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Really Really! loved Monsters DC soundtrack and bass and Oh yeah this baby is mixed hot! and an average level of -20 or max -16db was loud enough to drive home a room shuttering experience.
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...Josh too. ...Very articulated outspoken person. ...He should post more, I truly think. ...And tell us more about the bass from the Blu-ray movies he watched. ...In addition to everything else. ...Lovely man, I learned from him.
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Picked up John Wick after all the positive feedback I read. Watched it last night and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Specifically, the club scene. I typically never go past -10 on the MV, but as soon as that scene ended I found myself wanting to watch it again at reference level. My subs were belting out some serious bass when he first walks into the locker room of the club and starts kicking a**. I was feeling each gun shot and my guests were grinning from ear to ear. Hell of a bargain for $12.99 at BB.
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♦ Me too; 'Run all Night' "resonated" real good in my system; gunshots and car chase and all. ...Bass impacting, and cool flick to boot.

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Really Really! loved Monsters DC soundtrack and bass and Oh yeah this baby is mixed hot! and an average level of -20 or max -16db was loud enough to drive home a room shuttering experience.
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Thanks, NorthSky!

I've been actively reading in the audio sections of AVS, and Josh is also quite active though spends more time in the video and calibration sections.
♦ Hi Enois, ...are you into Dolby Atmos and soon DTS:X?

* Josh I like him a lot; he ain't afraid to express his opinion. ...He should post much more often.

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♦ Hi eNoise, ...are you into Dolby Atmos and soon DTS:X?

* Josh I like him a lot; he ain't afraid to express his opinion. ...He should post much more often.

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Yeah, my humble theater is Dolby Atmos, in the 7.1.4 configuration via Denon X5200W. I would love to hear and compare DTS:X, but if Denon doesn't provide a firmware upgrade like they did for Auro 3D, forcing me into buying a new AVR, I'm afraid I might have to abandon that possibility.

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The Denon X5200W AV receiver is not part of the DTS:X firmware update deal, unfortunately...you'd need to purchase another AV receiver, and Josh too.

* I would never work with Josh; he's too good...I wouldn't be able to keep up to his level. ...It's more fun to read his posts and articles and reviews and learn from the man.
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♦ Did you mean 'Monsters, Inc.' ? ... Boo, the little girl in the living room...
No, I think he means Monsters: Dark Continent recently mentioned on this thread.
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Oh, that's what DC stands for. I guess it's only known to a cult of followers...never heard of it myself. ...Any good? ...The Blu-ray.
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Monsters: Dark Continent is the greatest most colossal and ear exploding mix ever committed to disc. DVD disc that is, sorry NS, this phenomenal bass behemoth is only available in lowly 448kbs DD.

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The Lazarus Effect



Not a particularly good movie or as scary as the filmmakers would like to imagine, but the bass was surprisingly deep and fun, reaching pretty low for a few creepy moments.

Thanks for posting up graph . Watched this tonight - Yes on the deep low stuff with volume! -some HUGH
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Monsters: Dark Continent is the greatest most colossal and ear exploding mix ever committed to disc. DVD disc that is, sorry NS, this phenomenal bass behemoth is only available in lowly 448kbs DD.
Better Bass than in 'Interstellar' ? ...@ least it ain't compressed. ...Didn't feel like it last time I went through it. ...Very openly dynamic, and couch screeching. ...Doors were opening by themselves as if ghosts had entered the room, and walls were melting as if heavy turbulence from outer space was taking place/residence next to my seat. ...Had to purchase new chrome steel plated chains for the dog house outside, so it wouldn't take off by lifting itself in mid air...the dog was freekin' out...big time...had to give him a brand new bone to tranquilize him.
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Oh yes, ever so astronomically superior to Interstellar, by light-years and parsecs. Shame that you have to miss out, it being only on DVD in DD.
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My Netflix rental was a blu ray with lossless audio. It's quite possibly the loudest mix ever, but definitely not among the best IMO. It's clearly compressed to my ears.
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My Netflix rental was a blu ray with lossless audio. It's quite possibly the loudest mix ever, but definitely not among the best IMO. It's clearly compressed to my ears.
Have not heard it nor care to because it evidently is indeed a nuked mix. I am just pulling NS chain.

On a bass note I love the mix found on Kung-Fu Panda, fantastic dynamics and awesome clean deep bass. Whereas another CG animated film, HTTYD is a great film but unfortunately is overcooked and has too much distortion.

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Not a particularly good movie or as scary as the filmmakers would like to imagine, but the bass was surprisingly deep and fun, reaching pretty low for a few creepy moments.

Just started this movie and I already know I am in for a bass treat even though I usually don't watch these types of movie alone.
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Have not heard it nor care to because it evidently is indeed a nuked mix. I am just pulling NS chain.

On a bass note I love the mix found on Kung-Fu Panda, fantastic dynamics and awesome clean deep bass. Whereas another CG animated film, HTTYD is a great film but unfortunately is overcooked and has too much distortion.

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I certainly agree with you on KFP, but not HTTYD which is one of the best bass/audio tracks on blu. 5 star extension/dynamics (on data-bass) and I have never noticed distortion on that track or seen any of the objective data suggest it is compressed/clipped. I would love to see some objective info to back up your claims if you have it though which would really surprise me since that track is pure reference to my ears.
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My Netflix rental was a blu ray with lossless audio. It's quite possibly the loudest mix ever, but definitely not among the best IMO. It's clearly compressed to my ears.
Yeah! this one has the high beams on for sure and I would put it at the opposite end of the finest examples of bass movies with dynamic range! insert here > _______ (if your answer is Oblivion good choice) but I enjoyed the room pounding nonetheless and did like the bass variation
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Yeah! this one has the high beams on for sure and I would put it at the opposite end of the finest examples of bass movies with dynamic range! insert here > _______ (if your answer is Oblivion good choice) but I enjoyed the room pounding nonetheless and did like the bass variation
I definitely enjoyed the bass as well!

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I definitely enjoyed the bass as well!
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Man, I was only planning on upgrading my 13 year old JBL speakers (to PSA 210s) and then that damn 3600 PSA sub hit at the preorder price and I was like "hey, might as well upgrade the 11 year old 12/2 Ultra while your at it!" AVS is dangerous for the wallet! I keep telling myself I am due for an upgrade though since the last audio upgrade I did was 6 years ago which is an eternity in this hobby! I haven't done any upgrades at all in 2.5 years, but those were all video related (2nd projector for 3d, video calibration meter/software and Lumagen mini VP). I deserve it, right?

Did watch American Sniper Fri night and thought bass was used well enough. Overall audio was fantastic.

We also went and saw the new Jurassic Park yesterday which was entertaining, but damn the theater we watched in literally had zero low end! I am looking forward to watching again when it hits blu for the bass experience which I hope is done well!

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Have not heard it nor care to because it evidently is indeed a nuked mix. I am just pulling NS chain.

On a bass note I love the mix found on Kung-Fu Panda, fantastic dynamics and awesome clean deep bass. Whereas another CG animated film, HTTYD is a great film but unfortunately is overcooked and has too much distortion.

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Httyd is one of cleanest lowest and deepest films out there. There is no distortion maybe it's your gear struggling?

But sorry your way off on your assessment of httyd
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When I can unbury my copy of HTTYD I'll give it another listen, the bass maybe clean but the main channels as I recall has some serious limiting and distortion; perhaps it is the EQ for the louder portions. That is what I am recalling more than anything else but if I can rip the audio and screencap the wave forms I will post them here.

In regards to my system I am reasonably certain that it is up to the task for my playback levels and room size. Definitely would like to have a two sub system but that wont be happening for a while, although I do have plans to build a subwoofer enclosure that I consider equal parts cool and humorous but I need to research further to understand whether I can install six woofers on each side of the cube.

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From database. Again one of the cleanest recorded tracks of all time no distortion to be found. How big is your room? And what levels you listening?!
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Monsters: Dark Continent is the greatest most colossal and ear exploding mix ever committed to disc. DVD disc that is, sorry NS, this phenomenal bass behemoth is only available in lowly 448kbs DD.
Ah! How clever. So you reveal the charade is yet another apparent attempt to demean and deride what others have found to their liking. And that in furtherance of a self-appointed mission to promote certain recording techniques, applications, and/or executions as somehow morally superior to others, and/or a clear example of "quality" versus the bamboozlement of the philistines.

And you have not even heard MONSTERS: DC for yourself. Plus one you have heard, which is fairly universally extolled, does not meet your conditions either. Might I gently suggest, now that your reference standard for playback has been revealed, that you simply recognize that what you are hearing is not what we are hearing.

ESPECIALLY given those tools to test a hypothesis, how it is you expect to prevail your audio ideology on the rest of us, is baffling in the extreme, I must say. Why not instead just allow that we all hear differently, do not share the same tastes even were we hearing the exact same thing, and leave those whose preferences might deviate from yours, in the contentment of their satiation, free from oppressive rhetoric and ridicule?

One reason I put forth selections here is precisely that they are not being talked about. They have not gotten notice or acclaim. Anything that has received major attention likely will not benefit appreciably from my adding comment, so I generally don't. So what I mention as a general rule are selections unheralded -- total unknown if they might float another's boat or not -- just sharing my impressions. Please feel free to take or leave the following:

This morning listening to my new amp, I dragged out a music bluray and was blown away by some of the low end on it: RETURN TO FOREVER RETURNS had some pretty deep moments. There are segments when Stanley Clarke is banging on his bass very aggressively that thump hard. And one section where Chick Corea has some section of his keyboard programmed to unleash these magnificent gushing lows -- impressive!
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Did watch American Sniper Fri night and thought bass was used well enough. Overall audio was fantastic.

We also went and saw the new Jurassic Park yesterday which was entertaining, but damn the theater we watched in literally had zero low end! I am looking forward to watching again when it hits blu for the bass experience which I hope is done well!
I hear ya! upgrades are beginning to suck as I hate down time and the plans can change on the fly! All it takes is one thought " Well ! while I'm at it I may as well !" I just finished switching out my pre/pro and Bluray player the value tanked and upgrading actually saved some coin in the long run due to that and that blasted single though! I went ahead and braved wiring the ceiling (that was some work and problem solving like no other) As things stand the check list is going well, bass done ( well maybe I'll get back to that one later)formats done! Only thing left is that front projector to match the killer sound I have going on now but finding it hard to part with my 73" Dlp but when HDR is finally in full swing its days will be numbered!
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As always, great to hear the impressions of those who care to listen. I thought it was great as well, and accept that when I hear that track characterized as "thin" -- well, some people aren't hearing what I heard, that is certain. I think everyone did agree though that it is LOUD! -- no doubt about that either!
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As always, great to hear the impressions of those who care to listen. I thought it was great as well, and accept that when I hear that track characterized as "thin" -- well, some people aren't hearing what I heard, that is certain. I think everyone did agree though that it is LOUD! -- no doubt about that either!
Its always a good time at the movies when a bass transient comes out of nowhere and make you run for cover Some scenes hit extremely hard! and had some good ELF, as I mentioned in another post, it had some great bass variation as well
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Well, there you have it -- I do like variety! -- all kinds of things might strike my fancy.
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I have unearthed my copy of HTTYD and I am pleased to admit that I was in error and recalled incorrectly my impressions of the mix and having listened to several quiet and bombastic scenes that demonstrates all the attributes of a high fidelity mix. Real clean dynamics in respects to transients -differences in loudness with truly quiet sound effects in contrast with awesome crescendos, no distortion, and clean deep prodigious bass.

Perhaps I was thinking of HTTYD 2 or another CG animated film for some reason. Mistakes happen I was wrong with HTTYD.

In summation my 'ideology' of quality high fidelity mixing remains intact but clearly my memory is proving to be a bit more faulty.

*Shakes fist futively in the air at the joys of being human and aging.

Anyhow the most recent title and mix I have enjoyed was Chappie. Overall dynamic, no distortion that I can recall, and some clean deep bass. Perhaps not the output behemoth some may prefer but I find it plentiful enough.

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