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post #22411 of 25650 Old 08-20-2015, 02:49 PM
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I think there is more at play than a simple level difference, at least as far as why I strongly prefer HB2. I would bet both general bass execution and bass quantity are a bit better on HB2. Even if it is simply a level difference, I never grade a bass track on how good I can make it through tweaking, I judge it as it is. As it stands, for whatever reason, HB2 is clearly in a different league overall vs EoT for LFE IMO.
It has more deep bass, plus plenty of 30 Hz content, which is in that "slam" range.
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Its also how the bass lines up with what is actually happening on the screen.

EOT has a lot of redundant footage so the same effect gets played over and over. Also EOT has so much going on in a battlefield environment that I actually felt it could have done with more bass.

These are just my subjective impressions of it from more of an artistic perspective of course.
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Can you please share how you determine the level differences? I've seen this a few times and can't figure out how members find this information.

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There is a dB scale on the chart on the right hand side. The red line is from -45 to -55 from 30 to 10hz for HB2 and from -50 to -60 from 30 to 10 hz for EOT.
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It has more deep bass, plus plenty of 30 Hz content, which is in that "slam" range.

Makes sense. EoT definitely did not have that same thickness (if I had to describe it) and slam factor like you mention.

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Its also how the bass lines up with what is actually happening on the screen.

EOT has a lot of redundant footage so the same effect gets played over and over. Also EOT has so much going on in a battlefield environment that I actually felt it could have done with more bass.

These are just my subjective impressions of it from more of an artistic perspective of course.

Exactly and I could not agree more. This is what I meant by the bass execution being better in HB2. The graphs don't tell you how the bass that is there lines up with the on-screen action and you actually have to view the film to evaluate that. As you mention, it could have used a bit more bass with all that hectic action going on and I felt they erred on the conservative side a bit (which obviously some people liked which is fine of course).

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Hellboy 2 has less dynamic range, more compression applied to it so yes it is loud but I find it fatiguing and not as impressive.

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Hellboy 2 has less dynamic range, more compression applied to it so yes it is loud but I find it fatiguing and not as impressive.

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Hellboy 2 scored a 5/5 for dynamics.
And is also slightly MORE dynamic than EOT.
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Just got back from Golf and see this nice discussion...

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I put this for the ones who are blind and can't see the release date clearly written SEPTEMBER 4th!
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Hi Fatshaft,

wondering how's the WOTW, Tron & TIH graphs looks like?
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Hi Fatshaft,

wondering how's the WOTW, Tron & TIH graphs looks like?
I will have TIH and Tron but I don't have WOTW

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If EOT is a 5star movie then Mad Max is a no brainer

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Is there another film more controversial than EOT for its rating? Was ranked a bees dick behind CATWS in the 2014 "Bass film of the year" poll on Data Bass and subsequently rated higher after voting closed making it unofficially the bass film of the year last year. This all means nothing of course but plenty of people like the bass in it. Throw in all other variables not represented in the graphs and it's easy to see why opinions differ but happen to be more so for EOT. I liked it probably more for its clean presentation than its quantity. I would say many more films best it in my collection but not in 2014.
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Hey guys sorry for changing the subject but I saw a certain discussion in here last week and had a couple of questions.
For the record I have 2 Fv15hp subs from Rythmik, beautiful bass machines. I have followed this thread for 2 years and my Amazon cart has you gentlemen to thank for staying busy.
The discussion I'm referring to is ATMOS blurays... I did a little research and from what I can tell it's some magic trick Dolby is throwing at us to make sound come from the ceiling via reflection or 9.1 systems with ceiling speakers. Am I missing something? Why is it important to find blurays with an ATMOS track if I have a 5.2 system...are the mixes really that different and in favor of more bass and better overall sound? Do bluray rentals really not have the same soundtrack as retail? I saw the graphs in here and it seems like it is hit or miss... just trying to figure out if I need to be looking for something besides the word 'bluray' when I'm looking for a bass monster movie....
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Fury Road stomps all over EoT looking at that comparison graph. Cant wait to check it out!
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Yes indeed if the graph is any indication Fury Road looks fantastic. Does roll off on the lower end though according to previous spec lab scene caps.
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Fury Road doesn't hit the deepest depths, but man is that a fun LFE ride. Powerful, plentiful bass in tons of scenes.
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I put this for the ones who are blind and can't see the release date clearly written SEPTEMBER 4th!
September 4 for the USA theatrical release; I was looking for the US Blu-ray release. ...For listening to it @ home, in our own comfort zone with the best audio coming out of our subs. ...I strictly look for Blus, nothing else.

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Fury Road stomps all over EoT looking at that comparison graph. Cant wait to check it out!
I suspect this will suffer the same fate as TIH--will suffer in the ratings on dynamics. The bass is non-stop.
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The Admiral: lots of bass and cheese to go with it. Hits hard but could have had more variety. Didn't really like the movie much.
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I suspect this will suffer the same fate as TIH--will suffer in the ratings on dynamics. The bass is non-stop.
Being the bass fest guy I am, that just gets me more excited! Data bass is a great rating system, but I've always considered that particular aspect of it a flaw. The fact that the #1 best bass film overall (IMO) gets punished for having too much bass is silly.
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Being the bass fest guy I am, that just gets me more excited! Data bass is a great rating system, but I've always considered that particular aspect of it a flaw. The fact that the #1 best bass film overall (IMO) gets punished for having too much bass is silly.
Agreed. And yes it has flaws. But I'll take its flaws over the way the list in the first page of this thread is compiled hahah
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Agreed. And yes it has flaws. But I'll take its flaws over the way the list in the first page of this thread is compiled hahah
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TIH has the best bass mix for sure. No clipping, just clean deep, loud, and a lot of it in all of the badwidth. I am a really huge fan of Underworld Awakening too!
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TIH has the best bass mix for sure. No clipping, just clean deep, loud, and a lot of it in all of the badwidth. I am a really huge fan of Underworld Awakening too!
I LOVE UA. Just goes to show I am a lover of all great loud bass. UA is centered around 30hz with a little low stuff playing a supporting roll But very clean when that super lycan comes out
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I LOVE UA. Just goes to show I am a lover of all great loud bass. UA is centered around 30hz with a little low stuff playing a supporting roll But very clean when that super lycan comes out
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I LOVE UA. Just goes to show I am a lover of all great loud bass. UA is centered around 30hz with a little low stuff playing a supporting roll But very clean when that super lycan comes out
That very scene is one of my go to scene for demos and for after a tuning session. I usually hit that one up first because I am so familiar with it and then go to TIH fight scene at the end. Throw in a few scenes like the monument scene in Olympus has Fallen and the grenade scene in WWZ.
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Yeah, the Super Lycan scene is one of my favorites as well! I've used that for demo quite a bit.
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