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There is no filter on the 5.1 master for HT.

I didn't "mess" it up.
You sir, are the man. Real tanks don't have a filter, so I am glad you went about this the "right" way, haha. Any 10hz or lower material make it into the mix?

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You sir, are the man. Real tanks don't have a filter, so I am glad you went about this the "right" way, haha. Any 10hz or lower material make it into the mix?
Well, if they actually recorded real tanks and they did not add a filter it has to be there!
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Can someone tell me why some Blu-ray movies have the bass filtered? What is the point of filtering bass?
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depends, some feel "no one" has the capability anyways below a certain point, but for the most part, commercial theater subs are already high passed between 20 and 30hz so they do their mixes accordingly. When the "HT" is done separately, they are leaving it the same as the commercial mix in some cases.

I think Avengers actually put the filter in so they could just go insane with the >30hz material and not worry about system limitation below that point. I think I remember someone mentioning something about that. I am not @FilmMixer though, he likely could give you the exact answer you are looking for.

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I watched The Desolation of Smaug Extended from iTunes last night and my gut tells me that the bass was improved from the theatrical blu-ray. I haven't watched the theatrical version in a while, but the extended version pretty much gave me what I would have expected for the content of the movie.
The theatrical and extended have the same LFE content, no difference.
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Weren't blurays bragging about being the same as the master? Are masters mixed for the theaters? Then there needs to be HT mixes on bluray all the time. Basically, no filters.
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Has anyone seen the movie The Rover? And if so does it have good bass and an overall good soundtrack? I reserved it at Redbox since there was nothing else worth getting that I haven't seen.
decent enough flic - not much in low frequency but remember really enjoying the soundtrack

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Weren't blurays bragging about being the same as the master? Are masters mixed for the theaters? Then there needs to be HT mixes on bluray all the time. Basically, no filters.
Sadly, that isn't the case. I had a lengthy conversation with a well known mixer, and he explained that most movies are remixed for disc. Disc mixing apparently involves lower levels and speakers positioned closer to the mixer.

My personal opinion on this: Positioning the speakers closer to the mixer, assuming they're level and FR compensated, should have basically no effect. Other than making the room a bit closer to anechoic, because the speakers are now quite close to the listener and far from the walls. Mixing at a different level, whether it's up or down, completely destroys the entire purpose of a reference level. We can do our own level compensation for various listening levels on the playback side, but only if we know where reference was. It seems that we'd be better off just getting the theatrical mix. But because I (we) never have the opportunity to hear both mixes on the same system, it's hard to accurately judge.

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Just watched X-Men First Class and DOFP back to back at Reference and my initial impressions were correct:

For folks who don't fiddle with re-EQ'ing the bass individually for every single different movie, the 2 movies aren't in the same league.

Of course, according to the folks at DB, if you're willing to spend money on a PEQ and plug in individualized EQ curves for individual movies, even Battleship can be 'decent'.


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Actually if you look at each one first class is a little louder. The recommendation for DOFP is to turn up the LFE, no EQ involved.
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