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post #21961 of 22609 Old 07-14-2015, 08:21 PM
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All this "Terminator:Salvation" talk reminds me of a similar argument about "Phantom" many pages ago. Everything old is new again only the names have changed.

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Just finished SpongeBob and it did not disappoint.
Some scenes really hit hard and with authority..Just wish it had more.

I quoted the above graph cause it's very embarrassing...it's the ending credits music
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PI,
I enjoyed it immensely...even the 2nd time around...

Some can't stand it (Like Brian) and that's totally fine.

It's like My best friend and I tried this new chocolate ice cream the other day...I loved it while he threw his in the garbage.
No problem...He's still my best friend !

If you hate it...don't worry...I won't take "anything" personally...it is 100% subjective


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I am using Bosso's settings.

I gave it a spin last night. The plot was all over the place and didn't really explain things well. I didn't know if the movie was more about monsters or more about the soldiers??? Doesn't matter though because the LFE was really good. Had my body shaking a lot and there was some really long ulf scenes too. I definitely enjoyed the bass.
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All this "Terminator:Salvation" talk reminds me of a similar argument about "Phantom" many pages ago. Everything old is new again only the names have changed.
Yes, similar, although more centered around imbedded clipping, in the earlier instance. As has been noted, the core issue is a variance in fundamental approaches/orientation to the watching/listening we do. Each path represents the life experience of the bass slam fan who was drawn here, and as such cannot ever be settled, only turned over and around and examined anew, every [insert time frame] or so. Like is there a "Heaven"?, except, getting a little closer, what is your audio heaven on Earth? -- that's why these forums exist, after all....
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I gave it a spin last night. The plot was all over the place and didn't really explain things well. I didn't know if the movie was more about monsters or more about the soldiers??? Doesn't matter though because the LFE was really good. Had my body shaking a lot and there was some really long ulf scenes too. I definitely enjoyed the bass.
I think another reviewer pointed out that the director didn't seem to know what kind of a movie he wanted to make, almost as if he had some stored up messages about war and the monsters it makes us, but this was the project he got offered, so tried to make it fit his objectives.

Nevertheless, I was surprised at the ambition of tackling something a little deeper, even if a pretty well-worn standard theme, where it could have been your standard Z-grade direct-to-video monster romp. The technical achievement was impressive as well -- looked a lot better than many more fully funded efforts. And the bass paid off...which, truth be told, is pretty much the reason it had the appeal it did -- without that....well, you answer for yourself...
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Went to see Ant man last night and went to a newly renovated IMAX nearby. First of all, the theater itself was a shocker for me. i could actually feel some of the bass in the theater, and the leather individual recliners were unbelievably comfortable. it was also set up for atmos which was my first experience with that format. certainly immersive, but i can't say i felt like sounds were being "placed" in certain areas. maybe better execution in a smaller area such as a HT. overall though, i was very impressed with the whole experience. it's still no comparison to watching in my living room, but it was definitely leaps and bounds better than any other commercial theater that i've experienced.

as far as the movie, i'm a marvel/dc movie nut, and i wasn't overly excited for ant man. i was never thrilled with him in the comics, and i thought this was going to be a dud of a movie. to my surprise, it was a really fun ride and held my attention from beginning to end. as far as the audio goes, it could be a good one when it hits blu. nothing over the top as far as LFE, but it had a few moments of decent boom. it will be interesting to see how it translates, but i went from thinking i MIGHT purchase this blu, to a definite buy for me. i think some of the scenes will shake the room pretty nice when applied in a decent HT.
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I often feel the bass in my local IMAX, if the mixer wants you to feel the bass you will.
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well, first of all it was my first movie in an imax....so i was comparing to a standard theater where it's rare. and it might be in the mix, but feeling in a theater isn't a given. there have been plenty of times it felt waayyy different in my HT.
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Went to see Ant man last night and went to a newly renovated IMAX nearby. First of all, the theater itself was a shocker for me. i could actually feel some of the bass in the theater, and the leather individual recliners were unbelievably comfortable. it was also set up for atmos which was my first experience with that format. certainly immersive, but i can't say i felt like sounds were being "placed" in certain areas. maybe better execution in a smaller area such as a HT. overall though, i was very impressed with the whole experience. it's still no comparison to watching in my living room, but it was definitely leaps and bounds better than any other commercial theater that i've experienced.

as far as the movie, i'm a marvel/dc movie nut, and i wasn't overly excited for ant man. i was never thrilled with him in the comics, and i thought this was going to be a dud of a movie. to my surprise, it was a really fun ride and held my attention from beginning to end. as far as the audio goes, it could be a good one when it hits blu. nothing over the top as far as LFE, but it had a few moments of decent boom. it will be interesting to see how it translates, but i went from thinking i MIGHT purchase this blu, to a definite buy for me. i think some of the scenes will shake the room pretty nice when applied in a decent HT.
Our 2 local Atmos theaters have Buttkicker transducers in the seats, your theater might have them too.
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Well subjectively i disagree in their assessment. If it's shown in graph it HAS to be very low level. But I could be wrong. Have been in the past. But I usually am very good at subjectively telling if there is sub 20hz which is then backed up by graphs

But until I see the spec lab I don't beleive it will have a rating for lower than 20hz. Tons of movies have content to 1hz. But 98% of them it's not detectable because it's so low in level
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And I was partly right.

Low levels. And content below 20 but mostly dc.

This was before I started bumping the lfe 3db with low level movies. Will have to revisit
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And I was partly right.

Low levels. And content below 20 but mostly dc.

This was before I started bumping the lfe 3db with low level movies. Will have to revisit

What does your setup consist of? Decoupled floor or concrete?

I have 12 sealed subs on the second floor of my house and I can immediately tell if there is sub 10hz content in a movie. I have to give a lot of the credit to being on the second floor though.
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And I was partly right.

Low levels. And content below 20 but mostly dc.

This was before I started bumping the lfe 3db with low level movies. Will have to revisit
Low levels I'll give you, but to me, plenty of content above dc and below 20 Hz. I know that feeling when the Buttkickers kick in. How'd you like DOFP? I was not impressed with that at all because of its low levels. Just goes to show how a person's setup/preference makes a big difference.
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Low levels I'll give you, but to me, plenty of content above dc and below 20 Hz. I know that feeling when the Buttkickers kick in. How'd you like DOFP? I was not impressed with that at all because of its low levels. Just goes to show how a person's setup/preference makes a big difference.
I thought dofp was phenomenal


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How interesting....Gary supports the spongebob movie.....insider at work here? I smell conspiracy to sell more disks! What is the snail's name again?
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Ahhhhh so your cheating (w the buttkickers)
See, that's what I mean. Lol. Both have almost identical levels and Chappie has a little more extension. It certainly won't be challenging any of the heavy hitters, but I could definitely feel ULF in there. Just as with Elysium, the gunshots were sorely lacking.

Yep, I double cheat cuz I have TWO buttkickers on my couch, along with 5-6 hz extension. If the Super Bowl Champs can get away with cheating, why can't I? Lol.
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No nothing wrong with them. I used to have them. Just meant cheating to hear/feel the subterranean tones and it was in jest
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Some kids movies are really enjoyable to watch. Others you just tolerate because you love your kids. This one is much worse than that.
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Anyone watch the movie Enemy on Amazon prime with Jake Gyllenhaal. Did not expect the bass that was in this movie. Not a good movie and the base is here or there. But it knocked stuff down in my house.

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I've heard that the Finding Nemo fish tank scene is a good demo, but I don't have the Blu Ray. I do have it on DVD....wonder how much difference, if any, there will be on that scene? I need to dig it out of the attic and try it out.
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I've heard that the Finding Nemo fish tank scene is a good demo, but I don't have the Blu Ray. I do have it on DVD....wonder how much difference, if any, there will be on that scene? I need to dig it out of the attic and try it out.
It's my all time favorite demo scene
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I've heard that the Finding Nemo fish tank scene is a good demo, but I don't have the Blu Ray. I do have it on DVD....wonder how much difference, if any, there will be on that scene? I need to dig it out of the attic and try it out.

That is only a 30hz scene if I am not mistaken, and it is very short. A great scene to demo is half way through chapter 10 in Underworld Awakening. That scene is great for beating up your guests!
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That is only a 30hz scene if I am not mistaken, and it is very short. A great scene to demo is half way through chapter 10 in Underworld Awakening. That scene is great for beating up your guests!
It's not THAT short. And although centered at 30 Hz (as is underworld scene) it also has the backing of much lower bass. Notice the VERY strong 5hz content

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I've heard that the Finding Nemo fish tank scene is a good demo, but I don't have the Blu Ray. I do have it on DVD....wonder how much difference, if any, there will be on that scene? I need to dig it out of the attic and try it out.
DVD or blu, its great either way! Mix was subjectively the exact same between the dvd/blu.
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15 seconds is really short for a demo compared to a few minutes that the U:A scene is. Yes that movie has a lot of 30hz content, but it extends down to 1hz.

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Level - 5 Stars (113.57dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)
Dynamics - 3 Stars (23.13dB)
Execution - 5 Stars - This film is very much like Tron:Legacy without the clipping.

Overall - 4.5 Stars

Where is Finding Nemo? I couldn't find it and I thought that DB had it before.
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Finding Nemo (7.1 TrueHD)

Level - 4 Stars (111.04dB composite)
Extension - 5 Stars (1Hz)
Dynamics - 5 Stars (31.38dB)
Execution - 4 Stars (by poll)

Overall - 4.5 Stars

Only "edge" I give to nemo for demo is its family friendly. And just gives the "this is rediculous" feeling hahah
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