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Hi Guys,

I actually need some help. This might not be the right place but you all seem highly knowledgable on your Bass so maybe someone might be able to help me

Recently my AVR Onkyo 609 died (it was set up by AVR Home cinema specialist), it was running 5.1 B&W Speakers and Sub. I also had an amp running my CROWSONs transducers for two sofas.

When i bought my new AVR Onkyo TX-NR646 and set it up. I don't think I'm getting the same "correct" amount of Bass/Sofa Vibrations as i was getting before on quiter sounds.

I have setup my AVR doing the following:

Crossover for Subwoofer 120Hz and the speakers 80Hz each. Does that sound right? (I'm not sure what my old settings were).

One new setting i found on my AVR was Phase Matching Bass, its really great as it adds oomph to really low/quite sounds. Maybe like a door suddenly opening, i tried it with this and without and when using without you don't feel anything at all when the door opens in a scene from World War Z, however when this mode is on, you get a tiny judder which is very effective. However, the issue with setting this mode is that it adds way too much bass to the already loud/high sounds! Shaking up my whole house in some scenes! Hence, i thought maybe Off was the mode i should select for this! What do you think?

Is there any other way i can get the transducers to fire at those small sounds like the door opening but stay the same on the loud sounds like car crash etc...?

So the issue I'm having currently is that all loud and mid-loud sounds are fine, but I'm not getting any bass (and my transducers are not working) for the low quite sounds, that you just know should have bass but doesn't.

Its hard for me to exactly compare, but to me it feels as if i had bass and transducers working for those quite sounds with my old AVR.

The Subwoofer has a dial on the back (Phase something) and the transducers amplifier has another one for LPF. These dials have not been changed from my old AVR so they should not be causing the problem. Also my Amps volume (that is running the crowsons) is currently on full.

Any help with this please guys?

Thanks.
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Digler are you sure you had your subs on?
man hop, i'm starting to feel like you don't want to be friends with me.....

but of course i had my subs on! dual xv15se's which i know you are familiar with, and it sounded really good....i guess i'm just not understanding the excessive fanfare. it's no slouch by any means, but TIH it is not.

i guess now that you have a v3600i you are just too cool for the rest of us.
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Just picked up Jupiter Ascending on Blu-Ray from Red Box. Going to watch it in the morning. This should be a fun ride since I now have full reference capability down to 10Hz and below. Well, in the bass department anyway. Speakers are not quite there yet.
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man hop, i'm starting to feel like you don't want to be friends with me.....

but of course i had my subs on! dual xv15se's which i know you are familiar with, and it sounded really good....i guess i'm just not understanding the excessive fanfare. it's no slouch by any means, but TIH it is not.

i guess now that you have a v3600i you are just too cool for the rest of us.
Dirk, I reckon it's right up there with TIH damn it! It's not got a killer scene like Hulk vs Abomination or the pod emergence of WOTW but it's got huge hits, too many to mention, all the way throughout, more than both those movies have. For me the clean presentation (no clipping) just about seals the deal as the perfect bass movie. Full bandwidth the whole way too. I'm going to watch all three TIH, WOTW and JA back to back to see whether it stacks up but I'm confident it does. For content alone I put JA ahead but the other two have some killer scenes which JA doesn't have. All are top shelf so splitting hairs. In the end variables in setups will mean different experience for everyone but I'm a solid backer of JA being mentioned in the same sentence as any bass movie ever made.
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Jupiter Ascending has already earned its bass patch and has since moved on to needle point
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Dirk, I reckon it's right up there with TIH damn it! It's not got a killer scene like Hulk vs Abomination or the pod emergence of WOTW but it's got huge hits, too many to mention, all the way throughout, more than both those movies have. For me the clean presentation (no clipping) just about seals the deal as the perfect bass movie. Full bandwidth the whole way too. I'm going to watch all three TIH, WOTW and JA back to back to see whether it stacks up but I'm confident it does. For content alone I put JA ahead but the other two have some killer scenes which JA doesn't have. All are top shelf so splitting hairs. In the end variables in setups will mean different experience for everyone but I'm a solid backer of JA being mentioned in the same sentence as any bass movie ever made.
Wow! Same league as TIH? That is still probably my favorite bass film. Cant wait to watch JA tonight!

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