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Old 12-05-2015, 10:45 PM
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You folks who have Roger Waters The Wall, how much is concert footage and how much is dedicated to Waters stuff? Reading the review from blu-ray.com;

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Roger-.../12873/#Review

.........it's hard to tell when the concert stuff begins and the Waters stuff ends to the point that I was having second thoughts about getting this disc. But after reading all the reviews from you guys, it sounds like a must have.

But then I see Amazon reviews like this "Most Helpful" review and I'm right back on the fence. I was really hoping for straight forward concert film of this show.

With all due respect to Roger Waters and his personal journey to come to terms with his grief over losing his father in WWII, I believe the off-stage travelogue takes up far too much screen time. It interrupts the flow of the concert. Make no mistake -- this film is about Roger, not the live concert. Fans of "The Wall" don't necessarily need or want to delve so deeply into the nuts and bolts of what pains Roger Waters personally. After 35 years of listening to the album, watching the 1982 film, and reading about the concept behind them, we get it already. At the end of the day, I think most of us just enjoy the music and bring our own joys and demons to the message behind it. But with this too-personal film, we are asked to experience it primarily on HIS level, not our own.

Not gonna lie: I wanted a straight-forward filmed souvenir of the concert experience I enjoyed the three times I saw the show live. When I read last year that the eventual release on home video would include snippets of Roger's travels on the healing road, I had no idea there would be so many of them and take up so much time. Granted, without those extra segments the concert video would run pretty short -- pretty much just the length of the album. So I guess I can live with a LITTLE padding here and there. But in my opinion it is just too much and too frequent.

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You folks who have Roger Waters The Wall, how much is concert footage and how much is dedicated to Waters stuff? Reading the review from blu-ray.com;

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Roger-.../12873/#Review

.........it's hard to tell when the concert stuff begins and the Waters stuff ends to the point that I was having second thoughts about getting this disc. But after reading all the reviews from you guys, it sounds like a must have.
I would say 80% is concert.
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One other question regarding The Wall. Are the Waters odyssey bits assigned their own chapters? In other words, can one just hit the "next scene" button on the remote and effectively skip these segments?
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One other question regarding The Wall. Are the Waters odyssey bits assigned their own chapters? In other words, can one just hit the "next scene" button on the remote and effectively skip these segments?
Yes just hit the next key and you're good to go
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I re-watched these two guys last night (it's been a while):



And I thought the bass was loud, and undefined, unrefined, and unsophisticated...but loud with a wallop.

I prefer 'The Wall' with Roger Waters & the gang. But 'Hot Fuzz' is much funnier.

* Oh, it's a five stars flick (bass content); I just locked. Well, what do I know. I know that it's loud and overly so. But it's fun loud.

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Why you no share?
It's a Fisher soundbar, with integrated woofers, four of them, 2" a piece. I got clean 500Hz vibrations in my bedroom. My Mum always tell me to turn it down.
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I received the Rush R-40 bluray/CD package today. Previous concert offerings from Rush have been some of the worst mixed concert vids I own, such a shame for such a popular band like this to allow that to happen. Anyway, I watched the first set tonight and they finally got this one right. Well mixed and even though it doesn't dig down into the ULF frequencies, there is plenty of Geddy throughout.
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^^ hope to get sometime to view this R40 concert. I agree with the bad mixes from previous concerts- real disappointment. Thanks.
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Hello all,
I notice you guys bring up movies from the past to discuss. I have to add the last Diehard movie, A good day to die hard! Wow is the sound amazing on this 7.1 DTS Master Audio track. I know there have been charts on this movie in the past but there is definitely som serious ULF in this flick.

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^^ hope to get sometime to view this R40 concert. I agree with the bad mixes from previous concerts- real disappointment. Thanks.
You guys didn't like "Time Machine?" I thought it was pretty well done.
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I re-watched these two guys last night (it's been a while):



And I thought the bass was loud, and undefined, unrefined, and unsophisticated...but loud with a wallop.

I prefer 'The Wall' with Roger Waters & the gang. But 'Hot Fuzz' is much funnier.

* Oh, it's a five stars flick (bass content); I just locked. Well, what do I know. I know that it's loud and overly so. But it's fun loud.
The bass is purposely exaggerated. It's making fun of action movies that have bass is almost every scene, even when it doesn't need it. Like turning around slowly would have a low bass note. Haha.

I think it's well done actually.

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You guys didn't like "Time Machine?" I thought it was pretty well done.
Don't have this one. Time to add to the list. Thanks.
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Yes saprano, the bass is "overly loud", and that was the fun intention (on purpose in homage to "Die Hard" type of Hollywood flicks).
And 'Hot Fuzz' ended up as a 5 stars 'bass content' (top gun) in the databass system. Plus it is a fun flick highly rated too @ Rotten Tomatoes and around.


It's funnily ironic, because you have other flicks like 'Ultron' for example with dismal bass, and overall audio.
Even flicks like 'San Andreas', and other cataclysm films where the bass should destroy your home...I'd rather watch again 'Hot Fuzz'.
And that, is the comical irony.

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I received the Rush R-40 bluray/CD package today. Previous concert offerings from Rush have been some of the worst mixed concert vids I own, such a shame for such a popular band like this to allow that to happen. Anyway, I watched the first set tonight and they finally got this one right. Well mixed and even though it doesn't dig down into the ULF frequencies, there is plenty of Geddy throughout.
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Rush is a Canadian Rock&Roll band too.

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Rush is a Canadian Rock&Roll band too.
Was........Neil Peart announced his retirement a couple days ago. This was Rush's' last tour fer sure.
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You guys didn't like "Time Machine?" I thought it was pretty well done.
I didn't care for it. I'm trying to remember whether R-30 or Time machine has Lifeson's guitar so poorly mixed. Either way, it was hard to listen to and I have a pretty forgiving system that's VERY easy on the ears.
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I received the Rush R-40 bluray/CD package today. Previous concert offerings from Rush have been some of the worst mixed concert vids I own, such a shame for such a popular band like this to allow that to happen. Anyway, I watched the first set tonight and they finally got this one right. Well mixed and even though it doesn't dig down into the ULF frequencies, there is plenty of Geddy throughout.
I just want to add that this mix is in no way perfect. Peart's drums, cymbals in particular are sometimes mixed too low and Geddy's vocals have somewhat of an echo that make it difficult to understand the words at times. However, I'll again state that this mix is far and away superior to all the past bluray concert vids from Rush. The video editing is also done well with most shots staying on subject for a couple seconds as opposed to the usual half second frenzy edits found on many other concert vids.
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I just want to add that this mix is in no way perfect. Peart's drums, cymbals in particular are sometimes mixed too low and Geddy's vocals have somewhat of an echo that make it difficult to understand the words at times. However, I'll again state that this mix is far and away superior to all the past bluray concert vids from Rush. The video editing is also done well with most shots staying on subject for a couple seconds as opposed to the usual half second frenzy edits found on many other concert vids.
This is good to know because I've been planning on getting a Rush Concert Disc and have been wondering which would be the best to get. Thanks for the info.

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I received the Rush R-40 bluray/CD package today. Previous concert offerings from Rush have been some of the worst mixed concert vids I own, such a shame for such a popular band like this to allow that to happen. Anyway, I watched the first set tonight and they finally got this one right. Well mixed and even though it doesn't dig down into the ULF frequencies, there is plenty of Geddy throughout.
Agreed about Rush concert recordings/mixes in general being VERY disappointing. I still think the Snakes and Arrows blu ray concert might be the worst recorded/mixed blu ray concert I have heard to date.

So is R-40 a good recording/mix in general compared to other blu ray concerts or just relatively good compared to all the other awful Live Rush recordings/mixes?

Another question for anyone who might know, but how are the Rush multichannel music discs? I only have Moving Pictures which I would say was decent, but nothing special. Do any of the others fare better for recording/mix compared to MP?
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Agreed about Rush concert recordings/mixes in general being VERY disappointing. I still think the Snakes and Arrows blu ray concert might be the worst recorded/mixed blu ray concert I have heard to date.

I agree!

So is R-40 a good recording/mix in general compared to other blu ray concerts or just relatively good compared to all the other awful Live Rush recordings/mixes?

Relatively good compared to other Rush blurays. Compared to the 80 or so concert blus I own, it's about average.........maybe slightly better than average. There's a lot of crap out there.

Another question for anyone who might know, but how are the Rush multichannel music discs? I only have Moving Pictures which I would say was decent, but nothing special. Do any of the others fare better for recording/mix compared to MP?

I own the 2112 bluray multi-channel as well as Moving Pictures. I like them both but when I compare, I'm usually focusing on the CD counterpart. My favorite multi-channel disc is the DVD audio of Pink Floyd's "Division Bell". It's not easy to find but well worth the effort. Bass is clean, smooth and for music, digs fairly deep in a few spots.
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^^^^^^^^I couldn't agree more on Division Bell in 5.1! Dire Straights Brothers in Arms was my favorite for years, but DB dethroned it overall. I was always a bit luke warm to the DB album in general, but once I heard it in 5.1, it felt like that was how it was meant to be experienced and gave me a whole new appreciation for the material.
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WOW...Pan 2015 BluRay TrueHD 7.1!!!!

Get ready for this one...(IF you like <30HZ stuff)
2 particular scenes hit very hard at the 10HZ range!

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Damn, and I had no desire to see this movie.


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You guys need to checkout Transporter: Refueled tons of bass through out the movie. Movie was ok no (Jason Staham).
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