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Agree!

Now I know what to use to test for bass on movies!

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You should add Transformers 2 into the 4.5 star bass thread and lower M&C to the 4 star. I thought Transformers 2 was better for bass, especially when comparing blurays.

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^I think there needs to be a formula used to determine a movie's bass rating since this can be very subjective and depend on what a person's system can actually do. At least with a formula, you could get a better and more consistent rating for movies.

What that formula is I don't know, but it seems like it could be based on a point scale. Maybe determined by some of the following attributes such as; quantity of bass, impact (how deep), intensity (long or short sustained scenes), bass control (is it bloated or very defined) etc... Not sure if this is the best starting point but there has to be some type of method we could use to better determine a movie's "Bass Rating" other than "I think it should be...".
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^ I agree.

Listening can be off from one person to another.

Another note, how good are tracks on older movies? Any one stand out? Wondering how the new star wars set will be when it comes out. Lucas better have remastered the audio!!

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I judge a movie's bass on extension, spl, quantity, and quality. One note high levels of bass sucks unless it is at 10hz and under!!!! My system plays to 5hz at reference levels and it is just my opinion. M&C for instance had one scene that was great but not on the bluray.

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My system plays to 5hz at reference levels and it is just my opinion.

Therein lies the problem with coming up with a formula - everybody's systems and opinions are different.

I'd say the general consensus should probably be what each movie ends up getting. If five guys give, say, the Incredibles four stars and I say it deserves five; the movie should then get four stars
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I think the simplest would be to judge the bass for performance down to say 20hz, which most people would be able to play. Then if a movie does have deeper bass, we can make note of that and maybe the timestamp. There's no point rating down to 5hz until the bulk of people on here can play it; since CEA testing is down to 20hz, wouldn't that make the most sense?
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Tron, Terminator Salvation, Revenge of the Fallen, and HTTYD are my favorites by far.
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Star Trek 2009 was a fun bass movie
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I haven't seen many of these movies, but I would rank The Incredibles higher than four stars. It doesn't have incessant bass or consistently tread the depths, but what was present was very articulate and incredibly punchy. The LFE track stood out to me as the most impressive feature of the Blu-Ray, significantly improved upon relative to the DVD release.

The best I've ever seen is Tron: Legacy. I believe the movie to be pretty mediocre, but I've watched it twice all the way through because the LFE is so ridiculously engrossing - the overall sound design sets a benchmark for action/sci-fi films as far as I'm concerned.
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Picked up Batman: Under the Red Hood, was very surprised about the bass in this "movie".
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NOT a movie, but, has anybody heard "The Kids Are Ready To Die" by The Airborne Toxic Event on their new album "All At Once"? About 3/4 of the way into the song it has some just wicked notes.

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I think the simplest would be to judge the bass for performance down to say 20hz, which most people would be able to play. Then if a movie does have deeper bass, we can make note of that and maybe the timestamp. There's no point rating down to 5hz until the bulk of people on here can play it; since CEA testing is down to 20hz, wouldn't that make the most sense?

Well, I would disagree. The whole point of going lower is to get everything on the disc. When a movies has a ton of under 20hz bass at loud levels then it makes it rated higher than a movie without it. Just think, most of the 5 star movies go to 5hz or less. The best of the best bass movies go to 3-5hz very loud, WOTW, Cloverfield, Tron, etc.... There is a reason they are 5 stars, not just for the 20hz and above.

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You should add Transformers 2 into the 4.5 star bass thread and lower M&C to the 4 star. I thought Transformers 2 was better for bass, especially when comparing blurays.

M&C have epic bass in opening battle scene(in dvd), but not much after that...yeah maybe its 4 star bass movie after all.

I though TF2 pretty much sucked in some scenes(yeah movie too)... especially that opening bridge crash, not much bass what i remember. I think i need more votes for that because TF1 is four star and have lower bass than TF2.

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Therein lies the problem with coming up with a formula - everybody's systems and opinions are different.

I'd say the general consensus should probably be what each movie ends up getting. If five guys give, say, the Incredibles four stars and I say it deserves five; the movie should then get four stars

Yup, something like that.

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Star Trek 2009 was a fun bass movie

It sure was, maybe even 5 star bass movie.
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As for how were gonna vote.

I think in the old thread it was based upon how many agreed a movie had good bass. If more than 5 people say tron legacy bass in reference, like was said in the old thread, then yes, tron legacy gets 5 stars for reference and a bass movie of the week/month title. Unless a movie comes out the following week or same month that has better bass then the title will just be "bass movie of the week".

EDIT- I see Oklahoma Wolf shares my thinking.

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As for how were gonna vote.

I think in the old thread it was based upon how many agreed a movie had good bass. If more than 5 people say tron legacy bass in reference, like was said in the old thread, then yes, tron legacy gets 5 stars for reference and a bass movie of the week/month title. Unless a movie comes out the following week or same month that has better bass then the title will just be "bass movie of the week".

EDIT- I see Oklahoma Wolf shares my thinking.

I agree with you. The waterfall charts confirm what we are hearing as well.

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Another bad movie with GREAT bass - Avatar, the last airbender. Randy Thom special.

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Resident Evil: Afterlife has extreme bass, I think it should be 5 stars.
Here's some waterfalls for it:

Alice battles security forces:


Alice shockwaves security forces:


The Alices assault Umbrella's central room:


Wesker escapes:



Alice battles zombies on the roof and explodes elevator cable:


Alice enters Arcadia:


Wesker battles Chris and Claire:
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New thread!!!!!!!!!!! Expect me to start posting some new graphs
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Black Swan DTS Core
Not very much bass but there is a few scenes worth checking out.


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The lfe was awesome in that flick! I would say 5 star worthy!

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I think the simplest would be to judge the bass for performance down to say 20hz, which most people would be able to play. Then if a movie does have deeper bass, we can make note of that and maybe the timestamp. There's no point rating down to 5hz until the bulk of people on here can play it; since CEA testing is down to 20hz, wouldn't that make the most sense?
IMO, this would be a big mistake. The release should be judged for it's content, not one's ability to resolve that content. It's there for a reason; realistic immersion and suspension of dis-belief.

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Black Swan DTS Core
Not very much bass but there is a few scenes worth checking out.


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Scott Pilgrim coming up next...
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Scott Pilgrim vs. the World AC3
Definitely a 5 star movie, so much content and most of it is in the 20-40hz range.


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How about unstoppable (2010) (I watched it last night). I know it doesn't have an insane amount of bass like Tron or WOTW, but it does mak it feel like a train is coming right through your livingroom

I've seen some waterfall graphs for it - and I know it isn't heavy below 20 Hz - but how about a 3.5 star verdict?

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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 AC3
Lots of content around 25-50hz. I would give this movie 3 stars.

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