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Watching a movie called "Take Shelter". The LFE sounds impressive in my room!
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Watching a movie called "Take Shelter". The LFE sounds impressive in my room!


I guess that's why the call it "Take Shelter".



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As indicated in the first post of this thread, the animated film "9" comes with plenty of good bass tones. In fact, it has much more than I remembered from the first time seeing it, but back then I didn't have a good subwoofer to bring out all that great bass.

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I get it

Must be from a different generation.


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THOR is worth watching for LFE.

Movie is great too.
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THOR is worth watching for LFE.

Movie is great too.

I rented Thor shortly before I purchased the SVS PC12-NSD sub and the LFE sounded awesome on my modest Velodyne sealed sub. I'm sure that pales in comparison to what it would sound like now. I will have to give this another rent to experience it with a REAL SUB!

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Immortals - Chapter 13

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Damn. Roll-off below 10.

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Kick-Ass chapter 9 - shooting scene at end of chapter - -movie



My charts are little different, maybe yours are only stereo bass charts(that fotp one too). How you do them exactly?

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Wow... TH only got a 3.5?? I totally disagree with that!

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Agreed! Troll Hunter has lots of LFE. Should be 4-4.5 stars for sure. I watched it last night. It was pretty entertaining.

Why, it's pretty weak bass movie. That huge troll was so lame in bass, only half good scene was that bridge scene. Did you guys watch dubbed track, it may have better bass than original norge track. Maybe flageborg can give us comparison, my dvd have only norge DD 5.1.

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Thanks Scott!

It is a PITA to setup to measure this stuff now, so I won't be doing more of these charts anytime soon, unless I have reason to reach the back panel of my receiver, which is wy I did this set, I was doing some cable management...

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Hey, welcome to my world. I have done that a loong time that way, though not so long time ago i bought y-splitter to my receiver sub out, so no need to crawl anymore to back of my receiver.

Thanks for a thx charts, my favorite is that what is in those old indy dvd before movie.

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Much to do about nothing.

There is so little 8 Hz in Black Hawk Down that it is easy to miss. There is only about 3 seconds in the F'ing Irene scene with high level 8 hz. Most people can not even tell you what is happening on-screen when that 3 seconds worth of 8 Hz is available.

It have nothing to do how many seconds there is that 7hz signal, if you have good extension to there, you got it, like this funny guy did.(RIP Krypto)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3V1F...7&feature=plcp

btw listened this scene in local digiexpo with genelec 150k 7.3 system and of course didn't feel much anything because room response only to 15hz in that big room.



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Immortals, new bass movie of the month! Got to be a real bass head to enjoy this one...made the wife leave the room.

Yep, for some time...

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I'm relatively new to this thread (having just purchased a sub that qualifies to post on here) and have never chimed in with a placement recommendation, but IMHO if this title doesn't fit into that category, nothing will. I see that Master and Commander: Far Side of the World was given 4.5 stars; I just viewed that the other night and aside from the cannon scenes it had nothing on Immortals. Immortals rocks the house in MANY scenes, and several times it definitely reaches subsonic levels.

Did you watch blu-ray, because it have filtered bass response at 35hz and down and if you didnt notice 4.5 star ranking was meant to dvd dts track(though region b blu-ray have spanish dts track which is even better than english dts track).

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There was a very low scene in immortals that was pulsing and then you can hear it get louder as the frequency moved up. I forgot which scene it was but I wonder how low it was.

Maybe it was that bull statue scene, it did have very low(was it 12hz tone), but no where near amplitude like that spike helmet god comes down(35hz?) scene.

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Going to go against the rest of you guys. The LFE of Immortal was very very good. But, imo not quite in Cloverfield territory. I vote a solid 4.5.

Agreed fully, not quite there with wotw, hot fuzz, and others fives.

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Help me out! I'm a newcomer to this thread and thus I'm ignorant of the exact criteria used for each tier. In a previous post I compared Immortals to Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World and I made the observation that Immortals has much more *quantity* of bass than MAC:TFSOTW (which is pretty much limited to the two cannon scenes and the storm at sea scene; they are impressive, but don't occupy much of the running time of the movie) and so I concluded that Immortals should be bumped up a notch to 5 stars. Is this faulty reasoning?

Again, what I really want to know is the criteria for judging the placement of each Blu-ray. Is it the *quality* of the bass heard that matters most? (As opposed to *quantity* which may not be as precise and dynamic.) Help me out!

Yep, quality, quantity, peak amplitude and what hertz it have mainly.

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But who determines the final placement? In other words, who is moderating the thread?

Hello, it is me.



There was some clipping every now and then, if my ears aren't lying to me. I almost feel like the re-recording mixers were hanging out here at AVS thinking, "They want bass? We'll give them something to talk about."

Here's apparently where the movie was mixed: http://www.meyersound.com/news/2011/wildfire_studios/[/quote]


Yep, it was pretty bad in places(that fire whip and tsunami sounded baad). I wonder what they where smoking in Wildfire Studios.

"We mixed 'Immortals' on the system, a film with some serious action scenes in the last reel. I was struck by the clarity in the low frequencies and the total lack of high-frequency distortion even at very high levels."

Maybe only 4 star max. What you guy's think?
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Maybe only 4 star max. What you guy's think?

I'm still at five stars for Immortals. I was less impressed with Hot Fuzz, honestly, than this movie. WotW... everything's going to come up short compared to that one. It's the five star movie which all other fivers aspire to be
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I'll check out Immortals in the next week or so, but my judgment is clouded by only a 15Hz system:



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I agree with 4 stars for immortals..there was definitely distortion in the fire whip and tsunami scenes.It seemed as if the sound wasnt filtered for home playback,so you have to engage some sort of thx processing if your receiver has it.And at the end when the mountain comes down,i expected a lot more bass..As for black hawk down,i never understood where is the great bass in that..all the explosions dont have depth compared to a similar war movie like saving private ryan..
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It have nothing to do how many seconds there is that 7hz signal, if you have good extension to there, you got it, like this funny guy did.(RIP Krypto)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3V1F...7&feature=plcp

Here is a waterfall of your Youtube link....

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I agree with 4 stars for immortals..there was definitely distortion in the fire whip and tsunami scenes.It seemed as if the sound wasnt filtered for home playback,so you have to engage some sort of thx processing if your receiver has it.And at the end when the mountain comes down,i expected a lot more bass..As for black hawk down,i never understood where is the great bass in that..all the explosions dont have depth compared to a similar war movie like saving private ryan..

You'd only notice the bass in the irene scene if you had subs that can dig really low and play loud! Not even my dual lfm1 ex's do that scene justice

Saw war horse at a second run theater and thought the arty scenes were pretty good. Same with the galloping horses

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

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My charts are little different....

My recordings from Kick-Ass are when Girl shoots her way, from elevator through library hallway, and killing a lot of guys in spectacular ways....messy
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And at the end when the mountain comes down,i expected a lot more bass..

Yeah.....me too

Immortals - Chapter 18 - Mountain Comes Down...

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You expect more bass??! Doesn't that SpecLab graph above show a lot of bass right across the spectrum from 6 - 100Hz?
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You expect more bass??! Doesn't that SpecLab graph above show a lot of bass right across the spectrum from 6 - 100Hz?

Think he might've been being sarcastic. If Immortals is a 4 and Hot Fuzz is a 5, something's wrong.
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I still maintain a 5 for Immortals as well. That movie and Tron are my two favorite lfe demo source material discs because they have several scenes of intense lfe. WOTW is amazing, but only for that one scene.
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I'm still at five stars for Immortals. I was less impressed with Hot Fuzz, honestly, than this movie. WotW... everything's going to come up short compared to that one. It's the five star movie which all other fivers aspire to be

From the titles I've seen in the 5 star list, I agree that WOTW is "King of the hill."

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I'll check out Immortals in the next week or so, but my judgment is clouded by only a 15Hz system:

15Hz is low enough to get most of the fun out of Immortals. After I saw it on my system I got the chance to see it with a sub that could do reference to only 40Hz... that was not pleasant.

Personally, I was already at four and a half after watching it... I tend to try and vote five only after looking at it in Speclab. Once I did, I saw enough for five stars there. For me, the mountain collapse is not as impressive as the tsunami, but it's still rather potent.

It just compares well, I think, to most of the other five stars not named War of the Worlds
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I personally can't go above 4 stars for Immortals. I found Transformers DOTM to be more impressive with the bass; maybe not as low, but quantity!!

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I personally can't go above 4 stars for Immortals. I found Transformers DOTM to be more impressive with the bass; maybe not as low, but quantity!!

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I have yet to hear a Blue Ray as good as DOTM!
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Been following the thread, but first-time posting.

I'll also throw in my vote on 'Immortals' as no higher than 4 stars -- the quantity is there for sure but terribly lacking in quality. It's not very clean and much too muddled and boomy, such as the mountain collapse.

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Quality, quantity, peak amplitude and what hertz it have mainly.

Immortals has it all in spades. I also thought that there may have been some clipping, but this has not been shown yet. It may just sound like it is such as Inception bath tub dunk and been designed that way. Also may sound clipped to some because your subs are clipping. Besides I thought Tron showed some clipping, and its still a 5. If you are going to punish it for quality, there is still no 4 stars that compare and it would be a strong 4.5 IMO.
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I have yet to hear a Blue Ray as good as DOTM!

Revenge of the Fallen is better, IMO overall for sound... More unique sounds, less rehash, less robot drool/blood, but also plagued by a bad storyline. Great use of ~20Hz for effect, and some sub-20Hz subharmonics and extension for the heftier blows. One of the deepest 'thuds' is when Megs jams a knee into Starscream's chest on the Nemesis after he is 'resurrected', with extension to just under 10Hz, IIRC. If that movie would have had a better plot and story arc, it would have been the best of the series.

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First off, let me begin by thanking everyone for their recommendations on movies with 5 star bass. I've added quite a few to my dvd/bluray library and have enjoyed watching them countless times. I don't know if there are any fans of the AMC show Breaking Bad out there, but I'm rather impressed with the hot LFE in the 3rd season episodes. I've got no way of measuring it, but if someone else wants to take a listen, it'd be the episode called Más at the 2:05. There are quite a few episodes in Season 3 that have impressive LFE, and I hope there are others that are fans of the show as I am.
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DOTM has a crazy awesome 7.1 mix though.

Watching some scenes of it again right now lol. I still prefer rotf

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

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