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Old 07-24-2012, 07:24 AM
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I can't wait to watch it again with some real subs to see what I am missing out on...
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You will be amazed by the sound quality of this movie, specially the whole scene with the super dragon.........be ready to shake your whole house as soon you have your new subs in place and properly calibrated with you setup (SMS-1 did wonders with my Ultras too).
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You will be amazed by the sound quality of this movie, specially the whole scene with the super dragon.........be ready to shake your whole house as soon you have your new subs in place and properly calibrated with you setup (SMS-1 did wonders with my Ultras too).

Cr, I was just looking at your gallery. What kind of mains are those? I'm researching some speakers for a friend and I'm tying to get some options together for him. They look good, but would you recommend them? You can PM me if you don't want to air it out on this thread.

BTW, I bet your SVS Ultras sound great! I am going a slightly different route with sealed LMS's. I just hope they will finally satisfy my seemingly neverending LFEitch...
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Cr, I was just looking at your gallery. What kind of mains are those? I'm researching some speakers for a friend and I'm tying to get some options together for him. They look good, but would you recommend them? You can PM me if you don't want to air it out on this thread.
BTW, I bet your SVS Ultras sound great! I am going a slightly different route with sealed LMS's. I just hope they will finally satisfy my seemingly neverending LFEitch...

Nevermind. Upon further investigation, my assumption of those being the RTiA9's was correct!

Man, they look killer, I wonder how they compare to the Klipsch RF-7II's. I'm going to take that question to the Klipsch thread.

In the meantime! I'm going to go out and buy WOTW today.
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In the meantime! I'm going to go out and buy WOTW today.

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Cr, I was just looking at your gallery. What kind of mains are those? I'm researching some speakers for a friend and I'm tying to get some options together for him. They look good, but would you recommend them? You can PM me if you don't want to air it out on this thread.
BTW, I bet your SVS Ultras sound great! I am going a slightly different route with sealed LMS's. I just hope they will finally satisfy my seemingly neverending LFEitch...

The fronts are Polk Audio RTi A9s. I owned before the Polk Audio RTi A7s, but I finally upgraded to these speakers (top of the line of the series) and I'm really happy with these speakers. smile.gif

The A9s have a really solid bass (for movies and music), but for sure they can't compete against the two SVS PB13-Ultras. After adding the Ultras, my HT raised to a whole new level. In my case ported was the best option due to the size of my room (+4000 cf), but if you are going with dual subs I think you will be fine. I use a SMS-1 to EQ them and here is a pic of the system response at my room:



Where is your friend located? As you noticed in my gallery, my fronts are black and the subs are cherry. So, I decided to pull the trigger and purchased a second pair of RTi A9s but this time on cherry. So, the blacks will be soon up for sale. Touch base with your friend and let me know if he is interested.

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So, upon watching Wrath of The Titans I began to hear the most God awful sound known to man (no, not the script)... It sounded as if a speaker had blown, or was hyper extending - that crackley fart sound, you know? Upon investigation it turned out to be that there was SO MUCH BASS coming from my in-credenza center channel (center channel!) that the expelled AIR from the ports was blowing so hard on the thinner back board of the center channel's cubby hole that it was vibrating it enough to create this audible atrocity. I have literally never had this happen in any other film. The good news is that the center channel managed to handle it with out any other issues. Time to reinforce the credenza!tongue.gif
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I'm going to go out and buy WOTW today.

I finally re-watched the COMPLETE flick the other night. EPIC!!!! biggrin.gif
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Same here! I have every movie in the 5 star category and have listened to them all many times. The audio track on Rambo (2008) Extended Cut is truly awesome. I didn't do any metered measurements, but I'd say that it belongs in the 4.5 stars category the way it was working over my speakers and subs. Very impressive, indeed, and well worth checking out! cool.gif

So why is this flick not listed anywhere on The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts?

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^^^^

It is listed, it just was never given a star rating.

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Just watched HTTYD last night in Bluray on my new PJ. It will be the movie I play to show off the visual competency of my setup.
I'll report back when I have the LMS Ultra's in place. This movie put my Definitive Technology Supercube Reference in a bind. I had it in safe mode several times and finally just had to turn the SMS-1 way down. As to be expected given I boosted the low end in an attempt to compensate for the inflated specs and the sub's realistic roll off @ around 20Hz.
Super fun movie though! I can't wait to watch it again with some real subs to see what I am missing out on...
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Love this release,.... the intricacies of the soundtrack are really something. From the deepest of deep, to all the minutia,...wonderful stuff.

Pure genius sound design.


If you enjoy the visuals, with some real subwoofage, it should cover you on both fronts. Yep, you bet your sweet bippy.

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Just watched HTTYD last night in Bluray on my new PJ. It will be the movie I play to show off the visual competency of my setup.
I'll report back when I have the LMS Ultra's in place. This movie put my Definitive Technology Supercube Reference in a bind. I had it in safe mode several times and finally just had to turn the SMS-1 way down. As to be expected given I boosted the low end in an attempt to compensate for the inflated specs and the sub's realistic roll off @ around 20Hz.
Super fun movie though! I can't wait to watch it again with some real subs to see what I am missing out on...
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Love this release,.... the intricacies of the soundtrack are really something. From the deepest of deep, to all the minutia,...wonderful stuff.
Pure genius sound design.
If you enjoy the visuals, with some real subwoofage, it should cover you on both fronts. Yep, you bet your sweet bippy.


Do you guys have some kind of special AVS hand book that tells you what movie your referring to? HTTYD is all greek to me. confused.gif



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Do you guys have some kind of special AVS hand book that tells you what movie your referring to? HTTYD is all greek to me. confused.gif
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It is just one of the many, many movie acronyms that get thrown around here HTTYD is: How to Train Your Dragon.
TKDR: The Dark Night Rises
TKD: The Dark Night
And so on, and so on.

You get used to the big names quickly enough. There is the oddball one that throws me off from time to time still.
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Just watch Iron Man 2 and Sky Captain. Both great bass flicks. Sky Captain can stay at 5/5, but I would even bump up Iron Man 2 to 5/5. It had a lot of bass. Not as low as Sky Captain but more bass.

Next on my list is Super 8 and Rambo.

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It is just one of the many, many movie acronyms that get thrown around here HTTYD is: How to Train Your Dragon.
TKDR: The Dark Night Rises
TKD: The Dark Night
And so on, and so on.
You get used to the big names quickly enough. There is the oddball one that throws me off from time to time still.
And let's not forget 2 of the most popular ones:

WOTW: War Of The Worlds
FOTP: Flight Of The Phoenix
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Do you guys have some kind of special AVS hand book that tells you what movie your referring to? HTTYD is all greek to me. confused.gif
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Too funny! I had the same issue when I started following this thread! I figured them out quick (as Edogg mentioned). If you just google them most pop up in your browser.

The one that threw me off a few weeks back was when people were mentioning the plane crash scene in FOTP. That's your homework assignment...
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I've been meaning to post this for a while, but short of time. But, this seems the perfect time, so:

My favorite acronym is LOTR FOTR. This one took me the longest to figure out (of course, it was 10 years ago), and, the real subject of this post is that the 4 disc DVD set, special edition, extended edition, with appendices and with DD EX and DTS-ES options is my all-time, favorite soundtrack, all things considered, overall.

The Balrog sequence has been one of my favorite demos for a decade, back when I was just getting into the sealed L/T subs. I had no idea what the content was, but it was sure a crowd pleaser as a demo, and still is today:

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And later, when Frodo puts the ring on and sees the eye:

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There's the giant octopus, Fool of a Took, the cave troll, damaged staircase, staring into the water, avalanche and many more great bass scenes, but as an additional bonus, this soundtrack has, by far an away, the most spectacular CC vocal track of all time.

I also wanted to mention, for anyone who's thought about or tried using SL to make their own graphs, that I've put the SpecLab download on one of my pages and the download includes all of my settings that you can simply upload into SpecLab and have the settings I currently use, ready to graph, no learning curve, no fuss, no muss.

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Under 'Making your own graphs with Spectrumlab". There are caveats like SL doesn't play nice with Vista, it won't run on a 64 bit machine and there are notes with illustrations to show the procedure for loading my settings, etc.

I know it's time consuming to cap scenes, upload them to a host and post them here and hats off to Dr. Pain, lfe man and everyone who has done it in the past like Kweezer, Scott, et al. They got me interested in spectrographs and it opened a whole new world to me. But, it's time for the next-gen to grab the torch. The graphs are dwindling in this thread. Just thought I'd mention it...
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I always use the Balrog scene as a demo. I love that scene and not just for bass.

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Bosso, you mentioned specifically the lord of the rings dvd's being impressive, are the blu-rays any less impressive? I bought the extended dvd's when they came out and have watched them many times and I keep meaning to get the extended blu-rays but haven't gotten around to it yet.

Years ago before we had kids the wife and I watched all 3 extended movies back to back to back. It was a below 0 December day so we hunkered down and did the marathon. That was on my old 65 inch RPTV and a svs cylinder sub and I was loving it. I wish I could do that now on the 158 inch and dual submersives. Ain't gonna happen until the kids get a lot older.
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Dude! Dave....I swear we have the most similar favorite scenes for demos and stuff. And I mean, right down to the exact scene. redface.gif Most people mention the other two for bass. For me, it's always FOTR. I even made some of the bass charts in the archives on page one.

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Bosso/Scott,

Any scuttlebutt on whether LOTR BDs are bassically neutered compared to the DVDs?

The DVDs are powerful. I may have to rewatch since last I saw them I didn't have the same freq response at each main seat.....

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Dude! Dave....I swear we have the most similar favorite scenes for demos and stuff. And I mean, right down to the exact scene. redface.gif Most people mention the other two for bass. For me, it's always FOTR. I even made some of the bass charts in the archives on page one.
And hell yeah, new website! smile.gif


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Plenty of ULF in this one. When the cave troll whips the chain at bow and arrow guy and the chains hit the walls around him... all the way down to below 3 Hz.


Carp & Max: I've never viewed/heard the BR versions. The 12 disc EE box set is all I'm ever going to be interested in for this series. I'm sure the picture is worth the BR price of admission, but there's something about the EE set for me.

And, seriously, listen to Gandolf's (and the bad-guy white haired dude as well) voice throughout and especially when in the mines. Superb mic/mic pre used, no Q. Great mix as well. Just sounds the way I wish every soundtrack could do vocals. Sadly, not. They're all over the map and usually pretty crappy. FOTR is simply superb.

I guess we won't know about content down low unless someone with the BR runs graphs smile.gif
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Too funny! I had the same issue when I started following this thread! I figured them out quick (as Edogg mentioned). If you just google them most pop up in your browser.
The one that threw me off a few weeks back was when people were mentioning the plane crash scene in FOTP. That's your homework assignment...


I'm very familiar with Flight Of the Phoenix. Been discussed for a few years here. LOTR and WOTW are abbreviations I'm also familiar with. But some of the latest titles leave me guessing, since I don't spend as much time on this forum like I use to. Thanks.



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Here is my short list for Blu Ray demos:

On a ten feet wide screen with B&W 800Diamonds driven by Classé CA-M600 and SSP-800 Sound is my pleasure smile.gif

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- Keeping Score: Berlioz's Symphonie Fantastique

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I guess we won't know about content down low unless someone with the BR runs graphs smile.gif
I have the BR's, I'll put looking at them in SpecLab at the top of my list, I had no idea the DVD's had such aggressive sub 10Hz content. I really need to measure my signal chain first though, and to do either of those things I have to be home instead of on the road. For signal chain I can run the MKV off the PC to an external soundcard to the AVR and then the sub out on the AVR back to the external soundcard. The soundcard is very flat to very low based on a loopback test I've done on it but I don't know anything about what the AVR does yet. Is the best way to check that just to do a frequency sweep in REW with the above mentioned connections? What kind of numbers have people seen for AVR roll-off?
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I always use the Balrog scene as a demo. I love that scene and not just for bass.


Same here. This was one of my first ever demo scenes for HT when the disc first came out years ago and I still love to use it at times. I actually start it at the cave troll part and let it play up until Gandalf falls.......awesome demo stuff!

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Plenty of ULF in this one. When the cave troll whips the chain at bow and arrow guy and the chains hit the walls around him... all the way down to below 3 Hz.
Carp & Max: I've never viewed/heard the BR versions. The 12 disc EE box set is all I'm ever going to be interested in for this series. I'm sure the picture is worth the BR price of admission, but there's something about the EE set for me.
And, seriously, listen to Gandolf's (and the bad-guy white haired dude as well) voice throughout and especially when in the mines. Superb mic/mic pre used, no Q. Great mix as well. Just sounds the way I wish every soundtrack could do vocals. Sadly, not. They're all over the map and usually pretty crappy. FOTR is simply superb.
I guess we won't know about content down low unless someone with the BR runs graphs smile.gif

What part of the movie is this scene? I would like to run this thru my subs to see how they handle it.

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Bosso/Scott,
Any scuttlebutt on whether LOTR BDs are bassically neutered compared to the DVDs?
The DVDs are powerful. I may have to rewatch since last I saw them I didn't have the same freq response at each main seat.....
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Good question. I'll have to look into by watching it again. I haven't spun up the BD version as much as I have the dvd version. I don't have the ability to graphically monitor BD's yet either but I'll look into it.

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What part of the movie is this scene? I would like to run this thru my subs to see how they handle it.

Which part? Most of what was just mentioned was during the middle of the movie while they are in the mine.

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Old 07-25-2012, 11:08 PM
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Hey, Bosso. I spec'd the intro video from your new webpage. smile.gif

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Reminds me of the Ironhide flip....

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