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Remember, the extension rating is the -10dB point for bass content in the movie. It's the point at which that content is half as loud as the loudest segment, or even less (depending on how you rate dBs to perceived loudness).

A -10dB point of 21Hz may be better than what you've watched recently, but it's pretty mediocre in general. Although, I will grant you that it seems about average in comparison to most big-budget action films released in the last 10 years. wink.gif They seem to get shafted in the loudness wars.

I think this points to your individual preference more than anything. Maybe you really do like that 30Hz stuff and, if so, that's OK! smile.gif Like most people, you prolly enjoyed the bass execution in the Avengers, Thor, and the latest Star Trek, though they were all louder than Red 2. You have ported subs, right?

Yes I believe you are spot on. I actually do love the 30hz stuff, but its nice when some 15-20hz stuff comes along. Yea I have ported subs with 14-15hz extension. However I could of sworn there was a couple scenes in Red 2 that dug down where my couch just pulsated...30hz does not do that. Felt like some 20hz stuff. I also run my subs hot so fwiw.
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^^^ Hmm ! intresting .
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Elysium - 7.1 DTSMA
Have to say pretty disappointed in this soundtrack
Nothing stands out at all - very flat and no slam factor/crunch
Had decent extension but not very loud.
One of those tracks that just not very exciting
no dynamics -

What's going with Elysium? Some folks say its awesome some don't? It's as if there are multiple mixes???
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What level did you listen at and what kind of systems are you using?
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Not sure.
This is the audio on my disc:

Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2775 kbps / 16-bit
(DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
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What level did you listen at and what kind of systems are you using?

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Grrrrr redbox bluray version if red2 is lossy DD 5.1

I refused to watch it

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Not sure.
This is the audio on my disc:

Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 7.1 / 48 kHz / 2775 kbps / 16-bit
(DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Low bit rate and bit depth not good. Just like the Amazing Spider-Man...Boo!!!

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^^^ Hmm ! intresting .

I am wondering if there is different mixes?
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I watched the Pacific Rim last night not bad. Could've done better with a shot of Cloverfield bass. I heard there was a difference in sound between the 7.1 & 5.1 soundtracks. Is that true? I did notice the bit rate was higher on the 7.1.

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Grrrrr redbox bluray version if red2 is lossy DD 5.1

I refused to watch it
Bummer! Sounds just like the first one. Two different discs with the lossless version costing a few dollars more

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I am wondering if there is different mixes?

When's the official release for the U.S ?
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Here's mine overlaid with pretsam's:



You can see his has a lot more low end- it starts out spot on (with minor level differences) until 70Hz and then his low end separates.

I compared the graphs we both did of Getaway and they are identical.

wth718 is definitely on to something here:

To me this looks like a classic episode of "forgot the LFE channel". That's what I'm thinking when I look at the overlay.

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Elysium - 7.1 DTSMA
Have to say pretty disappointed in this soundtrack
Nothing stands out at all - very flat and no slam factor/crunch
Had decent extension but not very loud.
One of those tracks that just not very exciting
no dynamics -

Haven't heard it at home yet but .. from what I remember... there wasn't that much of a spectacular sound mix from the get go. I saw it twice in theaters. I liked the movie, the movie was pretty cool but I don't remember anything outstanding about the actual mix. We'll see when it comes out but I doubt this one will be the 'mix of the year'.


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Elysium - 7.1 DTSMA
Have to say pretty disappointed in this soundtrack
Nothing stands out at all - very flat and no slam factor/crunch
Had decent extension but not very loud.
One of those tracks that just not very exciting
no dynamics -

Also agree. Listened to the DTS track at -2db.

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I watched the Pacific Rim last night not bad. Could've done better with a shot of Cloverfield bass. I heard there was a difference in sound between the 7.1 & 5.1 soundtracks. Is that true? I did notice the bit rate was higher on the 7.1.

I watched it with my new fv15hps and they really punded. I have no way of meassuring but it sounded like a lot of 30hz ish stuff. Not much if any ulf. I thought the fight scened were a little slow.. I liked the battle scenes in say transformers much more. Definitely worth watching though and I really enjoyed the audio even though itbwad missing the ulf

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When's the official release for the U.S ?

Not sure...I really just got into watching movies over the last few months. Music was really the only thing I really turned up loud. Now I find cranking up movies to be awesome, but I still can not stand to watch them over and over like many do. I wish more movies contained ULF because of that fact. If I watch a movie 2 times it has to be really good.
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Also agree. Listened to the DTS track at -2db.

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Not sure...I really just got into watching movies over the last few months. Music was really the only thing I really turned up loud. Now I find cranking up movies to be awesome, but I still can not stand to watch them over and over like many do. I wish more movies contained ULF because of that fact. If I watch a movie 2 times it has to be really good.
I agree 100%, a movie has to be really good to even earn a place in my collection the rest I just rely on good old Netflix to store and house the not so collection worthy but may want to see again smile.gif
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Have u guys seen the conjuring? There is some seriouse bass around the 1:25min mark. If anyone has a graph of this PLEASE post it. Its the part where the little girl looks up the staircase and everything starts to go black. I was very impressed with the scene myself. It wasn't ultra low but I'm guessing it was around 25hz sweeping slam lol

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Watching The Conjuring right now all I can say is WOW! Should be on the 5 star list easily. Same actress from The Haunting. Is that a bass connection too? Lol!

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Be rdy around 1:25:00:)smile.gifsmile.gif

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'The Conjuring' is a great deal of fun. It doesn't plummet down low as some of the best, but dynamics exhibit excellent range and extension into ULF territory is palpable. It shakes walls and rattles doors on several occasions. The following graphs were taken from the Blu-ray at -20 from reference and it made for a really scary experience.

Keep in mind majority of the movie looks like this. It's not particularly powerful, but it's enough to create a very creepy vibe throughout with a light sensation in the air that's eerie.

00.04.50 - 00.04.58


00.30.45 - 00.30.55


This is the clap scene seen in the trailers and on the BD cover

00.40.51 - 00.40.57


There are a couple moments when the bass feels as if it sucks the air out the room, like in a scene where a ghost pulls on a girl's leg.

01.25.30


Then there are moments that hit with a serious low slam or reach deep in ULF

00.02.50 - 00.02.54


00.03.58 - 00.04.01


00.32.50 - 00.33.07


00.42.30 - 00.42.32 ("What's in the Closet?")


01.08.10 - 01.08.15


I think this was probably my favorite scene when Annabelle wanted to play

01.27.00 - 01.27.16


These last three are during the exorcism scene

01.35.15 - 01.35.24


01.38.00 - 01.38.12


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Any graphs for R.I.P.D ? didn't get to go reference but sounded like it had some potential moments and I ended up laughing more than I thought I would wink.gif
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Any graphs for R.I.P.D ? didn't get to go reference but sounded like it had some potential moments and I ended up laughing more than I thought I would wink.gif

 

 

 

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Thank u very much for posting! I really loved that scene at 1:27:00! I notice just a touch of pink in the 20hz area. I played the scene at -19 and ran my fv15hps 2dbs hot for the movie andman did they sound amazing at that particular scene!

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still confused on Elysium. could the audio differ betwwen releases? I watched the english audio on the korean dts hd 7.1 track i posted above.
Going to rewatch a few scenes to verify my score...
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Just watched Hellboy 2. Dual Caps loved this one, great bass the whole way through and enjoyed the movie. They left the door open for a third one. Is it being made yet?

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