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Just watched Jurassic park on the new blu-ray box set & have to say its a 5, totally amazing on my DD18+
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God Of War 3 has got some really good bass.

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Are you kidding me!!!
Hellboy is only rated 3 stars???
WTF!?!?!
That movie has some serious bass.
It should be 4.5 to 5 stars.

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Are you kidding me!!!
Hellboy is only rated 3 stars???
WTF!?!?!
That movie has some serious bass.
It should be 4.5 to 5 stars.

That's ok, there isn't much talk about Pirates Of The Caribbean AT Worlds End either, which is full of very good bass scenes. However to get the best sound, you need to select the PCM version.


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Watched Immortals yesterday and GREAT LFE flick! Lots of fun and great moments throughout. Those bow scenes like djoberg mentioned were all awesome, especially the one where it blew a hole in the fortress gate........the wave of LFE after the arrow hit the gate was fantastic! Easy 4.5, maybe 5 in my book.

Watched 3 Musketeers as well which had surprisingly good LFE. Not quite up to Immortals level, but still VERY good.

I KNEW you'd be impressed with Immortals Toe! And I agree with your comment that it's an "easy 4.5, maybe 5 in my book."

I'm sure you saw the graph Flageborg posted on the three bow scenes. I mentioned that I'm a newbie in reading those graphs, so what is your interpretation of them?

I also watched The Three Musketeers and enjoyed the LFE, especially some of the battle scenes with the cannons going off. It's probably worthy of a 4 Star placement.

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I KNEW you'd be impressed with Immortals Toe! And I agree with your comment that it's an "easy 4.5, maybe 5 in my book."

I'm sure you saw the graph Flageborg posted on the three bow scenes. I mentioned that I'm a newbie in reading those graphs, so what is your interpretation of them?

I also watched The Three Musketeers and enjoyed the LFE, especially some of the battle scenes with the cannons going off. It's probably worthy of a 4 Star placement.

Those graphs from immortals means there are high levels of bass down to 3HZ!

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Those graphs from immortals means there are high levels of bass down to 3HZ!

Thank you.....and AWESOME!

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Are you kidding me!!!
Hellboy is only rated 3 stars???
WTF!?!?!
That movie has some serious bass.
It should be 4.5 to 5 stars.

I might go 3.5 for Hellboy 1, but that is it and I certainly would not argue against a 3 either, but that is just me. Hellboy 2..........5 star in my book. Watch Hellboy 1 and Hellboy 2 back to back which will put Hellboy 1 LFE into perspective. I did this just a few months ago and was surprised how Hellboy 1 seems a bit limp in quite a few places these days to my ears. Its funny how this happens though because when I first heard this PCM track when it first hit blu, I probably would have rated it a 4.5-5. Not sure what has happened between now and then, but 3-3.5 sounds about right to me in light of today's competition. Throw on Immortals, Battle LA, Tron Legacy, TIH, Cloverfield, Hellboy 2, etc.......does Hellboy still seem like a 4.5-5 star?

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I KNEW you'd be impressed with Immortals Toe! And I agree with your comment that it's an "easy 4.5, maybe 5 in my book."

I'm sure you saw the graph Flageborg posted on the three bow scenes. I mentioned that I'm a newbie in reading those graphs, so what is your interpretation of them?

I also watched The Three Musketeers and enjoyed the LFE, especially some of the battle scenes with the cannons going off. It's probably worthy of a 4 Star placement.

Immortals was awesome! Great LFE fix I almost watched it again, but ended up getting side tracked last night.

Sorry man! I missed your question on the graphs somehow. Someone here can explain it better than me, but basically like MKtheater said, those graphs mean there is lots of LFE (at least in those particular scenes, but we know this movie is loaded with it off/on throughout), it is loud and it has not been filtered which are all good things
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What I like about immortals is that you can really feel the lows which are not covered up by very high spl Midbass. The bass is strong up high and then you can feel it go lower into a shutter effect! It also starts with the shutter and goes louder into the 20-40hz range, excellent!

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.......The bass is strong up high and then you can feel it go lower into a shutter effect! It also starts with the shutter and goes louder into the 20-40hz range, excellent!

Nice.....

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Nice.....

Yeah, one example was when the King shot the bow at the titans to release them, the next scene showed Thesius waking up. During that scene the sound is just very low with a blurred vision and faint yelling in the back ground. Not much going on but the room felt like it was underwater and there was that shutter effect(slight shake with no sound where you just feel something). Then the scene kept getting louder as Thesius cleared his head and you can feel the bass getting more audible and louder. Very cool. This is where I thank Bosso because without sealed subs, lots of power, and boost down low, some of that will be missed completely. Most will get the bass but not that underwater sensation and shutter effect which is subtle. It really sticks out here because there is hardly any sound but that and it usually happens with big spl's within the 20-40hz range which can be covered up. I watch that scene for the first time and thought to myself, that has to be a ULF scene.

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I might go 3.5 for Hellboy 1, but that is it and I certainly would not argue against a 3 either, but that is just me. Hellboy 2..........5 star in my book. Watch Hellboy 1 and Hellboy 2 back to back which will put Hellboy 1 LFE into perspective. I did this just a few months ago and was surprised how Hellboy 1 seems a bit limp in quite a few places these days to my ears. Its funny how this happens though because when I first heard this PCM track when it first hit blu, I probably would have rated it a 4.5-5. Not sure what has happened between now and then, but 3-3.5 sounds about right to me in light of today's competition. Throw on Immortals, Battle LA, Tron Legacy, TIH, Cloverfield, Hellboy 2, etc.......does Hellboy still seem like a 4.5-5 star?

Immortals was awesome! Great LFE fix I almost watched it again, but ended up getting side tracked last night.

Sorry man! I missed your question on the graphs somehow. Someone here can explain it better than me, but basically like MKtheater said, those graphs mean there is lots of LFE (at least in those particular scenes, but we know this movie is loaded with it off/on throughout), it is loud and it has not been filtered which are all good things

What does TIH stand for?
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What does TIH stand for?

Hi Mpray1983, TIH = The Incredible Hulk
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Off topic but dusted off my copy of Need foe Speed: Hot Pursuit.... great balanced LFE but wait till you use the EMP blast :-)

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...and to continue somewhat off topic, I was watching 20/20 last night and in the second story, they were reincarnating the story they were talking about and out of nowhere, everything started rattling, my wife came running downstairs...what the H-E, double hockey sticks was that? I have no way to measure how deep the LFE was but I'd say it was as good as a some of the movies talked about here.

Grant you, my subs are nothing like you guys subs, but still....
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Have you guys noticed that some of the demo blurays being shared here don't really contain many scenes that have major LFE? Most of the scenes (aside from the two obvious clips), are just "okay". We need a true LFE demo.

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The Day After Tomorrow out of the Walmart $8 Blu-Ray bin today. Will be running it through the tapped horns the day after today to see what it's like.

I just finished watching The Day After Tomorrow and there is some scattered LFE, mostly at the beginning, but there is not as much of it present as I expected there to be. Overall, the sound track is pretty good, though.

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Hi Mpray1983, TIH = The Incredible Hulk

Don't I feel dumb...thanks
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Have you guys noticed that some of the demo blurays being shared here don't really contain many scenes that have major LFE? Most of the scenes (aside from the two obvious clips), are just "okay". We need a true LFE demo.

Scuba Steve 2.0 has like 15 clips that are all great. What disks are you talking about? Even the surround section on 2.0 had some good bass tracks also like transformers Optimus flip.
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Just finished up Immortals.

Incredible amount of LFE. More rumble than slam throughout, but definitive use of ULF to accentuate nearly all hits, especially when the gods deal them out. But there is more than just 'some' clipping, at least to my ears. I ran it at my 'reference' (-10dB), where I know I run cleanly and well within 5% THD throughout, and some scenes were just painful. Not so good. Clipped more often than Tron:Legacy. Even though lots of the scenes were tremendous, the more than few that appeared to clip left a bad taste in my mouth. I understand that total sonic power is limited on a mixing stage, but don't just push the knobs to '11' to get the point across....put a quiet portion ahead, or mix with more dynamic range. A good example of using dynamic range is the film Gran Torino. Most of it is dialogue, but the gunshots that ring out scare the bejeezus out of you. If everything is loud, the only way to make it 'sound' louder is distortion....

Perfect example are the Pawn shop gunshots in 'Drive'. Great use of dynamic range. This film could stand to learn a thing or two from it.....

Enjoyable, but not good enough for demo material in my opinion, unless scenes are chosen very wisely.

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Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol was an entertaining film. The plot was a little flimsy, but decent overall, with some pretty lush settings.

The LFE on the BR's TrueHD track was also decent in some cases. There are three or four scenes in particular that are pretty fun. One REALLY took me by surprise. It actually got my heart racing. Another five or six times, I felt my forehead vibrating strangely. Nothing else really stood out for me, even playing it about 10db hotter than normal. I'd have to watch it again to really be super definitive, but perhaps a 3-3.5 is my vote.
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War horse had the best use of LFE that I've heard yet for thundering horses. The war scenes had some shocking LFE too. Probably only a 3.5 or 4.0 in the contact of this thread, but I enjoyed my subs with it just the same.

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I saw War Horse last night - excellent LFE but not too many scenes that required it. I'd say 4 stars.
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Getting ready for Immortals in a few minutes. I hope my subs survive this....

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Getting ready for Immortals in a few minutes. I hope my subs survive this....

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I saw War Horse last night - excellent LFE but not too many scenes that required it. I'd say 4 stars.

I purchased this a few days ago and hope to view it within the next day or two.

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...and your house!

Well, my subs did survive (dual klipsch RW-12Ds up front and dual PL-200s in the rear). I have a 1/2 bathroom in the back of my theater. On several scenes during the movie there was a rattle coming from the bathroom. The medicine cabinet above the sink is now loose. I really heard it on the tidal wave scene and the fire whip scene. The whip circled thru the surround channels violently and struck the god then knocked him thru the wall !!! It made me get up and see what came loose in the bathroom !!! IMO most of the bass was over done and not very detailed. Dark of the Moon still stands as the best audio experience I had in my theater.

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Well, my subs did survive (dual klipsch RW-12Ds up front and dual PL-200s in the rear). I have a 1/2 bathroom in the back of my theater. On several scenes during the movie there was a rattle coming from the bathroom. The medicine cabinet above the sink is now loose. I really heard it on the tidal wave scene and the fire whip scene. The whip circled thru the surround channels violently and struck the god then knocked him thru the wall !!! It made me get up and see what came loose in the bathroom !!! IMO most of the bass was over done and not very detailed. Dark of the Moon still stands as the best audio experience I had in my theater.

I watched Dark of the Moon that last night and the sound and LFE was insane!
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I saw War Horse last night - excellent LFE but not too many scenes that required it. I'd say 4 stars.

I concur

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