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This is interesting on "Fury" it would seem this will be highly debated and I'll bet this one will get more subjective 4-4.5 stars ! perhaps it should be remeasured or a second opinion is needed. Just what is a an anomaly or blip in a graph anyway
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This is interesting on "Fury" it would seem this will be highly debated and I'll bet this one will get more subjective 4-4.5 stars ! perhaps it should be remeasured or a second opinion is needed. Just what is a an anomaly or blip in a graph anyway
It's explained pretty clearly at db, but essentially, the huge peak at 37hz skews the reading and brings the extension up.
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That graph definitely does show that Fury isn't filtered. There is a lot of stuff in the teens and even whatever that is at 1.5hz.
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It's explained pretty clearly at db, but essentially, the huge peak at 37hz skews the reading and brings the extension up.
Looking at the graph it doesn't appear to filtered huge peak or not ! I'm gonna let my ears have it on this one
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http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...scussion-poll/ confirms what I heard Come on now, 31Hz extension?
TO be fair, as some (including myself) pointed out--it gets that rating because of a blip at 37Hz that makes the -10db point much higher than it should be. No one who hears that track can seriously rate that the same as a true1 star extension movie like Battleship or the Hobbit.

Edit: seems Beast beat me to it.
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Fury,

I completely stand by my initial comment and know exactly what I felt during the movie and what I heard!

I'm starting to question these graphs...

All I remember is the pounding I got while watching it!
It was awesome!
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Fury,

I completely stand by my initial comment and know exactly what I felt during the movie and what I heard!

I'm starting to question these graphs...

All I remember is the pounding I got while watching it!
It was awesome!
And at what freq was that pounding at?

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And at what freq was that pounding at?
There's quite a bit from 19HZ and up...
10HZ to 40HZ is "pounding" in my book

Look at the guys face! It clearly looks like a pounding between 19HZ and 29HZ
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Fury,

I completely stand by my initial comment and know exactly what I felt during the movie and what I heard!

I'm starting to question these graphs...

All I remember is the pounding I got while watching it!
It was awesome!
Fat - at your listening levels - the evening news would give me a pounding
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Looking at the graph it doesn't appear to filtered huge peak or not ! I'm gonna let my ears have it on this one
Your ears will love it - its a great sounding track
we all just keep hoping for the next (hulk, UA, HTTD - insert your favourite) soundtrack and Fury misses that
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Fury,

I completely stand by my initial comment and know exactly what I felt during the movie and what I heard!

I'm starting to question these graphs...

All I remember is the pounding I got while watching it!
It was awesome!
I don't question the graphs as they show what is there, but I do think the methodology of how the extension hz is rated needs to be adjusted in some cases.
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Your ears will love it - its a great sounding track
we all just keep hoping for the next (hulk, UA, HTTD - insert your favourite) soundtrack and Fury misses that

i know where yer comin from GP...but when did we get to the point where we don't take a movie soundtrack as serious unless it spends half the film divin' to the single digits?


don't get me wrong now...i LOVE world war z, oblivion, war of the worlds etc...and i know that's kinda the point of this thread, but dang, i really enjoyed this (fury's) soundtrack as well as thor, avengers, avatar etc...


i hope i'm not comin across as an advocate for filtered soundtracks...not my intent. but i've had a blast watchin movies with soundtracks bottoming out in the 20-30hz range if by design...
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^^^^

geez...i already wish i hadn't typed this...
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geez...i already wish i hadn't typed this...
LOL. A good movie with a good audio is nice to watch. If it has good bass that digs deep as well then its absolutely wonderful to watch.
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i know where yer comin from GP...but when did we get to the point where we don't take a movie soundtrack as serious unless it spends half the film divin' to the single digits?


don't get me wrong now...i LOVE world war z, oblivion, war of the worlds etc...and i know that's kinda the point of this thread, but dang, i really enjoyed this (fury's) soundtrack as well as thor, avengers, avatar etc...


i hope i'm not comin across as an advocate for filtered soundtracks...not my intent. but i've had a blast watchin movies with soundtracks bottoming out in the 20-30hz range if by design...
no argument from me - one of my recent favourites in Into the Storm - some write it off because it rolls of before 20- sounds awesome to me

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All good points guys , I'm glad to hear everyone can still sit back and just enjoy a movie ! 1HZ to??? at the end of the day its just bass


**** This doesn't include the Hobbit
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Yeah Fury was not the Hulk but I thought it was very good and seemed unfiltered (to a point?). Give me that any day over many other compressed, filtered, whatever mixes that seem to be a regular feature these days. Sure maybe it didn't dig as deep (not that I would know with my ported subs. Ha!) but what was there was pretty damn good in my book right in the zone and some good variety too. I'm not knocking digging deep for gold I'm sure it's great but seems like majority movies are in my zone? As long as it's clean I can get a lot of enjoyment 17.5 Hz up which is why I liked Fury despite what the figures say. It's probably no coincidence then that films with deep content still give me great pleasure (down to port tune of course) as they generally wouldn't be filtered if they are going down to single digits or low teens? I don't know this for sure but most films I can think of which possess ELF content are generally highly regarded for bass. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I am curious about the 4 star bass rating of Total Recall. The movie appears to have been recorded at a low volume. Did people have to dramatically increase the volume compared to other movies in order for it to perform at 4 stars? A movie like Hitman is filled with bass from start to finish, and somehow Hitman and Total Recall have the same rating? I must be missing something...
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I am curious about the 4 star bass rating of Total Recall. The movie appears to have been recorded at a low volume. Did people have to dramatically increase the volume compared to other movies in order for it to perform at 4 stars? A movie like Hitman is filled with bass from start to finish, and somehow Hitman and Total Recall have the same rating? I must be missing something...
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Hi Brian,


This thread has rated Total Recall 4 Stars. My ears tell me that there is very little bass going on compared to many films at the same volume. Spectrum Lab would appear to agree. The only way I could see it being anywhere near the star rating is if you dramatically increased the volume level, which I have yet to try.


I do realize that not all movies were recorded with the same gain structures, but the lack of meaningful bass is quite pronounced.


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Total Recall:

Level - 3 Stars (109.24dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (3Hz)
Dynamics - 4 Stars (25.33dB)
Execution - 5 Stars - Full bandwidth track.

overall- 4.25 stars

Hitman: Unrated (5.1 DTS-HD MA)

Level - 4 Stars (110.98dB composite)
Extension - 3 Stars (17Hz)
Dynamics - 4 Stars (26.35dB)
Execution - 4 Stars (by poll)

Overall - 3.75 Stars

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you can see even though the level is a bit lower (and by a fraction of a DB) on TR as opposed to hitman...TR is the better bass film and imho much better

maybe Hitman plays to your preference more of the 30hz bass...nothing wrong with that...just not as much a good bass movie imho or by objective measurements

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I do realize that not all movies were recorded with the same gain structures, but the lack of meaningful bass is quite pronounced.

Way off, TC is a great bass track. Speclab grabs to prove it:

http://data-bass.ipbhost.com/index.p...ge-20#entry567

Watch it again and crank it up a little this time...

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Total Recall is one of my go-to bass demo discs. I'm confused as to why pennynike1 is not feeling it??

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ALIEN ABDUCTION! Netflix only had the DVD so I just watched that with the DD 5.1 track but holy $hit! This movie has a ton of DEEP hard hitting LFE. I thought the use of LFE was fantastic to create tension, but it definitely feels a bit tilted toward the bass fest side of the coin, so refined bass only guys need not apply here. If you are looking for a ton of unfiltered LFE goodness though, this will give you a great fix!
Great review on this one- tension build up is perfect description - just loved the rolling bass waves -
created nice pressure lock in my room and really added to the experience.
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Total Recall is one of my go-to bass demo discs. I'm confused as to why pennynike1 is not feeling it??
It depends on the individual's setup and preferences. Some can reproduce and prefer single digit Hz, some can't and/or prefer 30Hz and up. TC digs deeper, Hitman has more chest slam (gunshots in the 30-60Hz range).


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