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Quite impressive. Strong upward downward sweeps to 10hz.


then this

That chart of yours made me smile :-) As I felt it just a few days ago.

2 questions............ 1) how do you actually measure it with that cool chart and 2) Have you listened to anything more impressive than that? Care to point me to it?

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...I am actually curious to know how low those frequencies are....
Low enough...

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i have never, ever seen a graph like that. holy smokes....crazy!
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Thank you. What I'm not finding is whether this is a line level measurement of the program content, or an acoustic measurement with a mic, etc..
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I think it's all discussed over there, but it's no longer done either of the ways you mentioned. The old way was line level measurement to see what frequencies were recorded in the program content, and sometimes (for comparison's sake) an acoustic measurement with a mic to see how well your system was reproducing said content.

The new way, however, which everything at the Data-Bass.com site is based on, is to measure the digital program content directly off the discs themselves.

The bottom of the first post I linked you to, right below the last ranking of program content, says this specifically:
The way I always did mine was directly from the DVD.

See the old master list

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Right, but you were still measuring the output from the DVD player's audio out. This new method just reads the data off the disc before it's gone through any equipment, so it's all digital.

Speaking of, we have a bunch of movies that need voting on over at the Data-Bass.

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...-bass-content/

If you've seen any of the movies being polled, please take a minute to vote.
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Saw Godzilla yesterday in 3D

Sound?

In my opinion very disappointing sound mastering.
FFS it's GODZILLA!
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Right, but you were still measuring the output from the DVD player's audio out. This new method just reads the data off the disc before it's gone through any equipment, so it's all digital.

Speaking of, we have a bunch of movies that need voting on over at the Data-Bass.

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...-bass-content/

If you've seen any of the movies being polled, please take a minute to vote.
I wish I could help, but I don't have any of those titles.

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i have never, ever seen a graph like that. holy smokes....crazy!
I know right?
I had to lower it down as I got a bit "scared" :-)
can this damage my $1,000 sub? even at not so high volume?

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I know right?
I had to lower it down as I got a bit "scared" :-)
can this damage my $1,000 sub? even at not so high volume?
No, it cannot. Your Rythmik F12 is superbly engineered by one of the best sub designers in the business, and has built-in limiting/protection circuitry to prevent it from being destroyed by rogue signals such as that bass "song."
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Godzilla looks like a louder Avengers.
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Godzilla looks like a louder Avengers.
Avengers could be the biggest let down in history followed by Pacific Rim!

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Avengers could be the biggest let down in history followed by Pacific Rim!

+1. No "weight" to either of them. So much potential, what a let down. My opinion of course.... Although I did really like the overall mix for Avengers, lack of the low end was really my only complaint.
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Right, but you were still measuring the output from the DVD player's audio out. This new method just reads the data off the disc before it's gone through any equipment, so it's all digital.

Speaking of, we have a bunch of movies that need voting on over at the Data-Bass.

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...-bass-content/

If you've seen any of the movies being polled, please take a minute to vote.
wrong, not the way i was doing it

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Avengers could be the biggest let down in history followed by Pacific Rim!
No way would I put PR in that class. Sure PR was missing some extension, but it was killer otherwise IMO with loud levels and excellent execution besides extension. That whole ocean/city battle is one of my favorite audio/3d demos even with the slightly lacking extension.

Biggest bass letdowns in no particular order for me would be The Hobbit, 2012 and RotS. Avengers was a letdown as well of course, but a notch above those three for sure.

Having said that, one bass track that I revisited the other night that I can't find anything to complain about is Three Musketeers. 3M has it all from extension, output, hits in all the right spots, etc....great 3d/PQ as well.
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i have never, ever seen a graph like that. holy smokes....crazy!
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No, it cannot. Your Rythmik F12 is superbly engineered by one of the best sub designers in the business, and has built-in limiting/protection circuitry to prevent it from being destroyed by rogue signals such as that bass "song."
So nice to hear your compliments :-)
In my new theater I'll be buying one more.

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Anyone seen any good bass movies recently that are on blu-ray? Liked oblivion and planning on getting edge of tomorrow when it comes out. I guess I'm looking for adventure or thriller movies that are at least halfway decent.
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Anyone seen any good bass movies recently that are on blu-ray? Liked oblivion and planning on getting edge of tomorrow when it comes out. I guess I'm looking for adventure or thriller movies that are at least halfway decent.
Last movie I seen worthy of good bass was Lone Survivor. If you looking for thriller I would say The Cabin in the woods, The Conjuring or Triangle. These all have some good bass and half way decent movies.
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Anyone seen any good bass movies recently that are on blu-ray? Liked oblivion and planning on getting edge of tomorrow when it comes out. I guess I'm looking for adventure or thriller movies that are at least halfway decent.
I plan on picking up Captain AmericaTWS on blu ray when it goes on sale. I watched the ripped version and it was great.
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wrong, not the way i was doing it
It's essentially the same thing. I'm not sure why you're arguing this point, as it says very clearly here that you were working with analog output from the signal chain, which is the whole point I was making:

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Q: Can you simply pop in a DVD and play it in the background with MediaPlayer, then run Spectrum Lab to analyze the sound? Or do you have to do something funky like route the line-out from your sound card to the line-in?

A: Yes, but it plots all channels when you play disc in the background
Since we are only plotting LFE I unplug the rca from the sub and connect it to the line in on the souncard

Q Do you need any plugins for Spectrum Lab to analyze the DD/DTS sound or does it work with the standard install?

A: No, it works with the standard install
We all appreciate the work you put in on this subject, but the new process is apples-to-apples and completely digital, so there's no calibration required for the signal chain because the signal chain has been taken out of the equation.
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It's essentially the same thing. I'm not sure why you're arguing this point, as it says very clearly here that you were working with analog output from the signal chain, which is the whole point I was making:



We all appreciate the work you put in on this subject, but the new process is apples-to-apples and completely digital, so there's no calibration required for the signal chain because the signal chain has been taken out of the equation.


I don't use your method, yett my signals are all digital AFAIK. I use the player built into my PC and my laptop, but I do use the PC sound card.

You still have to "calibrate" when you use your method, because when you add 6 channels of audio together you will end up with signal levels above 0 dBFS if you do not do a "calibration".
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It's essentially the same thing. I'm not sure why you're arguing this point, as it says very clearly here that you were working with analog output from the signal chain, which is the whole point I was making:



We all appreciate the work you put in on this subject, but the new process is apples-to-apples and completely digital, so there's no calibration required for the signal chain because the signal chain has been taken out of the equation.
how is it done the "new" way ?
and I'm not arguing

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I don't use your method, yett my signals are all digital AFAIK. I use the player built into my PC and my laptop, but I do use the PC sound card.
seems about right , or wrong as the case may be?

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I plan on picking up Captain AmericaTWS on blu ray when it goes on sale. I watched the ripped version and it was great.
I am pretty stoked for Captain America. Looking forward to Edge of Tomorrow also. Captain America may be the first movie I play in the new theater room. Should be right around my target for the grand opening.
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I am pretty stoked for Captain America. Looking forward to Edge of Tomorrow also. Captain America may be the first movie I play in the new theater room. Should be right around my target for the grand opening.
Same here.

Speaking of Target and CA 2, Target will have the 3d version for $20 release week.

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'3 Days to Kill' ... you guys like the bass in that one?
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Same here.

Speaking of Target and CA 2, Target will have the 3d version for $20 release week.
I have noticed lately with certain new release titles that the major outlets are competing by offering their own special promo packaging. If anybody is in to that thing, you should look a head of the release and see what the specials are from Target, BB and Walmart. I actually like the steel books if I can find them, but I have been noticing that Walmart has been throwing in a bonus movie for a few bucks more, usually the first movie if it is a sequel.
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how is it done the "new" way ?
The "new" method that the Data-Bass uses to measure is quite simple.
1. They Rip a disc. (just the audio in .wav format)
2. They measure the Rip in Speclab.
And there definitely is equipment involved. including a BD player and PC.

Originally Posted by nube:
"This new method just reads the data off the disc before it's gone through any equipment"

The way nube is describing it, sounds very esoteric and confusing. Almost like they have some mythical creature reading data off the disc for them.
???


@Pianist all you need is speclab.
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