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Agreed - four stars. Monster House has Randy Thom's fingerprints all over it... the walking house scenes are just off the wall nuts for LFE. If the whole movie were like that, it would be a five star.

Reminds me of How to Train Your Dragon in terms of how good the sound is in general. It's just lacking in scenes that really let the LFE run rampant. But when it does, fasten your seat belts.

I'm happy I bought this one on Blu-Ray... absolutely worth it. I came close to buying it on DVD a few times. Glad I waited.

Very well said! I am glad I bought it as well. Funny thing is I rented it two years in a row and by the third I realized that this was going to be an annual Halloween film for me and I should just buy it. Well worth it as you say!

I am going to revisit Silent Hill sometime this week for another Halloween movie. I remember some impressive LFE in this film!

Also Have Trick r Treat here from Netflix, but not expecting much from that one as far as LFE (or is there for those who have seen this?).

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Silent Hill will disappoint you if you're looking for Monster House quality LFE. It's barely a four star for me.

I picked up Hide and Seek the other day out of the five dollar DVD bin because I saw the DTS logo on the case. Not sure what to expect from that one, but if there's bass in there I'll know it.

Annual Halloween tradition for me is to run The Haunting in DTS-ES. May not do it this year... getting sick of the movie. On the other hand, I haven't seen it since the projector and the second tapped horn went in, and I just love cranking it for the DTS trailer at the start of the movie. Otherwise, I'm sure the Exorcism of Emily Rose would be glad to step in... there's a four and a half star movie right there.
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Good call on Emily Rose as I forgot about that one and remember it having some great lows. Just put it in the que.

I would be curious to see the graphs for the elevator scene in Silent Hill. I remember that scene in particular hitting HARD, but not sure how low it went.

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Just watched Captain America and for comic book movies that have come out this fall I would say this comes in last place in terms of bass. This movie was really does not even belong on the list. Sorry if I disappointed anyone...




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Just received the new Pirates movie. I hope the bass doesn't disappoint me. The one before that had a great PCM track.


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Just received the new Pirates movie. I hope the bass doesn't disappoint me.

I wouldn't get my hopes up. The third one had Christopher Boyes, Lora Hirschberg, and Christopher Scarabosio in the sound credits. The new one does not, and it really shows.

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I wouldn't get my hopes up. The third one had Christopher Boyes, Lora Hirschberg, and Christopher Scarabosio in the sound credits. The new one does not, and it really shows.

All four of the films were mixed by Chris Boyes.

Paul Massey has mixed the last three with him..

Paul also mixed "I, Robot" and "Master and Commander.."

Chris Boyes "LOTR," "King Kong," "Iron Man" and "Tron" among many others...

When you see "Additional Re-Recording Mixer" it can mean two things..

1. They did pre-dubs (i.e. pre mixing)

2. They came in after the film was finished and did updates, fixed, etc...
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Ah, ok... must have missed his name in the credits. Tends to happen when the plot tries to put me to sleep

Yeah, Boyes' work is usually pretty good. I guess it was this time too, only there was no room shaking LFE like the third movie had.
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Has anyone seen the last air bender? It had tons of bass IMO.
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Ah, ok... must have missed his name in the credits. Tends to happen when the plot tries to put me to sleep

Yeah, Boyes' work is usually pretty good. I guess it was this time too, only there was no room shaking LFE like the third movie had.


Just saw it. Had a few decent LFE scenes, but not a keeper just a rental. I agree, it dragged a bit. I own the third one, has more action, better sound and no matter how often I've seen it, it could never put me to sleep.


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Hubble...shuttle take off...I think I need to lower my lf...got it at about 8 db's hot...stuff was falling off the walls.
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TF3 was mind blowing for me. The bass was more abundant that any other Movie I had ever seen. High quality Bass. There seemed to be plenty of low stuff, but I am probably not interpreting low stuff as some of the real bass heads do.
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TF3 was mind blowing for me. The bass was more abundant that any other Movie I had ever seen. High quality Bass. There seemed to be plenty of low stuff, but I am probably not interpreting low stuff as some of the real bass heads do.

What kinda subs are you running
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What kinda subs are you running

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Procella P15

If you looked at my link in my sig, I have changed from The P10's to a P15.

I just read up on your sub I have personally never heard of that company. Seems to be a nice unit! The bass we are referring to when we say transformers 3 lacks in the extension level that usually brings us down into the single digits (hz). Usually these levels are achieved by large multiple drivers in multiple sealed enclosures. I'm guessing you have listened to the pod emergence scene in War of the Worlds? If so you will realize that transformers 3 doesn't come close in quality or extension when it comes to LFE when compared to something like War of the Worlds.
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I just read up on your sub I have personally never heard of that company. Seems to be a nice unit! The bass we are referring to when we say transformers 3 lacks in the extension level that usually brings us down into the single digits (hz). Usually these levels are achieved by large multiple drivers in multiple sealed enclosures. I'm guessing you have listened to the pod emergence scene in War of the Worlds? If so you will realize that transformers 3 doesn't come close in quality or extension when it comes to LFE when compared to something like War of the Worlds.

I don't have the setup you are describing to dig into the single digits, and I agree that WOTW has the most violent room shifting bass out there (of course I am a fan of FOTP and Hurt Locker as well for ridiculous bass). But I went into TF3 expecting a mid bass bonanza but I was happily surprised to feel there were a number of times the low stuff shifted the room. I have a very small room especially for the sub I have, so I feel the bass pretty easily. I feel it was the best bass experience I have had in my room due to the overall amount of quality bass and how the bass was utilized in tandem with the satellites to create a truly impressive sound field experience. I don't argue that other movies have moments that TF3 can't touch in terms of visceral deep impact, but if I had to rate the movie bass experience overall I think TF3 is right there with anything I have heard.
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Im contemplating buying IMAX: Hubble to be a demo bit. I usually default to WotW to impress people, but IMAX cracked the drywall in my house (again).

My biggest disappointment this summer has been TF3. So much room for improvement...

Ill rented X-Men based solely on the reviews here for LFE and found the story to be pretty entertaining too. Ill probably add that one to the collection.
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My biggest disappointment this summer has been TF3. So much room for improvement...

You guys make me laugh ! TF3 biggest disappointment when this title is probably best soundtrack of the year overall. I am not talking about bass extension but overall. Yeah maybe WOTW beat it and some others too for LOW BASS but you can t describe it as a failure. Clarity, detail, surround sound reproduction, low frequency effects power and quantity, dynamics, everything is here. So stop complaining because bass extension doesnt reach 5hz or so at 0db...

Uncompressed 24/96 7.1 channels should be the way to go !

And please. NO DIALOG NORMALISATION CRAP !!!
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You guys make me laugh ! TF3 biggest disappointment when this title is probably best soundtrack of the year overall. I am not talking about bass extension but overall. Yeah maybe WOTW beat it and some others too for LOW BASS but you can t describe it as a failure. Clarity, detail, surround sound reproduction, low frequency effects power and quantity, dynamics, everything is here. So stop complaining because bass extension doesnt reach 5hz or so at 0db...


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Just finish Captain America, that sound track fell way short. I would not give it more than 3 stars if that.
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Just finish Captain America, that sound track fell way short. I would not give it more than 3 stars if that.

Agreed. It there was almost no bass. In scenes that should of had the room shaking.
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As I said earlier , THIS IS the disappointment of the summer. Even in theaters Capt 'n couldn't make me smile. Worse it make me fall asleep pretty quickly. Not just the bass but the hole soundtrack was pretty boring. Music was very week, not much surround information, dynamics were so-so, and pretty anemic bass. A real dumber !!!

Uncompressed 24/96 7.1 channels should be the way to go !

And please. NO DIALOG NORMALISATION CRAP !!!
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^^^^ I read the pro reviews so I rented it. I should have listened to you guys. I thought the overall sound track was lacking alot also. I feel even if the movie has a good story if the sound sucks so does the whole experience.
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You guys make me laugh ! TF3 biggest disappointment when this title is probably best soundtrack of the year overall. I am not talking about bass extension but overall. Yeah maybe WOTW beat it and some others too for LOW BASS but you can t describe it as a failure. Clarity, detail, surround sound reproduction, low frequency effects power and quantity, dynamics, everything is here. So stop complaining because bass extension doesnt reach 5hz or so at 0db...

Thats your opinion and youre welcome to it. I still think its has lots of room for improvement, thats my opinion.

See how opinions work? Dont tell me to stop complaining or having an opinion.

P.S. Not sure if you read the thread title, but its "The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts". I bolded the important part. If you want to sing the praises of how awesome the soundtrack is, thats great, do it elsewhere. This isn't the thread for that.
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Procella P15

If you looked at my link in my sig, I have changed from The P10's to a P15.

Yea, those subs look pretty good to me. I have read up on their speakers before and they seem like they are really top notch. Enjoy that system. I know I would.

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I just had the pleasure of "Hanna" last night. WOW! What I wouldn't give for all movies to be this strong. The flyover scene sent a wave through the room that felt like someone threw a blanket over me. Nice effect.

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Yea, those subs look pretty good to me. I have read up on their speakers before and they seem like they are really top notch. Enjoy that system. I know I would.

Yeah, I am in heaven. I would say that if I had to sum up Procella in one phrase it would be "clean dynamics". The best part is the personal customer service has been amazing.....kind of unexpected from a global company. That is very important to me. They are definitely a no nonsense company that is focused on the great reproduction of sound. There are many great companies out there, but IMHO Procella is part of the upper echelon of that pack.
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I saw Captain America in the theater and loved it, primarily because of the wonderfully faithful job it did of updating a WW-II comic book story with 21st Century moviemaking techniques. I watched the BD last night and agree that the LFE in Captain America's 7.1 HD audiotrack was lacking. That was doubly disappointing because of how fond I am of the film.
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You guys make me laugh ! TF3 biggest disappointment when this title is probably best soundtrack of the year overall. I am not talking about bass extension but overall. Yeah maybe WOTW beat it and some others too for LOW BASS but you can t describe it as a failure. Clarity, detail, surround sound reproduction, low frequency effects power and quantity, dynamics, everything is here. So stop complaining because bass extension doesnt reach 5hz or so at 0db...


The problem was the expectation.... Since most cinemas have real trouble below 30Hz, we generally have to wait until we get the BluRay to see how low it will dig and with how much power. With the stuff we saw onscreen in theaters, we were expecting more extension than ~20Hz.

Thor suffers from the same thing. When a magical hammer forged in the heart of a dying star causes a not-so-trivial land tsunami to form, you expect your room to shake violently...

There is no question that TF3 is a great soundtrack. But compared with Battle:LA, and Tron:Legacy and X-Men:First Class and even Scott Pilgrim, it simply lacks extension. B:LA and T:L and X:FC and SP were surprises in the extension department, and that's why they are lauded with praise here.

TF3 was expected to surpass the other two TF movies.....it does in many ways, but definitely not in the extension department.

This film was mixed for cinema playback, with no 'goodies' for the home users who can dig octave(s) lower than typical cinemas....

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PS - I still have to do avg/peak measurements on this film.
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Not sure if you read the thread title, but its "The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts". I bolded the important part. If you want to sing the praises of how awesome the soundtrack is, thats great, do it elsewhere. This isn't the thread for that.

Nonsense. Content on this forum topic is very subjective and has always included discussions about sound tracks that may or may not have the deepest extension to qualify for DVD's With House Crumbling Bass, which btw was the original catalysis for this 'sticky' thread.


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You guys should check out American Horror Story on FX
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