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Well been in a bass slump latley except for The Expendables 3. Loved the big guns as the had some tone. I was able to revisit Hanna last night. Wow I really enjoyed this films bass moments. I'm still in awe as I watch these movies on revisits to how much I missed the first time around. The sub does help put you into the film.
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Watched Max Payne....wow...the gunshots are ULTRA powerful .
Any other movie with awesome gunshots ?
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Watched Max Payne....wow...the gunshots are ULTRA powerful .
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I believe Open Range is good?

Personally I find one of the more challenging scenes to reproduce is the chain gun scene in Dredd!
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Well been in a bass slump latley except for The Expendables 3. Loved the big guns as the had some tone. I was able to revisit Hanna last night. Wow I really enjoyed this films bass moments. I'm still in awe as I watch these movies on revisits to how much I missed the first time around. The sub does help put you into the film.
Good report on The Expendables 3 ! I have yet to view it and will try for this coming weekend. We have not purchased new furniture in a while and so I have been on hunt for rocker recliners to replace the couch in the HT room. Spending a lot of time online and in stores. Putting movie watching on hold until I have them set up and should have some final decisions before the weekend. For quality the prices are crazy high !!
I really like Hanna as well and I have it in my collection. You are correct, a good sub or subs really make the difference in movies.
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Watched Max Payne....wow...the gunshots are ULTRA powerful .
Any other movie with awesome gunshots ?
Yep Max Payne has some very powerful gunshots. Another one for you to watch would be Hitman with Timothy Olyphant (Actor), Dougray Scott (Actor), Xavier Gens (Director).
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I have always loved The Dark Night for mid bass and overall bass. You know the movie will have great bass right from the beginning with the first shotgun blast during the bank robbery.

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Good report on The Expendables 3 ! I have yet to view it and will try for this coming weekend. We have not purchased new furniture in a while and so I have been on hunt for rocker recliners to replace the couch in the HT room. Spending a lot of time online and in stores. Putting movie watching on hold until I have them set up and should have some final decisions before the weekend. For quality the prices are crazy high !!
I really like Hanna as well and I have it in my collection. You are correct, a good sub or subs really make the difference in movies.
I hope to hear you enjoyed the film if you get the chance this weekend to see it. I think you will and it was fun to watch when old meets new, you'll see what I mean.

Crazy high prices! Yes as they say you get what you pay for. Be careful with those rocker recliners they are sleep inducing machines. I remember you saying a few times how you've fallen asleep during films. I know mine has put me to sleep many times.
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The maze runner: great bass with good use of surrounds.
+1. Not sure how deep it digs, but there was some weight to it.
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I hope to hear you enjoyed the film if you get the chance this weekend to see it. I think you will and it was fun to watch when old meets new, you'll see what I mean.

Crazy high prices! Yes as they say you get what you pay for. Be careful with those rocker recliners they are sleep inducing machines. I remember you saying a few times how you've fallen asleep during films. I know mine has put me to sleep many times.
Ive never fallen asleep watching a movie in my life...that is until I bought my new HT recliners...I doze off almost nightly..damn they are comfy...dont have to worry about pissing off the old lady and her banishing me to the couch haha
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Reference level is 105BD/speaker with playing pink noise and 115DB/subs.

Example of playing a song...
If this is correct than my receiver (HK7550HD) @ -40 volume playing a song I'm getting 86DB peak level with the subs OFF. (cutoff 80HZ)
I'm getting 105DB peak level with my subs on.
So the logic is if I increase my master volume from -40 to -30 then my peak level will go up 10DB (and it does)

How I calibrated my unit/speakers is using it's internal test tones (-30dBFS)
@ -25MVL, I adjusted every single speaker to get a 75DB level on a C-Weighted SPL meter.

With that being said @ -15MVL on my receiver that would equate to the level being +10DB OVER reference. NO?

I'm confused why you would doubt that?
I don't know how the HK receiver works exactly, but at least on all onkyo/denon/marantz units, the test tone is played at reference volume (0.0 on the volume knob) and you calibrate to 75dB (-30dBFS). If you are taking a similar dBFS tone in your HK, but measuring at -25dB MVL, then you are calibrating at 25 dB less than everyone else traditionally does. I'm not saying one way or the other that this is wrong, but it is certainly unorthodox. You can't really get a good idea of reference listening to anything else other than test tones/full bandwidth noise or sweeps at known levels.

Anyways, let's say your music track is accurately playing an 85dB full signal peak at -40. that means -30 is 95dB peak, -20 is 105dB peak (reference), -10 115dB peak (+10 reference) and this is with NO subs. At -10 you are at pretty screaming levels and under no circumstances should you be able to yell at a person seated directly beside you and them hear you. at 115dB at your seats, main speakers, you literally couldnt yell/scream loud enough for them to hear you clearly. From less than two feet away.


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Watched Max Payne....wow...the gunshots are ULTRA powerful .
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the sniper rifle scene in Medal of Valor is a real winner IMO. Lone survivor has some good funshots. Book of Eli gatlin gun scene, and showdown scene are also real winners.

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If you liked those then you'll definitely want to watch "Hitman" I watched both a few months back and was speechless, Hitman is up there with the best gunshots beyond a doubt
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Ive never fallen asleep watching a movie in my life...that is until I bought my new HT recliners...I doze off almost nightly..damn they are comfy...dont have to worry about pissing off the old lady and her banishing me to the couch haha
Tell me about it my Fusion Escapes are notorious for inducing catatonic episodes no matter how pumped I may be to see a movie
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Tell me about it my Fusion Escapes are notorious for inducing catatonic episodes no matter how pumped I may be to see a movie
That is to funny!! I have noticed though that since I got this sub, if I fall asleep and the movie has a good rumble of the seats bass scene it'll wake me up.
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My HT seating is the weak link in my room and I wa thinking of moving my nicer leather sofa down. My question is do you guys find leather or cloth more tactile in nature? I think it was Mark Seaton who mentioned leather having more tactile impact as far as bass so I am curious to try my leather sofa.
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Any other movie with awesome gunshots ?
Really enjoyed the gunshots in Looper and Live Free or Die Hard. Haven't seen Max Payne so can't compare though.
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Just finished. Was great movie. Not a bass monster but sound design was very nice.
spot on - couple decent scenes but nothing crazy- enjoyed the flick and presentation

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nice - just finished the book series - looking forward to it

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My HT seating is the weak link in my room and I wa thinking of moving my nicer leather sofa down. My question is do you guys find leather or cloth more tactile in nature? I think it was Mark Seaton who mentioned leather having more tactile impact as far as bass so I am curious to try my leather sofa.

even better - have mark design a Terraform shaped like a couch, letter wrapped and sit on that
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I hope to hear you enjoyed the film if you get the chance this weekend to see it. I think you will and it was fun to watch when old meets new, you'll see what I mean.

Crazy high prices! Yes as they say you get what you pay for. Be careful with those rocker recliners they are sleep inducing machines. I remember you saying a few times how you've fallen asleep during films. I know mine has put me to sleep many times.
Well, if you think it's good, then I know I will like it !! I can't wait to give it a spin along with some others, mostly repeats. I'm usually good about not dosing off, if I don't get up too early the morning of. Our couch is about 6 years old and with me sitting in the sweet spot during movies it is starting to sag and the cushions can't be replaced. At least that's what the wife thinks and or pretends to. (LOL)
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Good point Brian !! I know I'm making a huge mistake by adding Rocker Recliners, as I can dose off easily with the leather couch . But when watching 2-hour movies, I need to be able to recline.

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My HT seating is the weak link in my room and I wa thinking of moving my nicer leather sofa down. My question is do you guys find leather or cloth more tactile in nature? I think it was Mark Seaton who mentioned leather having more tactile impact as far as bass so I am curious to try my leather sofa.
Try it Toe as you don't have anything to loose. I prefer leather as it's easy to maintain. I don't know if it's better for tactile feeling or not ?
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Wow just watched Lucy the other night and the LFE was really pulsing -- extremely well done by Eric Serra who apparently appreciates how good deep bass can sound on a really good system. The bass notes were top notch and quite distinctive like I have not heard before in a movie. A fantastic soundtrack for us bass junkies that not only sounded incredible but really added to the movie.

I'm really looking forward to watching it again, but first I'll need to chase down a few newly discovered rattles. Last time it sounded great up to about -3db and then the the rattles took over. The system was still sounding great up to +3db but the rattles were too distracting. I think I need to add some sound deadener / dynamat type stuff to all the can lights, maybe open up all the cupboards in the hallway. This will sound great cranked up high. It was wery well mixed to unleash the bass and not be uncomfortable with the mids and highs.
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Wow just watched Lucy the other night and the LFE was really pulsing -- extremely well done by Eric Serra who apparently appreciates how good deep bass can sound on a really good system. The bass notes were top notch and quite distinctive like I have not heard before in a movie. A fantastic soundtrack for us bass junkies that not only sounded incredible but really added to the movie.

I'm really looking forward to watching it again, but first I'll need to chase down a few newly discovered rattles. Last time it sounded great up to about -3db and then the the rattles took over. The system was still sounding great up to +3db but the rattles were too distracting. I think I need to add some sound deadener / dynamat type stuff to all the can lights, maybe open up all the cupboards in the hallway. This will sound great cranked up high. It was wery well mixed to unleash the bass and not be uncomfortable with the mids and highs.
Great post as I'm looking forward to this one and the eye candy within !! The last movie that had me looking for rattles and weird sounds from whatever and wherever in my HT room was T-4.

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I winded up getting both of the Planet of the Apes movies tonight with a Promo Pack for a couple of extra bucks. I really want to watch the new Dawn of the planet of the Apes first as I heard it was good. Do you really need to see Rise of the planter of the apes first??
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I winded up getting both of the Planet of the Apes movies tonight with a Promo Pack for a couple of extra bucks. I really want to watch the new Dawn of the planet of the Apes first as I heard it was good. Do you really need to see Rise of the planter of the apes first??
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Just finished watching the new Ninja Turtles....pretty good bass flick! All around was a fun movie that brought me back to my child hood days.

Are there any measurements out for it yet? There was a avalanche scene that went pretty low towards the end of the movie. Also had good dynamics, I would give it 4 stars.

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Has anyone graphed 'All is Lost'??
Think you'll find a pretty impressive scenecap over at data-bass.com of the storm scene.

As far as gunshots go Lone Survivor when they light up the village is very impressive amongst other great effects throughout the movie.

Olympus Has Fallen has some great machinegun action in the early stages from the garbage trucks firing into the whitehouse grounds. Gatling gun action from the whitehouse roof pretty cool too later on.

Underworld Awakenings guns (Kate Beckinsale's) have a nice pop to them.

Dredd's a good one for gunshots as someone mentioned previously.


If your looking for something you may not have seen yet to fill the void Cowboys and Aliens is definitely worth a look. I really enjoyed the bass in this, the movie aint too bad aside from one of the cheesiest moments I've ever seen in a film delivered by Harrison Ford. Some great gunshots in this too.

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I've always liked the gun shots in Taken. Especially the scene where Liam Neeson finds Marco from Tropojë.
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