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why is it I can't help but envision you as the cow being lowered into the velociraptor pit...?

LOL. Now that's funny.

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As to the arguing question, that question has already been solved and discussed so there's no point in repeating the conclusion.

Today's conclusion, people want to believe their systems are the equal of other systems.
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Thor 2 is pretty much exactly like the first, sadly.

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Lol. Well, Thor has almost an identical LFE profile as the first one--in other words, it's filtered.


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Today's conclusion, people want to believe their systems are the equal of other systems.

We just need a separate forum that is titled "Ask Beeman".

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Really? Just as I thought. Your experience means nothing. Unless your "experience" includes clairvoyance. This is why you are always getting into arguments on here. You spread incorrect info and do it with authority. And then get snippy when called on it.

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In other words, Beeman, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Yet, oddly, you always act like you're an authority on the subject, whatever it may be. Then, when called out, you ignore it or claim people are just being argumentative. It's really odd behavior.

Further, you frequently contradict yourself or speak in vague allusions that seem designed to retain your plausible deniability when called out.

As your name implies, just be a man and admit it, correct the know-it-all behavior, and we'll all move on. smile.gif
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Thor 2 is pretty much exactly like the first, sadly.
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Today's conclusion, people want to believe their systems are the equal of other systems.


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LOL. Now that's funny.

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As to the arguing question, that question has already been solved and discussed so there's no point in repeating the conclusion.

Today's conclusion, people want to believe their systems are the equal of other systems.

Just want to flesh this out. Do you believe that having a higher gain setting automatically means you have less headroom? Based on you experience, of course.
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Just want to flesh this out. Do you believe that having a higher gain setting automatically means you have less headroom? Based on you experience, of course.

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Umm...just as a reminder, there is a person who likes to hit the Report Flag. Not worth getting an infraction notice for.
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I tried to stream it the other night since Netflix does not have the blu ray available for rent, but my Oppo 93 only supports the older Netflix streaming interface which is limited to 720p and stereo. In light of that, I am either going to pull my PS3 down to stream it which does support Super HD and 5.1, or rent the DVD from Netflix, or run down a used copy of the blu ray somewhere. I am hesitant to stream or rent the lossy audio version out of fear that the DD track is a different mix vs the lossless, so I am leaning toward running down a used copy of the blu ray somewhere. Looking forward to checking it out whenever that happens though.

Have you heard it yet and if so, what did you think of the audio/LFE?

well...I have a very low budget setup just by itself, let alone relative to most in this thread (3.2 = Denon x1000, DefTech SM45 (LR), DefTech SM65 (C), Dayton Sub1200(x2)) so I likely hear about 1/5 of what most others do lol

 

With that in mind, Halo4 streamed off of Netflix through my xbox 360 (lol it's getting worse, isn't it...) certainly had much more bass (quantity & quality) than Evil Dead or Cloverfield...but again, that's based on some pretty limited measures. That is, however, backed up by a few other sources listed within this maze of posts/links/threads :)

 

So LFE is solid, but doesn't get very much below 30hz. But there is a lot of it. And the last third of the film has a lot going on outside of the constant LFE barrage.


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Just want to flesh this out. Do you believe that having a higher gain setting automatically means you have less headroom? Based on you experience, of course.

Yes. But that doesn't mean you can't compensate by dialing back the levels and then jacking the levels back up again in the form of a house curve.

All things are not equal and that's what folks are getting upset about. Our system isn't equal to other people's systems and I'm okay with this point.

FWIW, I just finished rescreening the first insertion/extraction scene in "Act of Valor" with my wife. I want to have a house curve that works for her and me where neither are feeling put upon. The point, I'm just sharing and some here are want to make everything into an argument because that's how they're wired.

Agree with me, disagree with me, based on what thecloneranger posted, he needs more subwoofage and if he doesn't want to heed my recommendation, I'm good. There is no argument.

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Yes. But that doesn't mean you can't compensate by dialing back the levels and then jacking the levels back up again in the form of a house curve.

All things are not equal and that's what folks are getting upset about. Our system isn't equal to other people's systems and I'm okay with this point.

FWIW, I just finished rescreening the first insertion/extraction scene in "Act of Valor" with my wife. I want to have a house curve that works for her and me where neither are feeling put upon. The point, I'm just sharing and some here are want to make everything into an argument because that's how they're wired.

Agree with me, disagree with me, based on what thecloneranger posted, he needs more subwoofage and if he doesn't want to heed my recommendation, I'm good. There is no argument.

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This thread is my new favorite, it's fun to read. When I'm bored or feeling down I no longer watch movies with good bass, I come here.  

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Yes. But that doesn't mean you can't compensate by dialing back the levels and then jacking the levels back up again in the form of a house curve.

All things are not equal and that's what folks are getting upset about. Our system isn't equal to other people's systems and I'm okay with this point.

FWIW, I just finished rescreening the first insertion/extraction scene in "Act of Valor" with my wife. I want to have a house curve that works for her and me where neither are feeling put upon. The point, I'm just sharing and some here are want to make everything into an argument because that's how they're wired.

Agree with me, disagree with me, based on what thecloneranger posted, he needs more subwoofage and if he doesn't want to heed my recommendation, I'm good. There is no argument.

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Ah, I see. So considerations like input voltage, size of the room (or distance from the MLP, to be more accurate) and how loud the person listens to it are of no consequence, huh? Just simply turning up the gain reduces your headroom? Please tell us more!

As soon as I get home I'm going to set my gains 1 tick above OFF. MAXIMUM HEADROOM!!!!!!!!! Who knew that's all it took? Jeez, I could have saved myself some money. I haz sad. frown.gif
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Ah, I see. So considerations like input voltage, size of the room (or distance from the MLP, to be more accurate) and how loud the person listens to it are of no consequence, huh? Just simply turning up the gain reduces your headroom? Please tell us more!

As soon as I get home I'm going to set my gains 1 tick above OFF. MAXIMUM HEADROOM!!!!!!!!! Who knew that's all it took? Jeez, I could have saved myself some money. I haz sad. frown.gif

I posted a reply. If you wish, drop me a PM and you can argue in private.
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I posted a reply. If you wish, drop me a PM and you can argue in private.

Defeats the purpose. I already know you have no clue what you're talking about, as do the others who have replied to you. The reason others refute your claims on the forum and not in private is not to educate YOU, because you seem to resist that. But it's to ensure that you don't lead others astray with your false info. If I were new to this hobby and saw your number of posts and the authorative way you make your claims, I might just start listening to you. In too many instances, that would be a mistake.

So yes, I and others more knowledgeable than me (and certainly you) will continue to correct you. Don't like it? Stop posting about things you don't know. And admit when you're wrong. Problem solved.
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He will never admit he is wrong no have tried explaining it to him multiple times. He will never change. Multiple people have said this. And he just denies it and chalks it up as picking a fight. We are trying to teach him his preaching is of false info and doing way more harm than good.

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Good grieve lol

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A disagreement with one person, no problem. We all have different experiences and opinions.

A disagreement with everyone, one has to stop and look in the mirror. Definitely a problem there.

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Well, I guess that means we can get back to bass in movie sound tracks.

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A disagreement with one person, no problem. We all have different experiences and opinions.

A disagreement with everyone, one has to stop and look in the mirror. Definitely a problem there.

But he will say the problem is with the mirror..................rolleyes.gif
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+1. not to argue, it's "good grief" :P

Maybe it was a play on words. He was so sad by the utter ridiculousness of the thread that he was pushed to lamentation. biggrin.gif
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But he will say the problem is with the mirror..................rolleyes.gif

Well, the problem with the mirror is that it's not flat to 11Hz nor is it capable of reference-level sound.
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