Originally Posted by MKtheater
I am glad you know that to be fact. It must be nice to say whatever you want. He said he changes the woofer and crossover. If you can prove that to be false go right ahead. That would take you to buy both and open them up to compare. If that happens and they are identical then my attitude will change.
Where has he said that MK, do you have a link? The burden of proof here is on you, not Chu. Everything about this matches the Vcomtek MS-10+, and given the history, it only makes sense.
This is all of the information given on the Theater-10:
From the product overview that has a post date of March 6th 2013 and the initial pictures with Vcomtek badging:
The Theater-10 monitor is our replacement for the current PRO/SHO-10's. It is a highly efficient (94 + dB) monitor that took the strengths of the current PRO/SHO monitors and added to them extension to 60 Hz (-6 dB).
We are testing the monitors in our system now, and while Audyssey would set the PRO/SHO to 100-120 Hz in our room, it is setting 80 Hz on the new monitors. The 94 dB rating is based on the lowest sensitivity of the woofer. If we rated it like the PRO's were, they would come with a 97 dB rating.
So initial design is claimed to be -6dB at 60Hz and 94dB sensitivity.
Here's an update on August 1st 2013:
The MS-10 will have all the changes we specified in the production model for us. The -6 dB point is now 58 Hz, where their original design was -10 dB at 60 Hz. We sacrificed some sensitivity (now 94 dB) to get the lower floor, but it was important to get the MS-10 so Audyssey would set the crossover at between 60 and 80 Hz, which it has been doing in our rather large theater.
There were some additional changes, all specifically for us. The speakers as production models will not have the Vcomtek badging on them. They also will not have Speakon connectors - we specified nickel binding posts instead so our customers will not have to buy adapter cables.
So here we have badging and binding posts being changed for production.
Scratching our heads, we take a look at the "original design" as mentioned with specs available here- it's doubtful Chase knew they were public information, but regardless here they are: http://www.vcomtek.com/product/Professional_sound_speaker/2012/0525/83.htmlFrequency response: 60HZ-19KHZ
How far down these points are isn't mentioned, but the standard for pro monitors seems to be Frequency Response = -6dB point, Frequency Range = -10dB. (For example, QSC K10: http://www.qscaudio.com/products/speakers/k_series/k_series_k10.php
So we have some very strange information here; Chase is claiming to have changed the original design to -6dB at 60Hz by sacrificing some sensitivity. Problem is, the new sensitivity is the same as the old sensitivity. Which probably explains why the response is -6dB at 60Hz before in March, matching original design specs and also after the claimed modifications. Does he mean that he sacrificed the sensitivity of the SHO-10 (97dB) to get the response lower (-6dB at 60Hz)? No, because he specifically stated, "The 94 dB rating is based on the lowest sensitivity of the woofer. If we rated it like the PRO's were, they would come with a 97 dB rating." So no sensitivity was sacrificed in that regard either. So what the heck is all this nonsense about then?
Nothing has changed. This is the same game that was played with the SHO-10 when they tried to convince everyone the crossover was custom. Um, padding the tweeter does not a custom crossover make. Then they claimed the Delta-10a in the SHO-10 was custom from Eminence.
In the end, it was ordered in quantity from Eminence and this somehow made it a "custom" driver just for Chase.