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The Admiral roaring current has no ULF and sad to say it's just a so so bass only.
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Did anyone see Paddington in an above average theatre (sound wise), especially the earthquake (rumble) scene?
I have 2 submervsives and was surprised by the eathquake scene since it was an extended scene...seriously deep bass...made me giddy [emoji1]..watching it with my kid now!

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I have 2 submervsives and was surprised by the eathquake scene since it was an extended scene...seriously deep bass...made me giddy [emoji1]..watching it with my kid now!

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Good. Wanted to inquire as the cinema auditorium this played on only does 40hz.


On other note, MM:FR has plenty of mid bass (punchy) at least in the cinema (30hz room).
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Good. Wanted to inquire as the cinema auditorium this played on only does 40hz.


On other note, MM:FR has plenty of mid bass (punchy) at least in the cinema (30hz room).
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MI4 Ghost Protocol was out a while ago but just watched it tonight. Great bass in this one, some seriously good moments. Now there's not a massive amount in it but what's there hits hard in places (Kremlin being blown up WOW!). Very clean audio all round and don't see it mentioned much but I guess it was a while back..........

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The Admiral roaring current has no ULF and sad to say it's just a so so bass only.
And so there would seem to be the other end of the spectrum.

Not sure what "just a so so bass only," means, but for ULF there is that opening to EDGE OF TOMORROW, if that's what does it for you -- I note there are those who have been suggesting lately that the presence of ULF, even gobs of it in gluttonous dosages, can have a cloying, over satiating effect, especially independent of specific filmic content.

There are test tones for ULF. I seem to recall being singularly unimpressed with OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN, though if I'm recalling correctly, it had loads of disembodied low blasts, sans the typical stiffening, impactful midbass, to very odd effect. ELYSIUM I recall had low bass, but I did not like the way the track was mixed, similar to WORLD WAR Z -- music and effects seemed to be at distance, smallish, unrealistic, and therefore non-immersive.

This is a highly subjective business of course. I confess to be not much of a fan of ultra low bass, and I can't even say I have any understanding of what other folks are experiencing in their home theaters. I will say that to even commence the Audyssey set-up for my room and subs, I had to turn the volume down on the back of my subs to within two notches of nothing -- the MARANTZ 7702 won't proceed until you diminish volume, and it will tell you when it's happy.

After the set-up I listened, and could hear no bass to speak of with my two JTR S2s, so I turned the volume on the sub rears to within some notches of the top. I have A LOT of bass now, tuned to preference of my ears alone. With ULF in that kind of mix, it doesn't produce enough of an audible tone to make it worth the large scale excursions which threaten my subs, so I'm unimpressed with it. A taste is nice I grant you, but does not rule my choices.

On ADMIRAL: ROARING CURRENTS, the reviewer for BLU-RAY.COM gave the sound a rather rare 5 of 5 stars and said:

"...the sound mix for The Admiral is superb, especially in the second half when the naval battle begins. With an almost constant assault of surging ocean, creaking (and breaking) hulls, cannon and gunfire, clashing swords, exploding shells, bullets hitting hulls, arrows flying through the air, men barking orders (or simply screaming) and dozens of other sounds layered into the mix, The Admiral's soundtrack plunges the viewer into the middle of battle to the death fought with weapons that are antique but deadly nevertheless. THE BASS EXTENSION REACHES DOWN TO THE LOW REGISTERS, and even when the weapons aren't thundering, the drums in Kim Tae-seong's musical score are doing so." [caps emphasis mine]
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Any good bass for the new movie American Sniper? I heard the movie was really good.
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Thanks for the bass thoughts on Admiral Roaring Current guys. Anyone else seen this and care to give their impression of the low end? Seems we have one person that loved the bass and another that was disappointed so I am a bit hesitant to blind buy this now as my main motivation was audio and bass in particular. Wish I could rent it, but Netflix doesn't have it.

Really enjoyed revisiting Knowing last night! Great audio all around as others have mentioned with some great bass moments. Enjoyed the movie as well since I had forgot most of it.

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I just finished watching both: "Admiral Roaring Current" (yesterday) and "Monsters Dark Continent" (now)...

1. Admiral Roaring Current:
It's well recorded and sound very good "IMO". Bass was ok in my humble cinema room.
The sound is well recorded but I'm all about the bass...it's ok but not enough for me.

2. Monsters Dark Continent:
Let me start with OMFG!
I have no idea why someone would say it's just ok.
It was AWESOME for me and rumbled my place...it doesn't go to the last octave maybe but it shock my place pretty good.
Again, I'm all about THE BASS and this will not disappoint.


ALSO...BONUS here:
It is maybe the best sounding track I have heard in a long while...The surrounds and center speaker have got to be the best I've ever heard in a movie.
I'm totally impressed with the sound effects in this movie. It is IMO one of the best sounding tracks I've ever heard...and it is plenty loud!!!

Again...this is just my opinion...I couldn't care less how good or bad a movie is rated...I want good sound and a boat load of bass!
This movie has a very low score and I see why to a certain degree...to me the acting was AWESOME!

I want more movies with this kind of sound with major authority!
My sincerest thanks to the person that mentioned this movie cause I would've never known and I'm sooo glad I saw this movie!!

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Thanks for the bass thoughts on Admiral Roaring Current guys. Anyone else seen this and care to give their impression of the low end? Seems we have one person that loved the bass and another that was disappointed so I am a bit hesitant to blind buy this now as my main motivation was audio and bass in particular. Wish I could rent it, but Netflix doesn't have it.

Really enjoyed revisiting Knowing last night! Great audio all around as others have mentioned with some great bass moments. Enjoyed the movie as well since I had forgot most of it.
Thanks for weighing in Toe. Glad you enjoyed KNOWING -- never can guarantee anyone is going to share impressions, but I was so pleasantly surprised, I felt compelled to offer my notions about it. Helps that it is a small expense as well. I blind buy all the time, just to reveal where I fall on this. Maybe spend $200 a month on blus -- that may be well over what others use discretion income for, so don't blind buy on my say so -- I have spent several decades assembling the system that gives me so much joy, so that shelling out increments for that which feeds it, not such a big deal, in my book. I would rather buy a disc for $12, than rent and spend time and money back and forth to REDBOX -- even if the movie is not everything it could be -- hey, sometimes it could be great, as with KNOWING!

My recommendation of Admiral was based in large part upon the overall effectiveness of the track as a whole, and the compelling cinematic presentation. Gorgeous to look at, and epic filmmaking to boot. The track features perhaps the longest sustained LF assault on film, possibly the TRANSFORMERS titles beat you up a little bit more, but I would call the latter fifty minutes or so of the production extremely bass-centric. I would agree it refrains from lowest-level bombardment, and as other reviewers have pointed out, keeps the impact in balance. I have gotten quite fatigued at the levels in TRANSFORMERS for the course of treatment, whereas with ADMIRAL, you are more engrossed in the onscreen happenings than considering shielding your ears, or going for the volume.

As always, cultivate multiple opinions, evaluate your budget, make your best choices -- some bound to play out to great satisfaction, others less so....
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I just finished watching both: "Admiral Roaring Current" (yesterday) and "Monsters Dark Continent" (now)...

1. Admiral Roaring Current:
It's well recorded and sound very good "IMO". Bass was ok in my humble cinema room.
The sound is well recorded but I'm all about the bass...it's ok but not enough for me.

2. Monsters Dark Continent:
Let me start with OMFG!
I have no idea why someone would say it's just ok.
It was AWESOME for me and rumbled my place...it doesn't go to the last octave maybe but it shock my place pretty good.
Again, I'm all about THE BASS and this will not disappoint.


ALSO...BONUS here:
It is maybe the best sounding track I have heard in a long while...The surrounds and center speaker have got to be the best I've ever heard in a movie.
I'm totally impressed with the sound effects in this movie. It is IMO one of the best sounding tracks I've ever heard...and it is plenty loud!!!

Again...this is just my opinion...I couldn't care less how good or bad a movie is rated...I want good sound and a boat load of bass!
This movie has a very low score and I see why to a certain degree...to me the acting was AWESOME!

I want more movies with this kind of sound with major authority!
My sincerest thanks to the person that mentioned this movie cause I would've never known and I'm sooo glad I saw this movie!!

Kind regards,
Thanks for all of that. One reason I got way over what I actually need for lower frequency reproduction, is that I glory in it -- wanted the house to cave in while the equipment was barely breaking a sweat. With my dual S2s I get that.

I might even favor the empanelling of a film commission which intercedes to rectify light bass in new releases, call it: THE LF-ATE HUMANKIND PROJECT, or some such thing. I want them to goose and juice that bottom until it single-digit hertz! -- and if that sounds vaguely pornographic, I guess that is what I'm after -- bass porn for the masses!

Admiral does not hit like something aimed at killing your ears, I agree, but the flavor I got of MONSTERS DARK CONTINENT from the trailer was that it was targeted to be sensational in that aspect -- thanks for confirming. Now for me, I have no trouble blind buying it on just that say so, especially as you compare it to ADMIRAL -- I'll probably have to adjust my subs down, but I'm all good with that....
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Thanks for all of that. One reason I got way over what I actually need for lower frequency reproduction, is that I glory in it -- wanted the house to cave in while the equipment was barely breaking a sweat. With my dual S2s I get that.

I might even favor the empanelling of a film commission which intercedes to rectify light bass in new releases, call it: THE LF-ATE HUMANKIND PROJECT, or some such thing. I want them to goose and juice that bottom until it single-digit hertz! -- and if that sounds vaguely pornographic, I guess that is what I'm after -- bass porn for the masses!

Admiral does not hit like something aimed at killing your ears, I agree, but the flavor I got of MONSTERS DARK CONTINENT from the trailer was that it was targeted to be sensational in that aspect -- thanks for confirming. Now for me, I have no trouble blind buying it on just that say so, especially as you compare it to ADMIRAL -- I'll probably have to adjust my subs down, but I'm all good with that....
If your dual s2's are enough for you, imagine sitting in Fatshaft's theater!

I too am a bass nut just like everyone else in this thread, and I am adding four more UXL 18's to my plethora of subs, so Monsters Dark Continent is going to have to wait until I get them and tune. Looking forward to it.
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I just finished watching both: "Admiral Roaring Current" (yesterday) and "Monsters Dark Continent" (now)...

1. Admiral Roaring Current:
It's well recorded and sound very good "IMO". Bass was ok in my humble cinema room.
The sound is well recorded but I'm all about the bass...it's ok but not enough for me.

2. Monsters Dark Continent:
Let me start with OMFG!
I have no idea why someone would say it's just ok.
It was AWESOME for me and rumbled my place...it doesn't go to the last octave maybe but it shock my place pretty good.
Again, I'm all about THE BASS and this will not disappoint.


ALSO...BONUS here:
It is maybe the best sounding track I have heard in a long while...The surrounds and center speaker have got to be the best I've ever heard in a movie.
I'm totally impressed with the sound effects in this movie. It is IMO one of the best sounding tracks I've ever heard...and it is plenty loud!!!

Again...this is just my opinion...I couldn't care less how good or bad a movie is rated...I want good sound and a boat load of bass!
This movie has a very low score and I see why to a certain degree...to me the acting was AWESOME!

I want more movies with this kind of sound with major authority!
My sincerest thanks to the person that mentioned this movie cause I would've never known and I'm sooo glad I saw this movie!!

Kind regards,
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If your dual s2's are enough for you, imagine sitting in Fatshaft's theater!

I too am a bass nut just like everyone else in this thread, and I am adding four more UXL 18's to my plethora of subs, so Monsters Dark Continent is going to have to wait until I get them and tune. Looking forward to it.
Hard to imagine, to be sure -- but I guess this casts light on your AVS handle! Already for me that amount of air movement creates pressure issues in my ears that requires "popping" them by plugging my nose -- felt like I was in the cabin for that plane sequence in KNOWING.

One sub is in back of my bed (my bedroom and home theater are one in the same), and if my pillow slips, I could knock myself out against the headboard. Even through the mattress, I bounce up and down like there were multiple bass shakers on the frame.

So yes, very hard to imagine anything beyond that -- as I say, I don't properly realize what others are experiencing in their theaters, just happy to report I'm finally satisfied with mine (...well, maybe just one more S2...another processor upgrade down the road...oh, bucket list: getting the best multi amp I ever heard ...looks like about another $10-$15K or so would do it -- HA!...)
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Thanks for weighing in Toe. Glad you enjoyed KNOWING -- never can guarantee anyone is going to share impressions, but I was so pleasantly surprised, I felt compelled to offer my notions about it. Helps that it is a small expense as well. I blind buy all the time, just to reveal where I fall on this. Maybe spend $200 a month on blus -- that may be well over what others use discretion income for, so don't blind buy on my say so -- I have spent several decades assembling the system that gives me so much joy, so that shelling out increments for that which feeds it, not such a big deal, in my book. I would rather buy a disc for $12, than rent and spend time and money back and forth to REDBOX -- even if the movie is not everything it could be -- hey, sometimes it could be great, as with KNOWING!

My recommendation of Admiral was based in large part upon the overall effectiveness of the track as a whole, and the compelling cinematic presentation. Gorgeous to look at, and epic filmmaking to boot. The track features perhaps the longest sustained LF assault on film, possibly the TRANSFORMERS titles beat you up a little bit more, but I would call the latter fifty minutes or so of the production extremely bass-centric. I would agree it refrains from lowest-level bombardment, and as other reviewers have pointed out, keeps the impact in balance. I have gotten quite fatigued at the levels in TRANSFORMERS for the course of treatment, whereas with ADMIRAL, you are more engrossed in the onscreen happenings than considering shielding your ears, or going for the volume.

As always, cultivate multiple opinions, evaluate your budget, make your best choices -- some bound to play out to great satisfaction, others less so....
I understand where you are coming from as I have slowly built my system up to where it's at for 13 years now (not that it's perfect or done, but I am overall very happy with it in it's current state). As time goes on though, what I have come to realize is most films I watch are not worth more than one spin and I have plenty of demo material so I am getting more cautious about what I buy as the $$$ adds up quick. I average between $1 and $2 per rental with Netflix depending on how fast my que moves at any given time of the year which makes much more sense to me vs buying nearly every title since as I mentioned most IMO are not worth more than one spin.

Thanks for the Admiral description. I might hold off for now and see if I can find it even cheaper on ebay at some point.

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I just finished watching both: "Admiral Roaring Current" (yesterday) and "Monsters Dark Continent" (now)...

1. Admiral Roaring Current:
It's well recorded and sound very good "IMO". Bass was ok in my humble cinema room.
The sound is well recorded but I'm all about the bass...it's ok but not enough for me.

2. Monsters Dark Continent:
Let me start with OMFG!
I have no idea why someone would say it's just ok.
It was AWESOME for me and rumbled my place...it doesn't go to the last octave maybe but it shock my place pretty good.
Again, I'm all about THE BASS and this will not disappoint.


ALSO...BONUS here:
It is maybe the best sounding track I have heard in a long while...The surrounds and center speaker have got to be the best I've ever heard in a movie.
I'm totally impressed with the sound effects in this movie. It is IMO one of the best sounding tracks I've ever heard...and it is plenty loud!!!

Again...this is just my opinion...I couldn't care less how good or bad a movie is rated...I want good sound and a boat load of bass!
This movie has a very low score and I see why to a certain degree...to me the acting was AWESOME!

I want more movies with this kind of sound with major authority!
My sincerest thanks to the person that mentioned this movie cause I would've never known and I'm sooo glad I saw this movie!!

Kind regards,
I know going off previous posts you and I have shared that we are both in the "bass fest preference" camp as we both prefer getting thoroughly beat up by the bottom end (I meant that the way it sounded ) and nearly ALL my favorite LFE experiences are of the bass fest type. In light of that, I think I will hold off on Roaring Current considering your comments.

Monsters Dark Continent also just shot to the top of my que based on your comments.
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Thanks for the bass thoughts on Admiral Roaring Current guys. Anyone else seen this and care to give their impression of the low end? Seems we have one person that loved the bass and another that was disappointed so I am a bit hesitant to blind buy this now as my main motivation was audio and bass in particular. Wish I could rent it, but Netflix doesn't have it.

Really enjoyed revisiting Knowing last night! Great audio all around as others have mentioned with some great bass moments. Enjoyed the movie as well since I had forgot most of it.
I have it queued up on Netflix.
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^^^Toe, I used to think in terms of demo material, but I don't really demo for anyone -- my extended family is out the door when it starts to get thick. My sister will not even sit down in the room anymore, and could not care less about sound quality, my brother has a home theater of his own. Other guests may tolerate it for 5-10 minutes, and you only need one good demo bit for that.

Repeat viewings are important still, perfectly understand that, but this is my main fun with discretional income dump, so I buy quite a bit -- which makes the fact that I buy and am happy, not so telling -- so sounds like you are forming an adequately realistic impression of SQ for your purposes.

As far as MONSTERS goes, yeah, dropped it off the buy list with the first viewer -- now, will blind buy in the next week or so...looking forward to that one -- would be nice if that trailer actually were representative of the flick itself -- that sort of thing might renew your faith in the film industry. Also, from what I saw of the trailer, I didn't expect that I would suffer the repugnance many critics fell under from what was presented -- looked quite on par to me, just as our friend, FATSHAFT, represented it...
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Mad Max was good in the theater. If you're wondering what the rest of the movie is like, it's basically the craziness seen in the trailers for two hours. Will definitely blind buy, but hoping it delivers in the bass dept[emoji106]🏼


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Says Unknown for me.
I just double checked. Looks like it only was put on 'save' with availability unknown. From my phone it's hard to tell sometimes when they have the info and gfx.
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2. Monsters Dark Continent:
Let me start with OMFG! ,
Damn! I got none of that DD5.1 was weak in my room
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Damn! I got none of that DD5.1 was weak in my room
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Watching the DD 5.1 and the surround sound is awesome.
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How are you guys watching Monsters Dark Continent? It shows that it doesn't come out on bluray until June 2nd.
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^^^That's what I wanted to know -- two reviews at opposite ends -- guess it would be instructive as to which version to avoid -- of course if the killer presentation is not on blu, I won't care about it anyway....
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There are blu-ray rips all over the internet, lol

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There are blu-ray rips all over the internet, lol

I know that. I don't download movies though. Are the blurays that you download lossless?
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