 18.0C model, which is slightly smaller
than the 18.0, and using a version of the TSAD18. He mentioned the performance, sound quality and distortion is identical to the 18.0 minus the same output of course. The new 18.0C does come with 1000Watt DSP amp
and it looks absolutely gorgeous. I was in awe when Nathan showed it to me and still am. I am considering getting two revised 18.0C models instead, as it will fill my room better than a single 18.0. Nathan did mention a pair of
the new 18.0C will have more output (3 or 4db more) than a single 18.0 at all frequencies. Right now I am just finalizing my choice before I place the order.

The revised 18.0C
Woah that's a heck of an improvement! I'm sure you will be very happy with it. Everything he does has very low distortion and is extremely clean.
You can definitely trust Nathan with subs. There is no better man for that. Just don't disappear like the rest of the guys and respond back to us We all want to know the results
I'm sure he will be able to help you out with the details.

Thanks for posting the pictures!

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We are also working on upgrading the driver and amp in the 18.1. With the same new 1000 watt amp and a TSAD18 driver.

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What does everyone think about these two options for our next new product;

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21.0
Same enclosure as the 18.0, but the front corner radius would be limited to fairly small roundover, ~1/4" radius
Available with 2400 watt or 4800 watt built in amplification. Priced at around 4800, 5700 respectively.
Expected to have 2-5db higher output than the 18.0, dependent on frequency and power level.

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21.3
Same enclosure shape, height and width, as the curved sided 18.3, but 46" high. With 2400 watt built in amplification. Expected price would be around 6500. It is expected to have ~3db higher output than the 18.3 15-30hz.


Which one do you think we should do first?
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21.0

Although the bottom is going to be crazy on the 21.3 if my predictions are right.
Now if my room were 3 times larger

21.2 Please Maybe a motor that allows for 4" of linear excursion from a under hung motor

But atm I want my 18.2

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21.2 Please Maybe a motor that allows for 4" of linear excursion from a under hung motor
I have a drawing
8" diameter underhung voice coil with full length shorting sleeve
3.5" linear p-p travel, useable to 4"
Enclosure would be ~28" wide, ~23 high ~23 deep for dual opposed 21" system
Linear Displacement would be aprox 5 times the 18.0(2.5 times the 18.2)
Power would be 10-20,000 RMS
Cost; in the neighborhood of 30-40k

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Which one do you think we should do first?
Madness I say

I guess my first question would be how much "deep" output (read <20Hz) would the 21.0/4.8kW add over the extant 18.0? I would assume without the benefit of a larger enclosure, the gains would be somewhat limited. If that's the case, I'm not sure I really see the point of the 21.0 over the 18.0 given that it's nearly double the cost. More to the point, if we're talking about a fully calibrated multi-sub system, I don't see a lot of advantage to using the 21.0 as a building block vs the 18.0. Yeah, one to one the 21.0 has more output, but when you've got 4 or 8 of either sitting in your room, how much does it really matter?
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In fact the gains are mostly under 30hz, with the 2.4 kw it should have ~3 db more 20hz down. With 4.8kw it could have as much as 6db more 10-20hz. So as far as around 30hz down is concerned the 21.0 would offer the same output/dollar ratio as the 18.0, but do so in the same size enclosure. We will be building a prototype soon and will have some more definite numbers then.

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Very impressive if you can realize those gains down low from the same sized enclosure. What's the timetable on the prototype? I'm not in the market, but curious to see the end result. As you might gather with respect to your original question, the sealed model is more interesting to me.
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We are hoping to have it ready in time for rocky mountain audio fest
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I have a drawing
8" diameter underhung voice coil with full length shorting sleeve
3.5" linear p-p travel, useable to 4"
Enclosure would be ~28" wide, ~23 high ~23 deep for dual opposed 21" system
Linear Displacement would be aprox 5 times the 18.0(2.5 times the 18.2)
Power would be 10-20,000 RMS
Cost; in the neighborhood of 30-40k
30-40k
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Nathan, I would do the 21.0 model. I think it would have greater general interest than a 21.3. If it is louder under 30hz, would it also go lower at well vs 18.0?
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30-40k
Excellent I will be getting my first Funk Audio Subwoofer soon

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I don't think I need to explain this one


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As much as I liked the Funk sub Nathan brought over I would have an extremely had time paying 30-40k for a single sub.


Can we get a shot of the cone?
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This is going to be for the 21.0, the motor is 9" outer diameter neo design, like the 18.2 motor. The motor for 8" coil with 4" travel would be 14.5" outer diameter and almost twice as tall.

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Can we get a shot of the cone?

Cone isn't ready yet, need to apply carbon fiber to the cone, that picture is just a mockup. I will post pictures as we go.

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