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'3 Days to Kill' ... you guys like the bass in that one?
Yes I liked it and was good in places like explosions and such. It has been mentioned that the audio was filtered at 30Hz by nube.
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Godzilla was ok. Lots of loud bass, but nothing too low. There was some heavy rumbling in the tsunami scene tho. DTS-HD MA track.


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[QUOTE=lfe man;27003066]Blu-ray version lacks though, filtered somewhere around 15hz, had to save dvd version.
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Darn it lfe man !! Now I have to buy the Cloverfield DVD version as I thought the BD was good as it can get !!
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I just got back from Guardians of the Galaxy and if that movie is unfiltered it will be a gem. Although the sound at my local theater is horrible (sounds like a pair of BIC F12's back there) I could still hear quite a few scenes in the making that should dig deep. Fingers crossed.

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I know this list is for movies but the Captain Morgan white rum commercial has crazy bass for a commercial. It's the one where something shoots at a coconut and blows it up. Like under 25hz content.
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The forest and train/bridge scene is the best scene audio wise in the entire Godzilla movie. Can those that have the uncompressed blu ray track check if the Muto effects have more weight (low frequency wise) compared to Big-G effects? That is what I felt in the theater.

Loved the movie overall, although I would have liked to see the Muto EMP affect Big-G in some way (maybe stop him from charging for the atomic breath or something like that) as it makes no sense for the Muto to have those properties.

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Why did The Dark Knight Rises and The Conjuring get rated so low. I thought those had great bass!

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Blu-ray version lacks though, filtered somewhere around 15hz, had to save dvd version
First time that I'm hearing about this since the bluray came out. Is this really true? Everyone always had good this to say about it. I think the bass is incredible.

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Why did The Dark Knight Rises and The Conjuring get rated so low. I thought those had great bass!
I thought so too, as I've told some of my non audiophile friends DKR is one of those scenes I use to show both subwoofer (along with grenade scene from WWZ) and surround sound for my setup. The opening scene with the plane shakes my house and I've only got a PB-12NSD, can't imagine if I had a 13-Ultra.
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my best friend has never seen "lone survivor"...

he's comin over in an hour to watch it...gonna set MV at -10 and let 'er rip...!
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my best friend has never seen "lone survivor"...

he's comin over in an hour to watch it...gonna set MV at -10 and let 'er rip...!
That sounds...like a very reasonable experience.

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That sounds...like a very reasonable experience.

he was blown away...both by the movie AND the soundtrack!!

i mighta let the volume slide to -8...

that soundtrack just sucks you into the movie at those kinda levels...!

the look on his face and watchin him squirm in his chair was priceless...!

so how do you like qatar pop...?

what's the time differential over there?
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he was blown away...both by the movie AND the soundtrack!!

i mighta let the volume slide to -8...

that soundtrack just sucks you into the movie at those kinda levels...!

the look on his face and watchin him squirm in his chair was priceless...!

so how do you like qatar pop...?

what's the time differential over there?
Ha, lil' 2db bump is always in everyone's best interest!

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Blu-ray version lacks though, filtered somewhere around 15hz, had to save dvd version.
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Darn it lfe man !! Now I have to buy the Cloverfield DVD version as I thought the BD was good as it can get !!
Would I get anymore from the DVD with these subs ?
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Thanks for the info....

Blu-ray have unfiltered track too, atleast on italian soundtrack that is louder than dvd version ,so check it out if it's worthy... so if you can get some extra shaking or pressuration before you re-buy dvd?


One good scene to try this is just before when they enter to metro tunnels or when they are in helicopter and that monster is walking in city streets before get bombed.

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Why did The Dark Knight Rises and The Conjuring get rated so low. I thought those had great bass!
Great bass? Tdkr is clipping mess and overall pretty bad mix(imo). Where is bass from tumblers or bat bike, what was in batman begins or tdk?


Conjuring wasnt that great either, mainly 30hz film, few loud scenes there though.



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First time that I'm hearing about this since the bluray came out. Is this really true? Everyone always had good this to say about it. I think the bass is incredible.

Yes it's true, i dont have any charts on this computer to proof it though.
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Blu-ray have unfiltered track too, atleast on italian soundtrack that is louder than dvd version ,so check it out if it's worthy... so if you can get some extra shaking or pressuration before you re-buy dvd?


One good scene to try this is just before when they enter to metro tunnels or when they are in helicopter and that monster is walking in city streets before get bombed.
One of my favorite scenes of all time is the military crossfire scene... I'm not sure if it digs much below 16Hz or so, but when you are pushing 125db at the LP it's fawking fun.

I remember running that scene full tilt with my mains running full range, then repeating the scene full tilt with my subs engaged...

Talk about night and day...lol. My mains are good down to the mid-low 30's.

 


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The "new" method that the Data-Bass uses to measure is quite simple.
1. They Rip a disc. (just the audio in .wav format)
2. They measure the Rip in Speclab.
And there definitely is equipment involved. including a BD player and PC.

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"This new method just reads the data off the disc before it's gone through any equipment"

The way nube is describing it, sounds very esoteric and confusing. Almost like they have some mythical creature reading data off the disc for them.
???


@Pianist all you need is speclab.
You pretty much nailed it, as desertdome had previously described in this thread regarding how to get the lossless audio into the proper digital format for measuring. However, the point (which I know you got) is that it does not go through any equipment that changes the audio, bit for bit, in any way. It's all digital. That's how it's different from the old way, which definitely went through DACs at multiple points, making it inherently less than perfect for measurements. The graphs are done in SpecLab, and are in reference to 0dBFS (of 128dB), but the measurements are not done in SpecLab.

Not trying to be esoteric, just don't want to discuss questionable/gray area DMCA stuff in the thread. Being vague is better than showing hubris.


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inherently... esoteric... hubris...

dang nube...you done gone and growed up right in front of our very eyes...
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Blu-ray have unfiltered track too, atleast on italian soundtrack that is louder than dvd version ,so check it out if it's worthy... so if you can get some extra shaking or pressuration before you re-buy dvd?
One good scene to try this is just before when they enter to metro tunnels or when they are in helicopter and that monster is walking in city streets before get bombed.
I have the BD and was blown away by the American track bass wise !!! As matter of fact I just spun it a couple of weekends ago. Have to keep the sub woofer cones from dry rot. (LOL).
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One of my favorite scenes of all time is the military crossfire scene... I'm not sure if it digs much below 16Hz or so, but when you are pushing 125db at the LP it's fawking fun.

I remember running that scene full tilt with my mains running full range, then repeting the scene full tilt with my subs engaged...

Talk about night and day...lol. My mains are good down to the mid-low 30's.
WOW !!! I would like to be there in your set up !!!

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just respun lone survivor....this time at -15....first of all i love this flick....but besides that there was some serious rumble throughout...and it wasn't overcooked. there was boom right where it needed to be. the only exception was the ac130 blasting those big cannons. i felt like there should have been a little bit more low end oomph on those. overall though, i feel like this one gets better the louder you play it.
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Blu-ray have unfiltered track too, atleast on italian soundtrack that is louder than dvd version ,so check it out if it's worthy... so if you can get some extra shaking or pressuration before you re-buy dvd?


One good scene to try this is just before when they enter to metro tunnels or when they are in helicopter and that monster is walking in city streets before get bombed.

Great bass? Tdkr is clipping mess and overall pretty bad mix(imo). Where is bass from tumblers or bat bike, what was in batman begins or tdk?

I am confused about you clipping comment.


Conjuring wasnt that great either, mainly 30hz film, few loud scenes there though.

I thought it pounded pretty hard!





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just respun lone survivor....this time at -15....first of all i love this flick....but besides that there was some serious rumble throughout...and it wasn't overcooked. there was boom right where it needed to be. the only exception was the ac130 blasting those big cannons. i felt like there should have been a little bit more low end oomph on those. overall though, i feel like this one gets better the louder you play it.

If your referring to the ac130 being the guns out the side of the big plane I would have to agree but other than that the mix is perfection. Really nerve racking when the explosions come when you least expect it. Great dynamics and one of my absolute favourites.

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If your referring to the ac130 being the guns out the side of the big plane I would have to agree but other than that the mix is perfection. Really nerve racking when the explosions come when you least expect it. Great dynamics and one of my absolute favourites.
yes, the ac130 is the big plane with the huge guns toward the end of the movie when he is being rescued. just seemed like there should have been more impact with those big things. other than that...great mix.
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just respun lone survivor....this time at -15....first of all i love this flick....but besides that there was some serious rumble throughout...and it wasn't overcooked. there was boom right where it needed to be. the only exception was the ac130 blasting those big cannons. i felt like there should have been a little bit more low end oomph on those. overall though, i feel like this one gets better the louder you play it.
We were actually lucky enough to get possibly one of the best mixes of the year and maybe all time. Stop being so greedy you bass feen.

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We were actually lucky enough to get possibly one of the best mixes of the year and maybe all time. Stop being so greedy you bass feen.



All time may be a stretch but I'll reserve that until Netflix stops holding it hostage or I break down and buy it ! Given that, an all time best for me would be to hard to decide on as I love all the top dogs for various reasons.
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LS.. I thought it was one of the best surround sound tracks I've heard to date with the gunfire/bullets that sounded real, flying all over the place !! Bass was good too.

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All time may be a stretch but I'll reserve that until Netflix stops holding it hostage or I break down and buy it ! Given that, an all time best for me would be to hard to decide on as I love all the top dogs for various reasons.
When I say that I mean soundtrack. LS just had it all and not to mention that it was a good movie. Maybe not the overall best bass movie, but certainly is my all time great for the best soundtrack, but will still was no slouch in the bass dept either, the bass was excellent. I have never used Redbox, so I cannot comment on the quality of their copy.
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However I do keep in mind that movies are subjective. I just watched the new 300 rise of the whatever and was very disappointed with the over all movie. The bass was decent , but the surround track was off (Redbox BD). The dialog on the center channel was messed up (too low) and the side channels were louder than the front left and right main channels. I just did not like the movie that much when compared to the original 300.
Netflix shipped out 300: Rise of an Empire today so I should get it tomorrow for this weekends viewing. I see you say the overall sound except bass was a disappointment. Do you think it could have been just your disc that could have had a bad audio track? I'm hoping the disc I receive will have good sound.

I'm a sucker for sequel's and do find most never live up to the first but as stated subjective. I have Hope and that pushes me forward that one day I'll find that sequel that will surpass the original! I know there are some out that have done just that. Looking forward too CA: The Winter Solider as most talk has given it good reviews.
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Another great scene for surround is the gatling gun scene in Book Of Eli. However it is only one scene, but a great demo scene. I actually watched the whole movie and I really liked it. Reminded me of the old Mad Max movies of the day. Maybe that is why I liked it. I seen that they are remaking Mad Max, minus Mel Gibson.

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Netflix shipped out 300: Rise of an Empire today so I should get it tomorrow for this weekends viewing. I see you say the overall sound except bass was a disappointment. Do you think it could have been just your disc that could have had a bad audio track? I'm hoping the disc I receive will have good sound.

I'm a sucker for sequel's and do find most never live up to the first but as stated subjective. I have Hope and that pushes me forward that one day I'll find that sequel that will surpass the original! I know there are some out that have done just that. Looking forward too CA: The Winter Solider as most talk has given it good reviews.
Well, first off good luck and I hope it turns out to meet your expectations in a movie. Yes it could have been the REDBOX BD copy that had the issue as I'm not sure. There was talk of redbox and others having different disc for rentals somewhere on these forums . Regardless it's a once and done movie for me and so I'm not willing to try it again on any other disc. The 300 (Subjective) blew this new one out of the water in every way in my opinion, acting, storyline and the likes. But you will have to be the judge and if you like the new one then that is cool.

I'm with you on the sequel's as I have a lot of them from Transformers to the Kill Bill's etc.
Took the wife and kids to the Cinema to see CATWS when it first came out and it turned out to be a really good movie that I will buy on BD. Subjectively in my opinion it blew the CA out of the water!! The Bass was not good in the Cinema, but hopefully it will be a beast once on BD.

I'm going to give Oculus a spin if I can catch it available from Redbox.
Also I can't wait until Edge of Tomorrow arrives on BD so I can compare it to Oblivion which is my all time favorite movie to date since it's release.
Again good luck and crank it up this weekend and enjoy.
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