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I really don't know why you'd say such a thing.
It is NOWHERE near WOTW!

How is the bass quantity factor in this one? I remember watching/liking the film years ago, but watched it on a TV with no audio system.
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How is the bass quantity factor in this one? I remember watching/liking the film years ago, but watched it on a TV with no audio system.
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I was trying to go easy on the OP. We know there's no comparison to WOTW with this film but, yep I'm still curious on the bass on a capable system being that the OP brought it up.
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I loved the SK book, but never watched the movie. I will definitely have to add that to acquisition list...
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If it's the one I'm thinking about with Thomas Jane and taking place in the supermarket.... if so, yes, that's a good one! Haven't watched it in ages. The ending is like
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I really don't know why you'd say such a thing.
It is NOWHERE near WOTW!
Perhaps I should've been clearer, I know the levels are nowhere near but after turning the sub-level up a few dBs for the The Mist I felt the quality and cinematic use of the LFE rivalled WoTW. My system only gets down to 16-18Hz realistically so there might be a whole load of content in WoTW I'm completely missing.

As a film, I think its much better than WoTW, honestly I only watch WoTW for the bass, its not a great film to actually watch, but The Mist is an excellent film regardless of bass, despite the poor quality CG effects compared to WoTW. Especially the ending, very few film makers have the balls for such a hard hitting and dark ending but I found it almost 'refreshing' because of how unexpected it was whereas most modern films are pretty predictable and would never dare to not have a happy ending.

Quite a few of King's novels and stories have been adapted to film and nearly all are excellent, some are among IMDBs top films. Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile, Lawnmower Man, The Running Man, Maximum Overdrive and The Shining to name just a few.

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That was you going easy? Huh....

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Perhaps I should've been clearer, I know the levels are nowhere near but after turning the sub-level up a few dBs for the The Mist I felt the quality and cinematic use of the LFE rivalled WoTW. My system only gets down to 16-18Hz realistically so there might be a whole load of content in WoTW I'm completely missing.

As a film, I think its much better than WoTW, honestly I only watch WoTW for the bass, its not a great film to actually watch, but The Mist is an excellent film regardless of bass, despite the poor quality CG effects compared to WoTW. Especially the ending, very few film makers have the balls for such a hard hitting and dark ending but I found it almost 'refreshing' because of how unexpected it was whereas most modern films are pretty predictable and would never dare to not have a happy ending.

Quite a few of King's novels and stories have been adapted to film and nearly all are excellent, some are among IMDBs top films. Shawshank Redemption, Green Mile, Lawnmower Man, The Running Man, Maximum Overdrive and The Shining to name just a few.
I can certainly respect a non-Hollywood ending -- recently myself advocated for just that with JURASSIC WORLD -- would have soared in my estimation were it to have conducted all the major cast players to a gruesome, prolonged, horrific, bloody death.

Unfortunately, could not sustain myself through more than 40 minutes of the MIST rewatch, as I own it on blu. Not the best version, perhaps this is so, but assume one of the big LFE moments might have been the early-on earthquake? Not too thrilling, for me, but beyond that, since you expand upon film virtues, I was really put off by the inexplicably weak, ineffectual explanation of what Jane heard banging against the dock draw-access in the rear warehouse of the store.

So incredibly vague, non-descript and noncommital, that that was what served as the apparent spark for conflict and mockery amongst those he was explaining this to. All of that business exhibited such mediocre dialog and character development -- well, the goings on really fall apart when the arc depends upon foundation such as that.

Compared to WOTW? -- just my opinion, Cruise, the entire cast and set-up and dialog make that one more believable by orders of magnitude, although I concede it might have been really tasty if his daring teenage son got cut down immediately upon volunteering for service on that hillside -- but what are you going to do?

Incidentally, will reaffirm my suggestion for little-heralded bass flick 3 DAYS TO KILL -- check it out....THE MIST? --- HMMM, not sure myself why that was put forth, but to each his own...
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Remind me never to disagree with you
Didn't mean to offend you. I really thought you were being sarcastic and or a complete newbie when you put that movie on the same level as WOTW.

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Too bad you couldn't pay me to watch it! The original one scared the crap out of me as a kid. Never mind this new one lol
Hey Brian F & Fatshaft! Please tell me you guys watched Poltergeist ? Its your civil basshead duty to do so! It was simply incredible in level,extension (not the ultimate in extension but oh my!) and fidelity, it literally punished the room and those spikes you see on the graphs mean business
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Poltergeist its great, but my true audio heaven movie in 2015 must be Terminator Genisys, its fantastic and all the bass in the right places. SA its just meaningless with bass just pumping out all the time, imo.

What is yours favorite 2015 bass movie ?
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Hey Brian F & Fatshaft! Please tell me you guys watched Poltergeist ? Its your civil basshead duty to do so! It was simply incredible in level,extension (not the ultimate in extension but oh my!) and fidelity, it literally punished the room and those spikes you see on the graphs mean business
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Hey Brian F & Fatshaft! Please tell me you guys watched Poltergeist ? Its your civil basshead duty to do so! It was simply incredible in level,extension (not the ultimate in extension but oh my!) and fidelity, it literally punished the room and those spikes you see on the graphs mean business
lol nope. Won't do it. All set with horror movies

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What is yours favorite 2015 bass movie ?
Pixels. By far
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Hey Brian F & Fatshaft! Please tell me you guys watched Poltergeist ? Its your civil basshead duty to do so! It was simply incredible in level,extension (not the ultimate in extension but oh my!) and fidelity, it literally punished the room and those spikes you see on the graphs mean business
OK...OK, I give up...I'll watch it with my wife (She likes horror)
This will be THE ONLY time I'll watch a horror movie!
I'm doing it for the bass ONLY!
Just want to make sure it's crystal clear that it will be ONLY ONE TIME!
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Poltergeist its great, but my true audio heaven movie in 2015 must be Terminator Genisys, its fantastic and all the bass in the right places. SA its just meaningless with bass just pumping out all the time, imo.

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Bass move of the year you ask???
Very obvious choice...NOTHING compares to it!
It's easy cause this movie is "Bass movie of the century!"
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Poltergeist its great, but my true audio heaven movie in 2015 must be Terminator Genisys, its fantastic and all the bass in the right places. SA its just meaningless with bass just pumping out all the time, imo.

What is yours favorite 2015 bass movie ?
Poltergiest is worth a spin for bass for sure! Movie is so bad though that it almost feels like a spoof of the original (which was truly scary IMO). The new film is more silly than scary to me.

Mad Max is hands down the best bass film/experience of the year (Pixels would probably be second for me unless Ragnarok came out this year as well which I cant remember), but I haven't seen Terminator yet.
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I agree…so far MMFR is the bass movie of the year (that I've seen thus far). Pixels is on tap for tonight.
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^^ Yes, MMFR for me too for sure. I do not think Pixel can surpass it from viewing in my secondary system.
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Tough crowd here when it comes to horror flicks but the new Poltergeist isn't even close to how the original one is. The original still scares me when I watch it but the new one is forgettable as far as the story goes. The Bass is incredible though!
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I chose pixels because it just has much more content under 20hz than mmfr does.

It was used much better in pixels too. Mmfr was just an onslaught of bass. And centered around 30hz
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I actually felt the bass in Pixels was a bit repetitive. I also prefer bass tracks that are still strongest/centered in the 20-30hz slam range with supporting ULF (like Max) vs a track like Pixels that is balanced through the bass range, but that is just me.

Also, I am a bass fest guy and MMFR is probably the biggest bass film ever from this perspective! MMFR kills Pixels from a quantity standpoint which is saying a lot since Pixels has a lot of bass. The bass starts right from the get go in MM and keeps going and going and going and then you start laughing because of how ridiculous (in a good way) it all is and then you finally get a break and you are only 30 minutes into the film. That first 30 minutes of MM might be my favorite 30 minutes of movie audio/bass ever overall.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the bass experience of Pixels as well! As a start to finish LFE film though, it cant touch Max for me overall. No right or wrong here as I can see and understand people picking one or the other for various reasons.

I am curious to see how the new Terminator stacks up.
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I actually felt the bass in Pixels was a bit repetitive. I also prefer bass tracks that are still strongest/centered in the 20-30hz slam range with supporting ULF (like Max) vs a track like Pixels that is balanced through the bass range, but that is just me.

Also, I am a bass fest guy and MMFR is probably the biggest bass film ever from this perspective! MMFR kills Pixels from a quantity standpoint which is saying a lot since Pixels has a lot of bass. The bass starts right from the get go in MM and keeps going and going and going and then you start laughing because of how ridiculous (in a good way) it all is and then you finally get a break and you are only 30 minutes into the film. That first 30 minutes of MM might be my favorite 30 minutes of movie audio/bass ever overall.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the bass experience of Pixels as well! As a start to finish LFE film though, it cant touch Max for me overall. No right or wrong here as I can see and understand people picking one or the other for various reasons.

I am curious to see how the new Terminator stacks up.

Your stance is perfectly stated! And I respect it

I'm the complete opposite however. I think constant bass becomes boring and obnoxious. And I am a bass head. There isn't much under 20hz in mmfr. So the 30hz bass isn't supported that well. It's loud. And more loud. That's about it.

It sure is an onslaught that's for sure.

Pixels used it for a purpose. So the dynamics are much better. And it's so demanding under 20hz. It really gives that full range feel. Which mmfr misses. It is a true 5 star. Where mmfr misses for me. It reminds me of battle:la. Just gobs of bass where it becomes kind of obnoxious (great for demos but not for watching a full feature)

Now either puts huge smiles on my face as wel as San Andreas and Jurassic world. But if I had to pick my favorite of 2015. Pixels wins. And it's no contest.

I can break it into categories

Best overall bass film of 2015:
Pixels

Most bass in a film (quantity only)
Mmfr

Best bass in an extra on Br:
Jurassic world

Best use of bass in a supporting roll:
Jurassic world

Now all this is premature since terminator gen still is to be seen and we have all of novemembet and December (mi:4, man from u.n.c.l.e etc)
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No worries Brian, we can agree to disagree. Pixels IMO would have been better with a bit more slam in the 20-30hz range IMO for all that supporting under 20hz bass. It almost felt too balanced to me and even a bit generic as far as the bass. Again though, I still thought it was a great bass film it just cant touch Max as an overall start to finish experience. I'm a bass fest guy though and you aren't, so it makes sense we have a different opinion on this.

I would also disagree that Max did not use bass for purpose as the bass clearly was there to establish a constant tension, edge of your seat type effect which suited the film perfectly.

Are there any other good bass potential films on the horizon after Terminator for anyone who has looked at the upcoming release list through the end of the year? Antman maybe?

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Your stance is perfectly stated! And I respect it

I'm the complete opposite however. I think constant bass becomes boring and obnoxious. And I am a bass head. There isn't much under 20hz in mmfr. So the 30hz bass isn't supported that well. It's loud. And more loud. That's about it.

It sure is an onslaught that's for sure.

Pixels used it for a purpose. So the dynamics are much better. And it's so demanding under 20hz. It really gives that full range feel. Which mmfr misses. It is a true 5 star. Where mmfr misses for me. It reminds me of battle:la. Just gobs of bass where it becomes kind of obnoxious (great for demos but not for watching a full feature)

Now either puts huge smiles on my face as wel as San Andreas and Jurassic world. But if I had to pick my favorite of 2015. Pixels wins. And it's no contest.
nice job putting all this into words brian. i made a comment similar to this earlier in the thread, but it seemed to go unnoticed. i'm just not as popular as you. but i feel the same as you, while mmfr has a ton of bass, and that has always been my favorite part of any movie, but it was just constant and became boring and almost annoying. on top of that, i have just never been a fan of the mad max genre when it comes to movies so i'm sure that didn't help. i was much happier with the overall presentation and actual movie part of pixels and san andreas. mmfr certainly had some demo material in it, but it is one i would never own because i can't see myself watching it again. pixels and san andreas, if i can find for cheap during black friday, will most certainly become part of my collection...especailly since my kids thoroughly enjoyed both as well. they keep asking when i am going to buy them so they can rewatch.
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nice job putting all this into words brian. i made a comment similar to this earlier in the thread, but it seemed to go unnoticed. i'm just not as popular as you. but i feel the same as you, while mmfr has a ton of bass, and that has always been my favorite part of any movie, but it was just constant and became boring and almost annoying. on top of that, i have just never been a fan of the mad max genre when it comes to movies so i'm sure that didn't help. i was much happier with the overall presentation and actual movie part of pixels and san andreas. mmfr certainly had some demo material in it, but it is one i would never own because i can't see myself watching it again. pixels and san andreas, if i can find for cheap during black friday, will most certainly become part of my collection...especailly since my kids thoroughly enjoyed both as well. they keep asking when i am going to buy them so they can rewatch.
It's interesting how subjective all this is at times. Although I enjoyed both Pixels and SA as far as the movies go, both were one and done for me even with the A/V. Unfortunately I blind bought SA, but at least I rented Pixels. I don't see myself watching either one again. MMFR on the other hand is something I will get multiple viewings of.

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Even though for me I don't like mmfr (way too odd for my tastes) I have watched it three times and look forward to watching again simply for the audio visual enjoyment. Is that weird??

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i guess that is what makes this entire thread subjective. different rooms, different subs, different taste in movies.....no science here folks...just individualism.
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