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post #121 of 22578 Old 05-25-2011, 01:48 PM
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I did not see Inception on the list. DTS-HD 5.1 The bass extends very low, @ pretty long intervals. I had to turn the sub down abit. It shakes the entire house. I'd like to see watermarks for this movie. Also it is a very good flick. Using a PSB Subsonic 8.

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Titan A.E. - DVD, DTS

First movie to be waterfalled by yours truly using the output of my new Behringer UCA222. Note the lack of 60Hz hum

These charts are done with the DTS audio ripped off the DVD and split into WAV files - LFE only.

Guys... before you watch this movie, for the love of all that's holy, turn on your subsonic filters. I got three scenes for you. First, Earth blowing up. Second, navigating the ice field. Third, destroying the Drej and creating New Earth. I won't post them all in image form, just the juicier ones. Not that they aren't all juicy... I didn't do 15 of these on this title because of a lack of overwhelming LFE

If this ain't a five star, I don't know what is. All waterfalls processed using bass redirection below 80Hz. This movie has a lot of infrasonics in the main channels.



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Titan A.E. has been my mainstay forever. All sorts of wide bandwidth bass throughout that would give even the most capable audio system a good workout.

Thank you SO much for graphing this one, Wolf.

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No problem.

Yeah, I almost blew out my computer sub when I decided to unmute the line-in midway through the graphing and the levels were left a bit high. Not sure I've seen a movie with quite that much sub 10Hz content before.

Incidentally, Titan A.E. and Tron Legacy both share Christopher Boyes as sound designer and re-recording mixer. He also did Iron Man 2.
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Scott Pilgrim vs. The World anyone?
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Couple pages back.

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I did that one
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lfe man didn't update the first post. He also didn't post Tangled, Harry potter, and The Good, the Bad, the Weird...


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Holy crap Wolf, didn't know that titan a.e have that deep bass in lfe channel. Looks like there is some high level 2-10hz bass, totally nuts and thanks again.
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I like the big purple blob down around 5Hz in the 9th screenshot. That was recorded during the ice field sequence. Insane stuff in there.
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lfe man didn't update the first post. He also didn't post Tangled, Harry potter, and The Good, the Bad, the Weird...


Don't worry, i will put them on later... still lotsa work in those older ones.
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Wolf, are you just now discovering Titan A.E.? That has been a LFE staple for years now I need to pull out this old DVD and bask in the goodness since it has been a few years

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Yea but is Titan A.E a Good movie beyond the bass in it.

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Yea but is Titan A.E a Good movie beyond the bass in it.

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Wolf, are you just now discovering Titan A.E.?

Yep. Couldn't find a copy until recently.
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Oklahoma Wolf you should put your color bar into those graphs somehow.

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Incidentally, Titan A.E. and Tron Legacy both share Christopher Boyes as sound designer and re-recording mixer. He also did Iron Man 2.

That explains it And talking about good re-recording mixers, Anna Behlmer did both Cloverfield and War Of The Worlds :
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She also did Thor which a couple of people here have said has awesome bass
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I did not see Inception on the list. DTS-HD 5.1 The bass extends very low, @ pretty long intervals. I had to turn the sub down abit. It shakes the entire house. I'd like to see watermarks for this movie. Also it is a very good flick. Using a PSB Subsonic 8.

Here's what LFE Man said about Inception:
"Nope, Inception gets 4 1/2 from me. Lots of fantastic LFE moments, but a little too much LFE weirdness to get that last little bit.

I still believe the strange LFE in this one is intentional. Especially since the re-recording mixer and the sound designer also worked on The Dark Knight."
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And talking about good re-recording mixers, Anna Behlmer did both Cloverfield and War Of The Worlds

I like her already. Then again, anybody working with Randy Thom is as likely to be an LFE nut as we are.

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Oklahoma Wolf you should put your color bar into those graphs somehow.

Yup and also amplitude bar is important.



She also did Thor which a couple of people here have said has awesome bass

Indeed, it's going to be awesome in dvd/blu-rays...cant wait. Also fast five will have great bass.
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Nice to see a new and updated thread. Thanks a lot for doing all the work for this.
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I just rewatched Hulk, definitely enjoying it. Very intense action sequences.

Anyone know what games for PS3 (blu ray right? Haha) are good for LFE? Don't really know if they have high quality audio since its blu ray.

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Guys, something to keep an eye on is the new x-men movie coming out.

I loaded up the trailer from apple, and was not expecting the room to get so pressurized and the lights on my amps to go nuts. If this movie has any near the LFE that the trailer did, it's going to be crazy.

This is mic'd from my desk in the back of the room, but my system doesn't really have any issues reproducing lfe

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Guys, something to keep an eye on is the new x-men movie coming out.

I loaded up the trailer from apple, and was not expecting the room to get so pressurized and the lights on my amps to go nuts. If this movie has any near the LFE that the trailer did, it's going to be crazy.

Trailers are almost always cut but a completely different set of audio crews than the features... trailers are paid for, produced and controlled by marketing (in 99% of the cases..) It is rare we are ever involved, or that any of the sound editing crews work is passed along (for many reasons..)

In addition, trailers cannot be released if they exceed a certain average volume limit based on a set standard (an LEQ measurement over the run time of the trailer..) While it is quite liberal, it is still fairly contained vs. the feature (which has no limit except for digital clipping at any given time..)

If you don't meet the spec, the MPAA will not certify the trailer, and it cannot be given a green band... which means no general public release.

Since the LEQ scale used is weighted a certain way, low end is almost negligible in the outcome of the target number... mid and high frequencies must be kept in check.

This is one reason that a lot of trailers use massive low end to help get impact in two or three minutest...

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Interesting. Your comments are always appreciated and informative.

I guess I won't get my hopes up too much then
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Interesting. Your comments are always appreciated and informative.

I guess I won't get my hopes up too much then

Oh, I think it will be awesome regardless.

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Oh, I think it will be awesome regardless.

Chris Burdon mixing (Scott Pilgrim, Kick Ass) and Craig Berkey designing///

And now I'm looking forward to it again.
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I just rewatched Hulk, definitely enjoying it. Very intense action sequences.

Anyone know what games for PS3 (blu ray right? Haha) are good for LFE? Don't really know if they have high quality audio since its blu ray.

Battlefield Bad Company 2 is all you need for a video game sound demo for some friends coming over to check out the system. Mortar strikes, tanks, huge guns, C4, you get the picture.
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Scott Pilgrim is my current fav for sound. VERY well done, and lots of low level sound always in the background contributing....

What can we look forward to soon that you have done?

Also, do you know who is mixing Transformers 3?

JSS

Currently, I have "Bridesmaids" out (an LFE extravaganza ) and "Judy Moody" coming out...

Starting "Safe" (Sept release) tomorrow... Jason Statham... guns, punches and car chases.. lots of fun.

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Battlefield Bad Company 2 is all you need for a video game sound demo for some friends coming over to check out the system. Mortar strikes, tanks, huge guns, C4, you get the picture.

Thanks! Oh and anyone looking for deals - best buy and borders are having some nice blu ray specials today. Picked up the xmen trilogy (includes movie bucks for first class on each blu ray) and WOTW and dark knight. Did not break the wallet at all! I did see LOTR on the clearance rack at borders too.

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