Originally Posted by Soupy1970
I completely understand your point that you don't want to join another site for info. I don't even know why it is ethical for someone to constantly promote another site on this thread but maybe they have some agreement or sponsorship with AVS. I have to say it is somewhat annoying to me that some people act like it is our obligation as members here, to be a member over there. To me if people want to vote and participate and what not over there, they will. Not sure why we need to be constantly reminded that other site exist.
With all that said, I do agree that Google is a wonderful tool and should be used more often. If Google sends you to Databass.com for the info you are searching for than so be it.
Thank you for that. I do very much limit info given, even in terms of telephone numbers, email address, etc. What was involved here was my request that someone who is graph savvy and belongs to AVS and DATABASS, simply click over there, open the attachment, pick one or two "egregious" examples of clipping, and come back with the time signatures.
I had cited the movie PHANTOM as having an extraordinary low frequency output, and was happy to pass that along to the bass-eager fanatics herein -- after all, I'd recently purchased my CAP S2s on the basis of what was written herein, and I've ordered many movies just for their bass content as noted in these pages. Beyond the bass content, I thought PHANTOM exhibited superior transparency and dynamics -- an overall excellent track.
So then someone arises to inform that the track is riddled with bad sounds. Irredeemably flawed. Is there something amiss with my hearing? Two pairs of $30K speakers, one pair of $15k speakers for centers, $15k on amps, and more speakers and a pair of CAP S2s didn't allow me to hear fatal distortion? My curiosity is indeed aroused, but if casual listening didn't get me there, one or two time signatures on where the bad sounds can be found will have me going back and listening very critically.
I'm a member looking to expand my knowledge, someone has stepped forth with an important challenge, so what was involved was a graph-savvy member of AVS and DATABASS clicking on the link and retrieving a couple of prominent examples of where my equipment and hearing failed me. But what I get is not the usual helpfulness, but a barrage of extended criticism about how I should not expect that two minute favor, that I'm not important enough, etc.
The protest is so amazing, I'm really wondering what is going on, and frankly it did occur to me that there was some motivation afoot to get members to enlist on that site -- to get to that info, you NEED to join, no one here going to help you -- proselytization in effect. Either that, or the Emperor has no clothes -- in other words, this "bad sound" riddled track, that may measure out as having imbedded clipping, really has no audible corollary of that, and this is something I would find out if I knew the offending time signatures.
I will continue to investigate this, especially now, because all the resistance I got really has raised the stakes for what is going on here.
Thank you for your post, friend.