Originally Posted by bossobass
I just wanted to say for the record:
Words like "masses" and "vast majority" are what usually get me fired up to post here these days.
Does anyone actually think masses and vast majorities visit this thread?
Secondly, and I tried to touch on this subject several times to no avail, but "ivory tower"? Is that serious?
Please, if the subject interests you, visit the DIY forum and use the search function. Healthnut, Robert Charles, notnyt, MKTheater, IB (dozens if not hundreds of those) and many many more folks have built systems that dwarf mine and who have spent multiples more $$. Then there's the ultra high end forums, the Thigpen Rotary Woofer clientele, the Keith Yates clientele and then there's thousands of folks who don't post on line.
That's just how it is, jchong.
This thread is the Master List of Movies With Bass thread with Spectrograms. All of the screen shots are of direct-inject graphs, so they'll all show the content to 3 Hz, or lower, depending on the signal chain roll off of the hardware and connection scheme.
I don't know what the 'vast majority' is or where the 'masses' hang out and post, but I'm pretty darned sure they don't bother with subwoofers, much less visit this thread.
I couldn't agree more. When I see comments like that, in this environment, it is perplexing. We're examining the minutia of the spectral characteristics of LFE/RB in motion picture releases on BluRay/DVD. We're certainly not the anywhere near the masses.
Bosso's subwoofer system is relatively modest when compared to many systems that contributors share here at AVS, and elsewhere all over the web. It's the attention to detail, the due diligence in assuring path the signal takes is free from the deleterious effects of accumulative high pass filtration that's an inherent element of electronics design. His system is visually un-obtrusive, and physically takes very little floorspace.
He doesn't need me or anyone to defend him, his contributions here at AVS have advanced the state of the art like few others. This has been explored, that's why he recoils at attempts to diminish the importance of full bandwidth LFE reproduction. Whatever film it is, experiencing it with a system that's less capable in the bottom octaves reduces the intended effect,...no getting around it.
Regardless if the sensation is aural, physical, or most likely a blend of the two, if the filmmakers want a floor rippling, wall pulsing, room pressurization flutter effect, then anything less is just that,....less.
I also read comments regarding how financially un-attainable this is, everyone's finances differ, however one of the finest contributors and avid ULF explorer, the late Jordan (aka Krypto), was a contributor of very modest finances. And he managed in solid room response to 5-7 hz with the ubiquitous combo of Fi/EP4K, @ less than approx $1500. He asked questions and got creative. Point being, these positions citing excessive expense for the masses, too much floorspace, etc, really don't apply in my opinion.
There's much more to say... I'll stop here.
Looking forward to UA,... re-watched Man On Fire
last evening,..... damn what a treat that is. Enjoyable, strong LF/ULF, not over the top usage,...just what I prefer.