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Yes......XT32'd but am not running the OSs hot at all. Then I've used Omni Mic to measure total response and have nice response below 20.

Hmmm, could be a difference the way it sounds on a horn loaded sub vs sealed.

I know ported subs don't sound great to me on ULF's. Haven't heard a horn sub though!. Maybe someone on here could chime in with some more insight.
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Just rented Cloud Atlas on BD from Redbox. Any graphs up for it?

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I watched it a couple of nights ago. It's kind of like this: G44

On lousy days I put something like OHF on and I'm grinning ear to ear. biggrin.gif Those vibrations seem to have a soothing effect.
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OFH I'm not sure, but OHF is Olympus Has Fallen....tongue.gif
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good,I have heard in any movie. Also you do need to add Percy Jackson and the Olympians to the 5 star list. Other than that it is a very good list.thanks for your sharing.

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Yes......XT32'd but am not running the OSs hot at all. Then I've used Omni Mic to measure total response and have nice response below 20.

Not running the OS hot at all? No house curve? Not even the "THX" recommended +10db LFE bump?

This is your OS:



This is your OS calibrated flat:
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Not running the OS hot at all? No house curve? Not even the "THX" recommended +10db LFE bump?

This is your OS:



This is your OS calibrated flat:


Haha. No I haven't touched anything after running Audyssey. I could bump up the sub trims 2-3 each...just haven't felt the need to.......yet. wink.gif

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Haha. No I haven't touched anything after running Audyssey. I could bump up the sub trims 2-3 each...just haven't felt the need to.......yet. wink.gif
after just getting xt32 and audyssey cal. I noticed with REW i needed to bump up the sub 4db. Sounds awesome!!
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after just getting xt32 and audyssey cal. I noticed with REW i needed to bump up the sub 4db. Sounds awesome!!

I leave Dynamic EQ on right now, but for those w/ Audyssey and running their subs hot, do you still leave Dynamic EQ on for when listening below ref, or do you turn it off full time?

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I leave Dynamic EQ on right now, but for those w/ Audyssey and running their subs hot, do you still leave Dynamic EQ on for when listening below ref, or do you turn it off full time?

My understanding on Dynamic EQ is that it will boost bass when you are listening at low volume, but once you start cranking the volume up, D EQ is not actually engaged.

In my case, I originally set D EQ off and I was running the subs hot. Later, I decided to turn D EQ on and let the subs at the levels calculated by Audyssey.

As many thing is in Audio and Video, IMHO is just a matter of personal preferences. I'm happy with this result, but perhaps tomorrow I'll change my mind.........tongue.gif
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I leave Dynamic EQ on right now, but for those w/ Audyssey and running their subs hot, do you still leave Dynamic EQ on for when listening below ref, or do you turn it off full time?
I leave dynamic eq off and run +6 hot. Dynamic eq sounds awful in my room. The bass from the sub sounds very boomy and hollow at any volume, but worse when turned up.
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Same here. dynamic Eq off for me
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Same here. dynamic Eq off for me

That is Ok Brian...........nobody is perfect!

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I thought most receivers automatically applied the +10db LFE bump regardless of audyssey.
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I did experiment running dynamic eq off in my room and the bass did sound "cleaner" but it lost the output frown.gif I keep dyn eq on at ref level 5db.

Guess it's time for new subs biggrin.gif

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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I leave Dynamic EQ on right now, but for those w/ Audyssey and running their subs hot, do you still leave Dynamic EQ on for when listening below ref, or do you turn it off full time?

When my general listening volume was around -15db, I kept Dynamic EQ on while running my subs hot.  Once I started to listen at reference volume, I turned it off because I didn't need it anymore.  I think the higher the master volume is set, the less Dynamic EQ has to alter the signal. 

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What's OFH?

Roger,

I created a list of many common bass movie acronyms for that very question - it's linked in my signature. If you have signatures turned off, you can find it at this link:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1333462/the-new-master-list-of-bass-in-movies-with-frequency-charts/9780#post_23651174

I try to keep it updated with the most common bass movie acronyms I see, but if you have suggestions, I'll consider adding them. smile.gif
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Roger,

I created a list of many common bass movie acronyms for that very question - it's linked in my signature.
You've topped my AVS Hero of the Day list! Thank you for resolving OHF, and for saving me from more headscratching in future. smile.gif
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That is Ok Brian...........nobody is perfect!

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Ha! I just realized w my new denon that it had dynamic eq in and it sounds fantastic!! So i guess i am perfect lmao!!

Xt32 is amazing!
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I leave dynamic eq off and run +6 hot. Dynamic eq sounds awful in my room. The bass from the sub sounds very boomy and hollow at any volume, but worse when turned up.
Yep, same here, Dynamic EQ off and I am running +7
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Help decide tonights movie rewatch...

OHF OR dredd?
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Xt32 is amazing!
and you came from XT? Can you elaborate 'amazing'? What is the things you notice? Thanks.
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and you came from XT? Can you elaborate 'amazing'? What is the things you notice? Thanks.

Yes came from XT. Super flat response.

And ot really tamed any reflections i had. Much crisper details. Zero musdyness

Just sounds like a higher end sound
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^^are you getting all of that going from XT to XT32? Are you using a miniDSP or similar on top of XT32? Do you notice your speakers sound better too? Between Dredd and OHF, try OHF first.
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Help decide tonights movie rewatch...

OHF OR dredd?

I vote Dredd. Neither are Oscar winners, but Dredd is the better movie. Barely.
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Not running the OS hot at all? No house curve? Not even the "THX" recommended +10db LFE bump?

I didn't know they recommended +10? I run my dual submersives +3 and scenes like the super lycan or the Hulk final fight are RIDICULOUS! I couldn't imagine +10 though, that would be way too much and way overbalanced after Audyssey. I will say I have to turn up after Audyssey even with my house curve and dynamic EQ on. Movies +3 and music is +6-9...

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after just getting xt32 and audyssey cal. I noticed with REW i needed to bump up the sub 4db. Sounds awesome!!

Dynamic EQ has ZERO effect at reference. It is a sliding scale per volume. Imagine a flat line horizontally, then imagine a line creating an acute triangle that at reference is flat but the farther it goes back to the left it drops. That is dynamic EQ. I couldn't imagine not using it.

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When my general listening volume was around -15db, I kept Dynamic EQ on while running my subs hot.  Once I started to listen at reference volume, I turned it off because I didn't need it anymore.  I think the higher the master volume is set, the less Dynamic EQ has to alter the signal. 

You could just leave it on because like I said no effect at reference. But if you want some quieter subtle music while you sit down and check emails or surf AVS and have it at -30 or whatever below you would want it.



I run dual submersives +3db hot, dynamic EQ on and a rising house curve to 30hz then flat on back to the singles...
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^^are you getting all of that going from XT to XT32? Are you using a miniDSP or similar on top of XT32? Do you notice your speakers sound better too? Between Dredd and OHF, try OHF first.

I use audyssey on top of minidsp. It teally takes the pEq of the dsp and runs with it

When i had xt it really messed up my FR

With xt32 everything just sounds much clearer from bass to mids to highs. Glad i made the upgrade. Worth every dime

Think ill rock some 3d dredd for tonights rewatch movie (we need more movies to be release smile.gif )
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I vote Dredd. Neither are Oscar winners, but Dredd is the better movie. Barely.

+1

Classroom scene.................nice!
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Not running the OS hot at all? No house curve? Not even the "THX" recommended +10db LFE bump?

I didn't know they recommended +10? I run my dual submersives +3 and scenes like the super lycan or the Hulk final fight are RIDICULOUS! I couldn't imagine +10 though, that would be way too much and way overbalanced after Audyssey. I will say I have to turn up after Audyssey even with my house curve and dynamic EQ on. Movies +3 and music is +6-9...

It's almost guaranteed that your AVR or pre/pro automatically adds the +10dB to the LFE channel if you're using bass redirection with a crossover frequency. That's why running +10dB hotter would be overkill for most people.

As for your frequency graph, it looks nice, but can you post one that just goes from 5Hz to your XO frequency, with no smoothing, so I can drool over it? wink.gif No need to remeasure to do that, FYI. You can just load the measurements in REW and resize the display to the frequencies you want.

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Totally +1 on the classroom scene, although I might have to +3 to the Washington Monument scene in OHF. wink.gif
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