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post #22231 of 22555 Old 08-09-2015, 10:50 AM
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Before the Atmos intro was done people were already telling me to "turn it down" Had to turn it down to 1/20th power of 43kW for them to not get blasted, and even then there was still crazy bass.
You probably just didn't have it loud enough.

There was crazy bass in it all the way to 15hz or maybe even single digits.
The burning mom scene had some good stuff in it.
I like the ATMOS demo clip in the beginning. Even though I don't have ATMOS, the demo still sounds great.
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Before the Atmos intro was done people were already telling me to "turn it down" Had to turn it down to 1/20th power of 43kW for them to not get blasted, and even then there was still crazy bass.
You probably just didn't have it loud enough.

Do you also travel back in time?? At 43kw I would think the bass would be insane!
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Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I fell asleep before that scene I'll have to go back and watch it, lol
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I fell asleep before that scene I'll have to go back and watch it, lol
None of the bass scenes woke you up?
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I fell asleep before that scene I'll have to go back and watch it, lol
You are clearly lacking bass...upgrade comes to mind
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Na bass soothes me and makes me sleepy .. like a massage chair haha
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Dayum....Blind buy...
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Guess I know where I'm headed after work...

Blind buy and I didn't even see the first one!

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Guys don't drool too much. Here isn't much content at all in the first 1:15 minutes. There are only a couple scenes were the bass is legit. Just want to warn you ahead of time
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Or nothing at all ever if you go rent it.

You have to get the retail version to get that bass.

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Or nothing at all ever if you go rent it.

You have to get the retail version to get that bass.
Such BS.
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Or nothing at all ever if you go rent it.

You have to get the retail version to get that bass.
Right Scott, did the Redbox with girls last night, and did not get much, will have to look elsewhere. Thanks!

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Chart of the rental vs retail version would be a good datapoint.
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Guys don't drool too much. Here isn't much content at all in the first 1:15 minutes. There are only a couple scenes were the bass is legit. Just want to warn you ahead of time
Brian is right!
That scene is awesome and there's another one around the 1:40:00 mark but not much more that's like those ones
Oh and i enjoyed the 1:28:00 mark at least 20 times now!

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I'm looking forward to see this one...

Thanks Fats
Viewed this tonight
Sounds as good as it graphs
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Seems to be some disagreement on whether Insurgent is a true bass monster or just has some good scenes with great bass.

Looks like I need to put Insurgent on the list of my next movies to watch.
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I have a question. I see some are saying that the rental version of Insurgent and the Retail version of Insurgent are different regarding bass.

Is this legit regarding rental and retail versions of movies? Or is this just one of those rumors that go around these threads? Is there a graph comparing the two versions (where this has occurred) floating around somewhere to verify that they release two versions of blu-ray discs with different mixes, one with good bass and one without?


I'm not trying to stir up a debate, I'm genuinely curious.
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^^ I believe rental versions don't have the Atmos track; but I can't be sure as there's nowhere around where I live with rental discs available.

I believe the Atmos mix (or the 7.1 TrueHD) on these discs is where the bass is; but again I'm only guessing.

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I have a question. I see some are saying that the rental version of Insurgent and the Retail version of Insurgent are different regarding bass.

Is this legit regarding rental and retail versions of movies? Or is this just one of those rumors that go around these threads? Is there a graph comparing the two versions (where this has occurred) floating around somewhere to verify that they release two versions of blu-ray discs with different mixes, one with good bass and one without?


I'm not trying to stir up a debate, I'm genuinely curious.
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I have a question. I see some are saying that the rental version of Insurgent and the Retail version of Insurgent are different regarding bass.

Is this legit regarding rental and retail versions of movies? Or is this just one of those rumors that go around these threads? Is there a graph comparing the two versions (where this has occurred) floating around somewhere to verify that they release two versions of blu-ray discs with different mixes, one with good bass and one without?


I'm not trying to stir up a debate, I'm genuinely curious.
Fatshaft posted these graphs on DB which showed a different mix was used for rentals (DD5.1).
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And this is why I will never rent again...

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And this is why I will never rent again...
You mean Lionsgate rentals as they are the number one offender , its a love hate relationship, as they do embrace new codecs but won't let you have'em less ye buy
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And this is why I will never rent again...
I listen to ONLY DTSHD-MA or TRUEHD audio soundtracks.
I'm shocked to see such a difference between tracks.

I "will" be doing more tests like this in the future to see if any differences between tracks exist.
I cannot test the graphs that my Chinese contact gets me
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You mean Lionsgate rentals as they are the number one offender , its a love hate relationship, as they do embrace new codecs but won't let you have'em less ye buy
Not always true though

Just rented gunman and it had atmos
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^^ I believe rental versions don't have the Atmos track; but I can't be sure as there's nowhere around where I live with rental discs available.

I believe the Atmos mix (or the 7.1 TrueHD) on these discs is where the bass is; but again I'm only guessing.

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And this is why I will never rent again...
I will continue to rent, just not Lionsgate when they give us lossy audio since this could mean a different mix like Insurgent has.
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Fatshaft posted these graphs on DB which showed a different mix was used for rentals (DD5.1).
Well that just really sucks! Absolutely ridiculous that they would do this.
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Don't know what to think anymore after doing these 2 others.
I almost fell like doing every single language that's available to see ALL the differences but this is time consuming

Anyways...
Just to make this clear...the DD5.1 graphs are the FRENCH 5.1
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