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Old 05-28-2014, 03:04 PM
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I understand exactly what your talking about regarding Elysium , the bass could be considered heavy handed but thats what I liked about it as it didn't require a boost and it was workout for the sub to extract definition from it and balance it with the mix ( a difficult task) and not sound muddy. It seems like Pompeii may have a good sounding balance in contrast. For sure not all bass tracks are the same and a different experience can be had from all good case in point is Frankenstein's Army and Dead in Tombstone not all will like it but those differences are to be appreciated and keeps things fresh.

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I think you will enjoy Pompeii. Report back after you watch. smile.gif

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Are we talking another "Elysium" style debate, I finally got my netflix copy in but won't get to view till later this week , are others finding a sub bump necessary (3-6 db) are its just the single digit stuff here were the movie shines. I'll see what if anything I can get from it but I did find Elysium to have excellent bass and a well done soundtrack.
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You shouldnt need too. I've always found after calibration Audyssey always sets my sub trims too low. Its a common problem that has always been talked about. Checking it all with omni mic I'm pretty flat.

I reckon give it a try mate!.......there is some extreme ultra low stuff in there....so I can understand why ppl can't hear it wink.gif
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Redbox BD. Dts-master

I have capable subs/room size I have been a regular on this thread. But as I said so far nothing great. I assume it's towards the end

There was one scene where the ground was crumbling by the shore. But other than that nada

My post#16841 was meant in fun of the previous post above that were posted by other posters !! I rented the Pompeii BD DTS-HD from Redbox and to tell the truth it was not the so called Bass Monster that I was expecting. The Bass was just not there as others state. I will not agree to agree just because others experienced the hidden bass. I'm not going to watch that movie again as there was nothing great about it overall. I would consider it a B movie at best and that's being subjective.
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^^ what about Jack Ryan? It had some deep loud bass. Movie is pretty good too IMO.
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Here's a teaser of something to look forward to next week. Lone Survivor around the 21min mark:

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/12-the-low-frequency-content-thread-films-games-music-etc/page-104#entry3328

eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

Get your preorders in!

OMFG nube,

I am presently watching this movie RIGHT NOW and had to stop to come here to post that scene...it is truly unbelievable eek.gif

I going to watch the rest now but WOW to that scene.
To put in perspective...I have a soundproofed approx. 1600cuft dedicated HT Room and am pretty flat to 5hz.
I took my Rat Shack meter and was getting 134DB !!! biggrin.gif

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Here's a teaser of something to look forward to next week. Lone Survivor around the 21min mark:

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/12-the-low-frequency-content-thread-films-games-music-etc/page-104#entry3328

eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

Get your preorders in!

as if i didn't want lone survivor bad enough already....geez!

 

i just picked up a couple oldies but goodies....looper, hurt locker, and 3:10 to yuma.   loved all these movies when i rented them, but always forgot to order them along the way.  they were pretty awesome with my single pb10, i cant wait to hear them with my dual xv's!  :D

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Just watched Metallica's Through the Never, my first concert bluray. F*****G awesome!!!
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My post#16841 was meant in fun of the previous post above that were posted by other posters !! I rented the Pompeii BD DTS-HD from Redbox and to tell the truth it was not the so called Bass Monster that I was expecting. The Bass was just not there as others state. I will not agree to agree just because others experienced the hidden bass. I'm not going to watch that movie again as there was nothing great about it overall. I would consider it a B movie at best and that's being subjective.
Good luck and I hope you can find the hidden gem. biggrin.gif
Agree 100%

While the bass did pick up at the 1:07 mark. It still was not up there with the big boys

Movie fricken blew!!
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Would be curious to see a graph of Seal Team 8 if you have access to it by chance. Not sure how deep it dug, but it was a fun LFE fest type of track.
Watching Seal Team 8 behind enemy lines now and it has lots of strong low bass with lots of action. Has anyone had graph for this one? My guest is strong down to teen or even single digit on this one. Check it out, Just awesome. One of my favorite bass movie so far this year.
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Here's a teaser of something to look forward to next week. Lone Survivor around the 21min mark:

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/12-the-low-frequency-content-thread-films-games-music-etc/page-104#entry3328

eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

Get your preorders in!

This will be the first time I ever pay over 20 bucks for a movie (where is best preorder?). I usually wait for them to come down...Besides I don't feel bad about supporting this one smile.gif
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Here's a teaser of something to look forward to next week. Lone Survivor around the 21min mark:

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/12-the-low-frequency-content-thread-films-games-music-etc/page-104#entry3328

eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif

Get your preorders in!
Just view that 21 mins mark and it was good but not spectacular with my subs. Like BHD Irene scene, my subs cannot produce reference level to single digit to feel that level of energy frown.gif
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I think you will enjoy Pompeii. Report back after you watch. smile.gif

I have I, Frankenstein and the new Hercules coming tom, so hoping those are good.

Yes! I did enjoy Pompeii , its a beast and I will be buying a copy ,its utter lack of teal ( only some green screen) and film like picture were great. Thanks again for your endorsement on the bass, it was dead on .
On a side note check out Day breakers after I Frankenstein (preview in the begining of it) next up for me is Seal Team 8 can't wait.
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You shouldnt need too. I've always found after calibration Audyssey always sets my sub trims too low. Its a common problem that has always been talked about. Checking it all with omni mic I'm pretty flat.

I reckon give it a try mate!.......there is some extreme ultra low stuff in there....so I can understand why ppl can't hear it wink.gif
I claim no ability to reproduce single digits with the level as you big boys but after a slight 4db ( post Audyssey correction for bass level) and a volume of -5 to full reference this movie delivered a true 5 star bass experience and it need justify itself to no one and rest squarely head to shoulders with the best out there past and present .
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Agree 100%

While the bass did pick up at the 1:07 mark. It still was not up there with the big boys









Movie fricken blew!!

Ok so yeah the movie did reach some borderline cheesiness and the wife has took a stance on it and not for the good and commented that it sounded like someone was throwing TNT around the room biggrin.gif

But come on man this one deserves its due, I'm not sure how many movies capitalize on that much bass at all frequencies for that duration, once started it seemed it wouldn't end, it was a violent experience but beautiful the movement of tons of air both positive and negative in the room wink.gif
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I tested Pompei again with my Dual Submersives and it was pretty good I admit. But KS was some seriously cheesy acting...
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I tested Pompei again with my Dual Submersives and it was pretty good I admit. But KS was some seriously cheesy acting...

My wife and I got to one part and just had to laugh. Heavy contrast for how much of a 24 fan we are but both couldn't let him slide or cut him any slack biggrin.gif
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I was going to do some testing, but I found that the MPC HC normalizer function is not available for standard DVD / Bluray sources. Only video sources can be manipulated.

That being said, there is a major boost in full band audio level when the normalizer is turned on. Not sure what happens to the LFE channel because I have no source material to test. The factory normalizer setting is 400%, but what was your normalizer set to?

Since your format is not DVD nor Bluray, I take everything that you show with a grain of salt.


For the normalized graphs i just turn the function on. These are my settings




I figured out how to get into the MPC HC normalizer function. I am not familiar enough with the program yet. There are three different ways to get into that menu. All the normalizer does is change volume levels so that clipping will not occur during downmixing. With the proper normalizer setting the volume should decrease rather than increase.

You need to update your program. You are missing the normalizer adjustment feature.

Also, how do you feed the Spectrum lab program with content? I use the DVD player build into my PC, and downmix to Spectrumlab.
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You need to update your program. You are missing the normalizer adjustment feature.

Thx, I got the new version. I see the new normalizer settings Il have to check them out.
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Also, how do you feed the Spectrum lab program with content? I use the DVD player build into my PC, and downmix to Spectrumlab.

For Peak and Average graphs I use wave files. For my other graphs I feed digital audio to my virtual sound card.


Both these methods are direct and roll-off free.

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Non-Stop:


Yup. Non-Stop looks to be a bass monster when its released June 10th.
Here are some captures from the action scenes.






Plenty of bass for everyone.

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Not compromising in Pompeii. Maybe I'm too swayed by how bad a movie it was.

But I just didn't get the feeling if wow this is great. Hell I get that from a few scenes in zambezia and walking with dinosaurs and those two moves are also terrible
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Meh, Im pretty happy with my Quads, AJ wink.gif.............I heard the Triax too here in AUS at the last DTV GTG and I wouldnt say that was big jump in performance from a Submersive....I couldnt justify the extra cost for me going the Triax route. Im flat to 10hz................and thats in a room that is wide open to the rest of the house lol.

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Meh, Im pretty happy with my Quads, AJ wink.gif.............I heard the Triax too here in AUS at the last DTV GTG and I wouldnt say that was big jump in performance from a Submersive....I couldnt justify the extra cost for me going the Triax route. Im flat to 10hz................and thats in a room that is wide open to the rest of the house lol.

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You bet!biggrin.gif

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Just view that 21 mins mark and it was good but not spectacular with my subs. Like BHD Irene scene, my subs cannot produce reference level to single digit to feel that level of energy frown.gif

What happens during that scene in lone survivor? helicopters flying?
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What happens during that scene in lone survivor? helicopters flying?

Perhaps the rise of a new King ? we shall indeed see, the bottom dwellers will chime for sure ( no pun) I just preordered my copy as this seems to be the 2014 champ we've been waiting for wink.gif
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Imagine 8 of them? LOL!. cool.gif
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Not compromising in Pompeii. Maybe I'm too swayed by how bad a movie it was.

But I just didn't get the feeling if wow this is great. Hell I get that from a few scenes in zambezia and walking with dinosaurs and those two moves are also terrible

Zambezia was cool!......that had awesome bass!. But for me Pompeii killed it!.............my opinion of course! lol. But having watched both on my system, I definetely prefer Pompeii for the bass smile.gif
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Not compromising in Pompeii. Maybe I'm too swayed by how bad a movie it was.

But I just didn't get the feeling if wow this is great. Hell I get that from a few scenes in zambezia and walking with dinosaurs and those two moves are also terrible

That was exactly my feeling on it. Yes, it measures well, but it still isn't something I'll be in any rush to go back and watch for the bass. I dunno what it is. I couldn't bring myself to give it a 5 star on d-b.com. It subjectively (or objectively in some cases) isn't as good as your TIH/WOTW/OHF's. But that's just me.

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Perhaps the rise of a new King ? we shall indeed see, the bottom dwellers will chime for sure ( no pun) I just preordered my copy as this seems to be the 2014 champ we've been waiting for wink.gif

Definitely not a new King. That scene was ridiculous, but the rest of the movie wasn't as good as that. Overall sound, picture quality, and movie were outstanding, though. Definite buy, for me.
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Watching Seal team 8. This is another Hot Fuzz wannabe. Plenty of bass loving it.
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Meh, Im pretty happy with my Quads, AJ wink.gif.............I heard the Triax too here in AUS at the last DTV GTG and I wouldnt say that was big jump in performance from a Submersive....I couldnt justify the extra cost for me going the Triax route. Im flat to 10hz................and thats in a room that is wide open to the rest of the house lol.

When are you going to join the Quad club?.....4 x JTR Cap's would rock! biggrin.gif[/

You bet!biggrin.gif

Would love to hear an Orbit Shifter deliver WWZ grenade scene:D
Don't know about that one. The OS is ported and rolls off below 20Hz. For me at least, there are LOTS of movies with mid/upper bass sweeps. What makes WWZ my current favorite bass sweep is the high levels when it gets down to 10Hz. Those shuddering pulses through the house are what make that sweep something else! IIRC, in the JTR thread, they mentioned that avs'er rhed's 4 Cap S2's is equivalent to something like 8 OS's (or was it 16?!) at 10Hz.


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