Originally Posted by nube
It seems the pattern is that if a movie's loud from 30-80Hz, Ralph likes it. That's fine.
A lot of people here use a slightly different methodology. I don't really see any analysis in Ralph's reviews, other than that pattern.
So, for anyone to say something to the effect of, "If Ralph gave it 5 stars for bass, you know it's gotta be good," is a little over the top. Why? Because we now have an objective way to compare the bass in movies, thanks to maxmercy! Based on those early graphs of the movie, I suspect MoS will end up being a 3.5-4 star bass movie by the data-bass.com ratings system.
I get it..........
As I said, Ralph comes at these reviews from a much different perspective than the objective hard core lets focus on one single aspect of the track (bass) ULF bass heads and I am not saying that is good, bad, whatever.........it is what it is. Ralph is obviously not considering data-bass in his reviews which is OK as well since he is simply giving a subjective opinion with his equip, ears, etc..........and he speaks more for the common man as the vast majority of people don't focus anywhere near what we do on the low end (which is OK). In light of that, if you don't like his review methodology, don't read his reviews and if you have a concern or issue with him or his reviews like the poster I responded to, at least have the balls to do it to him in his thread and not behind his back, and do it respectfully which is the only way there will be any hope of a constructive outcome.
Me? I am a big fan of data-bass and I am also a big fan of Ralph and his reviews and neither is perfect, but they both serve a very valuable purpose. Data-bass is a fantastic objective resource and I have given kudos to what has been done there many times, but it's still not perfect. A track like Inception for example has an objective 4.5 star rating, but personally I find that track one of the most awkward and flat out unpleasing bass/LFE experiences on blu ray. I don't enjoy it even though it hits high marks objectively and it would NEVER come close to being "demo" material for me and subjectively for me it is nowhere CLOSE to a 4.5 star overall LFE experience. Another one is Pulse at a 4.75 which has one big bass scene (server room) and again, to me it is not the most pleasing bass experience. It's loud, supports the film well and so on, but it certainly would not make my personal demo list as I simply just don't find it that pleasing in light of the competition..............point of all this being, no grading scale is perfect whether it be db, Ralph's, etc......
I will end my rant, but if you are going to come down as hard as the poster I responded to did on one of our own well respected AVS guys, at least do it in their thread and in a respectful tone. I strongly feel what the poster did who I responded to was classless, cheap and flat out lame. Ralph is a solid, classy guy and he doesn't deserve that kind of treatment. If you feel so strongly opposed to his review process, don't read his work, but bashing it behind his back serves absolutely zero purpose.