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Old 11-08-2015, 10:40 AM
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Never! That would blasphemy! I'm not saying there wasn't any bass, but how can you produce a movie soundtrack about a mega earthquake without sub 30 hz content?

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I agree about the sub 20hz( NOT 30hz. There is tons of loud content from 20-30hz) being lacking (TF 4 fell like a rock at 30hz). But the levels were still Loud and should have had the same effect as tf4 if not more as tf4 was even more rolled off than San Andreas. 30 hz vs 20hz

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I agree about the sub 20hz( NOT 30hz. There is tons of loud content from 20-30hz) being lacking (TF 4 fell like a rock at 30hz). But the levels were still Loud and should have had the same effect as tf4 if not more as tf4 was even more rolled off than San Andreas. 30 hz vs 20hz


San Andreas, 20hz? The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts

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Watched Pixels last night....now this is how proper ULF is implemented! Full bandwidth glory! Every scene that called upon ULF delivered...it happened from the very beginning of the movie, until the end.

For those with full bandwidth systems, it can be noticed right away! Much better than Jurrasic World ULF (which was pretty good). I haven't seen MMFR yet...been too damn busy, but I doubt it will trump Pixels as far as bass movie of the year for me.

Pixels ULF reminded be a lot of movies like Elysium and Olympus Has Fallen, especially Elysium; where every ULF scene seemed to deliver the full bandwidth goods.

It's a rare occasion these days that you hear/feel ULF like TIH and WOTW, but Pixels is definitely added to that list for me from a ULF perspective. Now if I consider the entire movie, it's not as impressive as those two greats, but that's because of the context of the movie. ULF-wise though, it's right up there.

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Transformers rattled my picture frames and breakfront glass, and almost vibrated the sheet rock off my walls. (My floor is carpeted concrete.)
Even with the bass running 6db hot, San Andreas didn't come close to Transformers 4 in terms of 'house crumbling bass', especially in those scenes where skyscrapers came crumbling down.

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SAN ANDREAS
(Atmos soundtrack)
(taken from sub out with 7 channels re-directed)

Scale:

33:50

36:05

37:23

38:25

40:45

41:54

55:25

1:25:00

Excuse me, Hollywood: Earthquakes aren't filtered at 20Hz.
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Why do I get the feeling the rental disc had a different sound track? Otherwise, I can't explain the dependencies.

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Wouldn't be the first time. But it's odd no matter how you look at it
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looks to me like san andreas reaches to about 15hz??
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15 yes but not with any authority. It drops heavily after 20hz
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point being, it certainly isn't capped at 30, and there is plenty of 20 to rattle anything in the room....which is what i experienced as well. pictures on a shelf across the room actually came down, that's how i know.
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I don't see anyone questioning the ULF goodness of Pixels which came through loud and clear on my setup as well (especially with my buttkickers in the mix). My biggest complaint was the lack of bass variety as a lot of the bass effects seemed reused.

Elysium has always been an overrated bass track to me as well. Sure, the ULF is clearly there but the track suffers from low level and spotty execution (a lot of the weapons effects sound like cap guns ). Just because a track is "full bandwidth" does not automatically equal awesome!
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Agreed about the auto good track from being full BW. But pixels isn't that case. (We won't ever agree on This one hahaha)
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I don't see anyone questioning the ULF goodness of Pixels which came through loud and clear on my setup as well (especially with my buttkickers in the mix). My biggest complaint was the lack of bass variety as a lot of the bass effects seemed reused.

Elysium has always been an overrated bass track to me as well. Sure, the ULF is clearly there but the track suffers from low level and spotty execution (a lot of the weapons effects sound like cap guns ). Just because a track is "full bandwidth" does not automatically equal awesome!
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Agreed about the auto good track from being full BW. But pixels isn't that case. (We won't ever agree on This one hahaha)

I found Pixels to have gobs of variety! and represents the perfect and mean perfect bass track! I do however agree fullbandwith doesn't equal good soundtrack as Toe noted Elysium suffers greatly in level which in turned requires an almost 6db bump in bass level to extract any goods from it and doesn't really help the level of the rest of the soundtrack! Now add Atmos to Pixels and in a 7.1.4 setup you have greater opportunity to detect the bass variety, as the discrete placement of objects can add an entirely new dimension of bass placement to help localize when and where
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Agreed about the auto good track from being full BW. But pixels isn't that case. (We won't ever agree on This one hahaha)
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I found Pixels to have gobs of variety! and represents the perfect and mean perfect bass track! I do however agree fullbandwith doesn't equal good soundtrack as Toe noted Elysium suffers greatly in level which in turned requires an almost 6db bump in bass level to extract any goods from it and doesn't really help the level of the rest of the soundtrack! Now add Atmos to Pixels and in a 7.1.4 setup you have greater opportunity to detect the bass variety, as the discrete placement of objects can add an entirely new dimension of bass placement to help localize when and where
You guys didn't find the bass effects to be a bit generic after a while? More effort in the variety department would have been a nice addition IMO.
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No. In fact that's exactly what I thought of he mmfr effects. Repetitive and the same

And I just watched it last night. Awesome bass. Just boring. I guess here was just too much of it if that's even possible hahah

Mind you this is all relative. And only being nitpicking since we are trying to compare two top notch tracks
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Your right, we are never going to agree on these! It's all good. Boredom is the last word I would use to describe my experience with MMFR and the bass/audio.

Maybe Terminator will bring us all back together again!
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Yeah I guess that's not the most accurate word to describe it but it's the only in I could even think of to describe my thoughts lol
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im with brian on this one. i got more enjoyment out of the usage of the bass on pixels versus mmfr. then again, i may be slightly biased because i did not care for the movie itself with mmfr. but it did seem to be the same bass over and over and over...except the sand storm...variety there.
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I can't be THAT wrong. At databass

It's 20 - 5star 12 - 4 star votes 1- 3 star 1 2- star for mmfr
It's 10 - 5 star. 0 - 4 star 0- 3 star 0- 2 star votes for pixels (unanimous) so far
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I can't be THAT wrong. At databass

It's 20 - 5star 12 - 4 star votes 1- 3 star 1 2- star for mmfr
It's 10 - 5 star. 0 - 4 star 0- 3 star 0- 2 star votes for pixels (unanimous) so far
Who is saying you are wrong? Pixels could get a 1000 unanimous 5 star votes and it wouldn't change my opinion, does that make me wrong? We just have a different opinion/perspective and neither of us is wrong. I can understand people voting either one of these top dog for different reasons and depending on what you look for/enjoy most when it comes to bass in movies.

I also think EoT which was bass movie of the year last year IIRC is way overrated and certainly was not my bass movie of the year choice either. Am I wrong there as well?

Point being I don't think we need to try and justify our opinion to the degree you are going to. We have a different opinion on these, we should just leave it at that. Neither of us are "wrong".
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Who is saying you are wrong? Pixels could get a 1000 unanimous 5 star votes and it wouldn't change my opinion, does that make me wrong? We just have a different opinion/perspective and neither of us is wrong. I can understand people voting either one of these top dog for different reasons and depending on what you look for/enjoy most when it comes to bass in movies.

I also think EoT which was bass movie of the year last year IIRC is way overrated and certainly was not my bass movie of the year choice either. Am I wrong there as well?

Point being I don't think we need to try and justify our opinion to the degree you are going to. We have a different opinion on these, we should just leave it at that. Neither of us are "wrong".
Woah. I think you took that one 100% the wrong way. Didn't mean your wrong at aLl

Was just being playful with some numbers from databass

And after further review they both got a 1 star vote lol
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Pixels had good bass but not as good as Poltergeist as far as I can remember. Am I wrong?

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NOT HAPPENING lol
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And after further review they both got a 1 star vote lol
Yep, and Jurassic World also. Same poster in all three cases. I think we can safely call this a troll.
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Lol! The movie itself is a joke. The bass is something else. Don't be scared haha.

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That is just JBL being mad for some reason. He removed all his posts and now gives 1 to everything. Anyways, I really think what one owns and how the run it makes a huge subjective difference. Not only am I full bandwidth I am also 5 dB louder from 3-10hz than the rest of the frequencies so a full bandwidth movie sounds for deep with tons of weight. A full bandwidth movie recorded lower can easily be turned up to be a 5 star movie. IMHO a filtered loud 20-30 hz movie can never be because I always wish it was full bandwidth and have that weight to it. If you look at some of the movies recently they are as loud at 10hz as full bandwidth movies but with a huge peak at 30hz so it still sounds heavy. I have a feeling without that boost down low you will miss it and be underwhelmed.
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