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That's why we all have our individual tastes. biggrin.gif I'd rather watch B:LA 5 times before watching I, Frankenstein again. Better movie and MUCHHH better bass, IMO.

Yea I, Frankenstein is not the same as underworld movies and it has its moments that scream low budget. I guess I just noticed some things in Battlefield LA that just screamed a little louder in the cheesy department. I won't ever buy I, Frankenstein unless I see it in the 5-7 dollar bin. But yes we are all different. I also mentioned a long time ago that I think mood has a decent impact on our assessment of movies as well.

But hey, we always have the Super Lycan scene in Underworld awakening to fall back on!!! One of my fav's smile.gif
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I Frankenstein was OK in the bass dept and nothing really dug deep to me. However Battle LA was slamming with bass and over all a better movie IMO.

I didn't think I, Frankenstein was anything special in the bass department but it had nice bass to accommodate the on screen action. And a few scenes in the beggining had my wife saying, "Yep this movie has bass!" Like the scene in the graveyard starting out where the demons attack him. Now Battlefield LA has better bass yes but I didn't feel it was anything special. I feel like I am defending Frankenstein and charging Battlefield LA lol! I mean I won't go back to BFLA for any demos and the bus scene is even on my demo disc. I will choose the known ones plus some of my favorite ones like WWZ and the Super Lycan scene. I prob still stand for the final fight scene in TIH as "maybe" tops. I just love the impact of the feet hitting the ground and the combination of upper and lower bass the graphs show. WOTW is pretty nuts too. A side note is I am still settling in on a final calibration and I may bump the sub trim up a little. It is a little lower than before. But also before with my mega crazy house curve watching scenes like WOTW and the Looper scene in the house with the kid would have me scrambling for the remote to turn it down the bass was so fearful! Now I am on the journey of keeping things impactful with my house curve but still able to play the mega scenes without volume changing.
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B:LA knocked my old projector off the shelf where it never happened before. I was watching the movie and the last battle scene where the aliens come out had me watching a blue screen while the action and sound was still going!

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I didn't think I, Frankenstein was anything special in the bass department but it had nice bass to accommodate the on screen action. And a few scenes in the beggining had my wife saying, "Yep this movie has bass!" Like the scene in the graveyard starting out where the demons attack him. Now Battlefield LA has better bass yes but I didn't feel it was anything special. I feel like I am defending Frankenstein and charging Battlefield LA lol! I mean I won't go back to BFLA for any demos and the bus scene is even on my demo disc. I will choose the known ones plus some of my favorite ones like WWZ and the Super Lycan scene. I prob still stand for the final fight scene in TIH as "maybe" tops. I just love the impact of the feet hitting the ground and the combination of upper and lower bass the graphs show. WOTW is pretty nuts too. A side note is I am still settling in on a final calibration and I may bump the sub trim up a little. It is a little lower than before. But also before with my mega crazy house curve watching scenes like WOTW and the Looper scene in the house with the kid would have me scrambling for the remote to turn it down the bass was so fearful! Now I am on the journey of keeping things impactful with my house curve but still able to play the mega scenes without volume changing.

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You are correct as there was nothing special about, I Frankenstein in the bass dept, but in comparison to the dry spell we have had as of late with movies with NO BASS it was OK. Battle LA was an OK movie overall as there are a lot worse in my opinion such as Frankenstein's Army ,Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. I could watch Battle LA any day over those two. Battle LA clobbers , I Frankenstein in the bass dept, plain and simple.
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B:LA knocked my old projector off the shelf where it never happened before. I was watching the movie and the last battle scene where the aliens come out had me watching a blue screen while the action and sound was still going!

Dang !! You had the woofer and or woofers moving more than just air !! Ha ha !!

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I didn't think I, Frankenstein was anything special in the bass department but it had nice bass to accommodate the on screen action. And a few scenes in the beggining had my wife saying, "Yep this movie has bass!" Like the scene in the graveyard starting out where the demons attack him. Now Battlefield LA has better bass yes but I didn't feel it was anything special. I feel like I am defending Frankenstein and charging Battlefield LA lol! I mean I won't go back to BFLA for any demos and the bus scene is even on my demo disc. I will choose the known ones plus some of my favorite ones like WWZ and the Super Lycan scene. I prob still stand for the final fight scene in TIH as "maybe" tops. I just love the impact of the feet hitting the ground and the combination of upper and lower bass the graphs show. WOTW is pretty nuts too. A side note is I am still settling in on a final calibration and I may bump the sub trim up a little. It is a little lower than before. But also before with my mega crazy house curve watching scenes like WOTW and the Looper scene in the house with the kid would have me scrambling for the remote to turn it down the bass was so fearful! Now I am on the journey of keeping things impactful with my house curve but still able to play the mega scenes without volume changing.

Do you have ported subs? Because to me, some of the best aspects of B:LA are its really low lows. I didn't fully appreciate it until I got my transducers.
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Yes, B:LA was the movie that had me install a ceiling mount, it hit the projector shelf resonance just right! I was also running 12 dBs hot at that time!

Here is a subjective way of knowing you have gained some low end to the bass. When I added my IB every time I run a bass heavy scene my wife calls me and says WTH are you doing! I am running the IB much flatter than any other system to before yet I get much more complaints. Success!

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Yes, B:LA was the movie that had me install a ceiling mount, it hit the projector shelf resonance just right! I was also running 12 dBs hot at that time!

Here is a subjective way of knowing you have gained some low end to the bass. When I added my IB every time I run a bass heavy scene my wife calls me and says WTH are you doing! I am running the IB much flatter than any other system to before yet I get much more complaints. Success!

Nice...

i frankentstein was a goody movie but the bass was well placed at the ending scenes with all the destruction. I still think the bass needed to be more prominent for what they were trying to do onscreen though...

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Saw Godzilla in 3d IMAX today. Really liked the movie even though there were a couple of moments where I just wanted it to move along. The audio was very good, so was the bass. There were a couple of times it seemed like it should've hit a little harder. Either way I recommend it and hope it's not filtered on bluray!
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B:LA knocked my old projector off the shelf where it never happened before. I was watching the movie and the last battle scene where the aliens come out had me watching a blue screen while the action and sound was still going!

Actually I do remember the end scene with that mothership thing blowing up was quite nice. But one thing here I just remembered friends is that I was very sleepy that night and had "slightly" dozed off a couple times that night. And that I am still playing with the bass department calibration. I have run like a 17db house curve in the past that made the traditional scenes scary and make the house sound like it would cave in! Now I am still hot, like 8db I think, but still playing with it. I think I will change the PGM 2 feature on both of my Submersives which give a 3db bump below about 45hz.

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You are correct as there was nothing special about, I Frankenstein in the bass dept, but in comparison to the dry spell we have had as of late with movies with NO BASS it was OK. Battle LA was an OK movie overall as there are a lot worse in my opinion such as Frankenstein's Army ,Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. I could watch Battle LA any day over those two. Battle LA clobbers , I Frankenstein in the bass dept, plain and simple.
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Do you have ported subs? Because to me, some of the best aspects of B:LA are its really low lows. I didn't fully appreciate it until I got my transducers.

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B:LA knocked my old projector off the shelf where it never happened before. I was watching the movie and the last battle scene where the aliens come out had me watching a blue screen while the action and sound was still going!

I'm surprised this is not talked about more. I had to do quite a bit of work as far as sorbothene feet, pads, toothpicks jammed in the lens shift, etc....just to get my 3d projector and picture to stay in place. My 2d JVC is mounted in the closet behind the HT and shoots through a hole in the wall, so it does not take nearly as much of an LFE hit, but even it needed sorbothene feet and I still need to tweak the lens shift at times after a big bass film. A motorized lens stays put MUCH better vs a manual lens I have found as well.

Battle LA is one of my favorites for LFE. Lots of great scenes, but that whole end section from when they first find the ship below ground until all the action stops is one of my favorite demos. cool.gif

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So do you basically need the black market copy to get the movie with the bass it aught to have?! That would figure...

Maybe not. I believe I reproduced this Rebassing effect some time ago without fully realizing it. When i graphed the car chase scene from Jack Reacher. Little did i realize i had the normalizer on smile.gif

Jack Reacher rip played on Media Player Classsic HT Normalizer ON/OFF


So far each version I've graphed seems to have been boosted in a slightly different way. I'm still amazed to see how effortlessly the infrasonics are boosted.
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Dual Seaton Submersives (2400's).

Ok I just switched my Submersives back to PGM 2 and DAMN what a difference! I bumped the trim back down 1db on each. Tested the Battlefield LA scene in the bus and a full on assault back maddage was in place. TIH is just plain ridiculous!

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You are correct as there was nothing special about, I Frankenstein in the bass dept, but in comparison to the dry spell we have had as of late with movies with NO BASS it was OK. Battle LA was an OK movie overall as there are a lot worse in my opinion such as Frankenstein's Army ,Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. I could watch Battle LA any day over those two. Battle LA clobbers , I Frankenstein in the bass dept, plain and simple.
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Oh yea Pulse server scene is amazing!!

Here is a short vid of that scene played on my system. I am using a rat shack digital c-weighted, so yea it reads low below 30hz. Obviously not near the sub system some of you have but it is decent. I ran REW RTA Thd analysis on a 20hz sine wave @ MV 0 and there was les then 7% thd, so this should be a fairly clean demo.

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Ok yea I forgot to check out pulse yet so here I come.

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Oh yea Pulse server scene is amazing!!

Here is a short vid of that scene played on my system. I am using a rat shack digital c-weighted, so yea it reads low below 30hz. Obviously not near the sub system some of you have but it is decent. I ran REW RTA Thd analysis on a 20hz sine wave @ MV 0 and there was les then 7% thd, so this should be a fairly clean demo.

http://youtu.be/Nqy6_3fxOG4

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So do you basically need the black market copy to get the movie with the bass it aught to have?! That would figure...

Maybe not. I believe I reproduced this Rebassing effect some time ago without fully realizing it. When i graphed the car chase scene from Jack Reacher. Little did i realize i had the normalizer on smile.gif

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So far each version I've graphed seems to have been boosted in a slightly different way. I'm still amazed to see how effortlessly the infrasonics are boosted.




The entire audio bandwidth is boosted when the normalizer is set to on. Not much different than turning up the audio level.
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Actually I do remember the end scene with that mothership thing blowing up was quite nice. But one thing here I just remembered friends is that I was very sleepy that night and had "slightly" dozed off a couple times that night. And that I am still playing with the bass department calibration. I have run like a 17db house curve in the past that made the traditional scenes scary and make the house sound like it would cave in! Now I am still hot, like 8db I think, but still playing with it. I think I will change the PGM 2 feature on both of my Submersives which give a 3db bump below about 45hz.

That might explain it. Cuz unless your room is huge, you have plenty of firepower to fully appreciate B:LA.
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Thanks to J_Palmer_Cass for the suggestion. You hit the nail right on the head. Never donned on me to try the maximize button.

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Thanks to J_Palmer_Cass for the suggestion. You hit the nail right on the head. Never donned on me to try the maximize button.

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I'd imagine the laserdisc's AC3 mix would be a bit more aggressive in those same scenes wink.gif
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Anybody have any more comments about Pompeii on Blu-ray and 3 Days to Kill on Blu-ray since being released on Tuesday ? Thinking about giving both a spin this weekend.

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Anybody have any more comments about Pompeii on Blu-ray and 3 Days to Kill on Blu-ray since being released on Tuesday ? Thinking about giving both a spin this weekend.

Bass is decent on 3 days to kill, but even better is the great soundtrack ... I need to get some of the cool tracks by going through the credits... I couldnt shazam most of the songs

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3 days to kill better movie with better bass.
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