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By the way, all of this false dichotomy talk...my system is not the best, no doubt about that -- represents only a little over $100K in electronics and speakers alone, but I do consider it quite adequate to accurately convey the flavor of a track....

How is your room treated? 100k in electronics and speakers means nothing if your room is not treated for it. I bet your room has been though because you have spent some major coin on your setup. How did you eq your system? That kinda matters too. Do you have a thread on it?
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In the meantime, there are those of us who want some objective, factual data about LFE content to base our decisions on. If you don't like this, too bad, post elsewhere imo.


The "objective" bass data group started their own thread over at Gilligan's Island. Maybe you should join the "objective group" so you can post elsewhere?


I don't see many SL waterfalls being shown on this thread these days. Maybe you should present some new "objective bass data" on this thread via some new SL waterfalls. Plenty of bad waterfalls used to be posted over at Gilligan's Island, but things are pretty slow over there these days.
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100k in electronics and speakers?!?

Lol. Let me guess 1000$ cables?
True to form, looks like you simply cannot steer clear of personal mockery. I'll just let that pass with a simple noting of it, and answer that if you read what I posted, and it seems you did as you repeat "electronics and speakers," that would not include cables, interconnects, room treatments, or even anything having to do with the visual side. The estimate for sound reproduction gear is conservative, and cables come from MONOPRICE, just to respond as if your inquiry were sincere.
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True to form, looks like you simply cannot steer clear of personal mockery. I'll just let that pass with a simple noting of it, and answer that if you read what I posted, and it seems you did as you repeat "electronics and speakers," that would not include cables, interconnects, room treatments, or even anything having to do with the visual side. The estimate for sound reproduction gear is conservative, and cables come from MONOPRICE, just to respond as if your inquiry were sincere.
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True to form, looks like you simply cannot steer clear of personal mockery. I'll just let that pass with a simple noting of it, and answer that if you read what I posted, and it seems you did as you repeat "electronics and speakers," that would not include cables, interconnects, room treatments, or even anything having to do with the visual side. The estimate for sound reproduction gear is conservative, and cables come from MONOPRICE, just to respond as if your inquiry were sincere.

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How is your room treated? 100k in electronics and speakers means nothing if your room is not treated for it. I bet your room has been though because you have spent some major coin on your setup. How did you eq your system? That kinda matters too. Do you have a thread on it?
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Has the movie Star Trek Nemesis ever been graphed? The ending battle sequence seems to have lots of loud bass but I can't tell how low it goes.
Not considered the deepest bass out there but I as well find it to deliver a significant punch Check over at Data bass for graphs.
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Soon the bass drought will be over
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Eymach, people can feel free to have an opinion about how great any movie soundtrack is, regardless of whether it actually is or not. That's your point, we get it. You are correct. You have won the internet.

Some people want objective, factual data about a movies LFE content. Those who have full bandwidth, reference capable systems might not want to spend their time or money on a film that someone with a Bose system thought was amazing that might only have content down to 40 Hz. Did the person with the Bose system think the film was the greatest LFE bass fest they every heard? Maybe so. Does that mean that it is truly a great LFE flick with lots of great content all the way down to 10 Hz or lower, great mid bass slam and everything in between? Maybe not.

Whether you think so or not, it is ok to have some factual data concerning LFE content. Does not matter what your opinion is in this regard. The same can be said for anything. If the only way we rated automobile performance was subjective impressions, kids driving a Honda Civic Si for the first time would rave about how amazingly fast the car is, even though, based on facts, it is a very slow car compared to truly fast models in production.

It is ok to have subjective opinions about things. That being the case, feel free to start your own thread about rating things purely subjectively. You can spend all your money and time purchasing films that people listening to their TV speakers thought were amazing.

In the meantime, there are those of us who want some objective, factual data about LFE content to base our decisions on. If you don't like this, too bad, post elsewhere imo.

While I generally agree with you, this particular thread has always had BOTH objective and subjective data, talk and discussion. If all one cares about is objective, we have the great data-bass for that. Subjective impressions won't stop in this thread as some of us actually enjoy that aspect even if it is not technically accurate. I personally see a lot of value in both objective and subjective which is again what this thread has always been about.
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'Furious 7' brings the Bass! Lots of it
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Best way to stave of the bass drought and no water won't help

Rather try this



Got mine in DVD Audio years back! The bass you ask? Impeccable! gives me chills just hearing the incredible timing and precision (if you don't what pitch definition is , play "Brothers in arms") of it

Oh yeah it qualifies as its got pictures on the screen

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Got mine in DVD Audio years back! The bass you ask? Impeccable! gives me chills just hearing the incredible timing and precision (if you don't what pitch definition is , play "Brothers in arms") of it

Oh yeah it qualifies as its got pictures on the screen

+1000! Still in my top 3 favorite multichannel music discs! Reference recording/mix all the way.

Have you heard Division Bell in 5.1 audiofan? Another stunner!
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+1000! Still in my top 3 favorite multichannel music discs! Reference recording/mix all the way.

Have you heard Division Bell in 5.1 audiofan? Another stunner!
No sir but will order it! thanks for the heads up I may as well (yes still to my shame) get Dark side of the moon yeah,yeah!! I remember last time we discussed it
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I thought it was anemic and weak, personally. Just like all the others, with the exception of Tokyo Drift. Extension seemed lacking and plenty of moments where you expect real bass and got weak sauce. I remarked to my brother that this could have been a great bass movie, with all the explosions, crashes, etc.
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No sir but will order it! thanks for the heads up I may as well (yes still to my shame) get Dark side of the moon yeah,yeah!! I remember last time we discussed it
The only way to get the blu ray audio of the DB in 5.1 is through buying the super pricey box set which sucks, BUT they released a DVD with a high bit rate DTS 5.1 track (@ 1509) which has been confirmed on quadraphonicquad.com to be the EXACT same mix as the blu ray and it sounds absolutely incredible! I'm telling you, at $15 this is the biggest no brainer if you like Floyd to any degree and are a fan of high quality recording/mixing. Here is the link.....


http://shop.pinkfloyd.com/browse-by-...1-mix-dvd.html

More opinions.....

http://www.quadraphonicquad.com/foru...D-DTS-DD/page5

And here......

Pink Floyed Division Bell

IMO, it is one of the best audio experiences in my collection, period! I was always just luke warm to this album in stereo, but hearing it in 5.1 feels like that is how it is meant to be heard and takes the whole album to a new level.

I like the actual albums of Dark Side and Wish You Were Here more, BUT the Division Bell recording and 5.1 mix is superior to either of those (which are still great!). For recording/mix, I would rank them....

1. Division Bell
2. WYWH
3. DSOTM quad 4.0
4. DSOTM 5.1


All 4 are must owns though if you even like Floyd at all and are a fan of multichannel music.
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The only way to get the blu ray audio of the DB in 5.1 is through buying the super pricey box set which sucks, BUT they released a DVD with a high bit rate DTS 5.1 track (@ 1509) which has been confirmed on quadraphonicquad.com to be the EXACT same mix as the blu ray and it sounds absolutely incredible! I'm telling you, at $15 this is the biggest no brainer if you like Floyd to any degree and are a fan of high quality recording/mixing. Here is the link.....


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IMO, it is one of the best audio experiences in my collection, period! I was always just luke warm to this album in stereo, but hearing it in 5.1 feels like that is how it is meant to be heard and takes the whole album to a new level.

I like the actual albums of Dark Side and Wish You Were Here more, BUT the Division Bell recording and 5.1 mix is superior to either of those (which are still great!). For recording/mix, I would rank them....

1. Division Bell
2. WYWH
3. DSOTM quad 4.0
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All 4 are must owns though if you even like Floyd at all and are a fan of multichannel music.

I'm drooling your a gem !


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While I generally agree with you, this particular thread has always had BOTH objective and subjective data, talk and discussion. If all one cares about is objective, we have the great data-bass for that. Subjective impressions won't stop in this thread as some of us actually enjoy that aspect even if it is not technically accurate. I personally see a lot of value in both objective and subjective which is again what this thread has always been about.
I can agree with this...I may have misstated my opinion about the subject. I think subjective impressions do have their place. For me personally I just want some objective data to go with it, so I think both are good. It has been mentioned a couple of times that some extremely well rated movies might not score as well subjectively due to a lack of overall quantity, and this makes a lot of sense. A movie with tons of bass that may only go down to 30 or 20 Hz might be more enjoyable, regardless of system capability, than a movie with a little bit of 2 Hz content here and there.

I actually need to re-watch quite a few titles since most of what I have watched in the last year or two was prior to switching to sealed subs. Will be interesting to note the difference. Watched a little bit of Maggie last night. I could not tell how low it went because I had to watch at low volume(-30 to -25) with family and late at night. But it seemed like there was a lot of ....background bass used to augment mood or whatever. Seemed like it was unsettling my dog.
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I can agree with this...I may have misstated my opinion about the subject. I think subjective impressions do have their place. For me personally I just want some objective data to go with it, so I think both are good. It has been mentioned a couple of times that some extremely well rated movies might not score as well subjectively due to a lack of overall quantity, and this makes a lot of sense. A movie with tons of bass that may only go down to 30 or 20 Hz might be more enjoyable, regardless of system capability, than a movie with a little bit of 2 Hz content here and there.

I actually need to re-watch quite a few titles since most of what I have watched in the last year or two was prior to switching to sealed subs. Will be interesting to note the difference. Watched a little bit of Maggie last night. I could not tell how low it went because I had to watch at low volume(-30 to -25) with family and late at night. But it seemed like there was a lot of ....background bass used to augment mood or whatever. Seemed like it was unsettling my dog.
Haha. I watched it last night. I think it went very low

Tons of low rumble throughout to increase tension. Cool take on zombies too
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I thought it was anemic and weak, personally. Just like all the others, with the exception of Tokyo Drift. Extension seemed lacking and plenty of moments where you expect real bass and got weak sauce. I remarked to my brother that this could have been a great bass movie, with all the explosions, crashes, etc.
AAAHHH another polarizing track

I agree that extension seemed lacking, but what it brings it brings in spades. I suspect it centers around 20-25hz with a few dips below that. Other than that, the bass is clean and plentiful. The use of surrounds is also very well done, reminded me of 'Rush' in so many ways.
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Not considered the deepest bass out there but I as well find it to deliver a significant punch Check over at Data bass for graphs.
Thank you. Actually, I checked Data Bass but didn't see this film on the list.
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What is it? Don't leave us hanging.
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