Originally Posted by MKtheater
Why, the speaker works as is. Actually people prefer it to other speakers with real crossovers. Go figure.
Lots of confirmation bias. Doesn't mean much.
Many I'm sure have upgraded from cheaper soft dome options and just the dynamics and directivity upgrade itself helped I'm sure. If nothing else, it was very "different", therefore everyone assumes "better". I'm not saying it isn't or wasn't- it's just not a useful objective yardstick to use when evaluating this design.
That sure doesn't mean there isn't a LOT of room for improvement though.
You know why, we've already hashed out the specifics here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1490951/can-i-upgrade-my-sho-10-speakers/0_60
Do we know of any other commercial design that is as lazily put together, with just an off the shelf crossover?
I understand we're trying to be cost effective here, but c'mon. You can pick up any of the DIY SEOS kits for the same price and add some clamp and glue time, roll on some paint. It's not like the SHO-10 is a looker, and the target audience appreciates the savings because it isn't a priority. At least with those options you get a fully custom crossover with someone having actually thought out where the crossover point should be instead of being forced to use the crossover designed long before the SHO-10 was even a thought.
Let's stick with facts and leave the "it sounds better!" subjectivity out of it. This is an experience designer with plenty of time working with the woofer in the SHO-10:
Originally Posted by tuxedocivic
1600hz second order is to high for the delta 10a. I've done over 4 complete speakers using the delta 10. In every case I've used 4th order or 3rd order plus a notch at 2500hz. That's a very strong XO for a passive speaker. And stock XOers never include BSC.
The SHO-10 needs a real crossover. The one it has now is lazy. These are facts; I see no use in telling manufacturers their lazy designs are "good enough", we should have higher standards around here by now.