Bosso the problem I have with your accusations against CHT is that you do the EXACT
same thing you accuse Craig of.
For example, the chart you just posted on the previous page based on our shootout FR's? - you've changed the wording to say that the CS18.1 FR curve is "no boost
". That is misleading. You know full well that we labeled it "unequalized
" and a guy as smart as you knows the difference. We did not boost the CS18.1 down at 25 or 20hz.
Even if we did, you are also smart enough to know that boosting down low would make it harder
to keep up with the A7s-450's output over the 8 pieces of test material, not easier
and so in no way was ANY
of these subs given an unfair advantage over the other.
You also keep pointing to our FR chart as "proof" of some sort of specification exaggeration on CHT's part, reproducing them to make it APPEAR as if the CS18.1 has no bottom end. You know full well that FR's move parallel
, and its the shape of the curve that matters most, not where it plots on the chart. So let's move the FR's to line up on 25hz (maybe I should've plotted them this way in the first place) so we can see a clear picture of how each sub rolls off after 25hz:
Between 25-20hz, yessir, there's no doubt the CS18.1 by far drops the most
. BUT, none of these manufacturers rated their sub's FR flatness to 25hz, it was 22hz and below. So let's look at 20hz to 15hz. The CS18.1 does the best - by far
. And from 22hz to 15hz the A7s-450 and CS18.1 are just about the same. There's no valid reason for singling any of these companies out for shortcomings that are common to any sub placed in a real-world listening environment. That is the whole point of this shootout.
Each sub has a right to be here. Each one has a valid reason to be somebody's "best sub". When someone says "Hey I picked Sub-X based on your shootout, thanks guys" we say "Excellent choice." And its true every time.
Anywho, I appreciate that this time around you've been civil and have not used argumentative language. However, by now we've beat this dead horse into a paste and spread it on crackers. Can we please just agree to disagree on some things and move on?