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post #24181 of 24210 Old 02-01-2016, 04:42 AM
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Watched Happy Feet 2 with kids last night, and it was nice surprise with its bass, fun.
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So here's the straight scoop on MAGIC MIKE XXL -- or should I say, anything but the "straight" scoop! Let's call it the low-down, and to my ear it goes low. Some pretty bass-dominant interludes -- music based, of course. Have not compared it to PROJECT X side-by-side yet, but seems it might be a worthy candidate for similarity. Could not get answers here, but read a few reviews, and purchased at discounted rate.


Now another reflection, also by way of public service announcement: if you feel your orientation at all tenuous, on precarious footing, have felt the merest tremors of latent forbidden urges, AND you do not want to undergo the full-on conversion, you must avoid this movie at all costs! The images and tableaus set forth can have profound ramifications. For myself, I never gave much thought to switching camps, but after this flick, have to call such contemplations a fait accompli! -- so if you're a vacillator, watch only under that strong advisory!


You have been warned! -- big bass pulses, direct correspondence to debasing impulses.....
Sorry but females are way too good to turn the other way.

You're post is out of nowhere by the way. lol.

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Sorry but females are way too good to turn the other way.

You're post is out of nowhere by the way. lol.
Not out of nowhere, exactly. I had asked previously about the bass in XXL, and what followed was some inane volley of juvenile winking and mock horror at the prospect of watching the movie. Straight out of high school, and no answers as to movie or bass, until someone chimed in on the homoerotic angle.


Yes, the notion that you can be turned by exposure to this content is patently absurd, thanks for recognizing that -- hopefully my post was understood in that context. Besides, the presence of the outrageously fine Amber Heard in this production, gave me enough eye candy -- well, maybe that was the only thing that saved me from getting swallowed up! (so to speak) -- that last bit sarcasm as well.


Actually, for myself, I found the movie unfortunately a tedious bore and got anxious to get to the LF parts, so fast forwarded to the two (I think?) sections that featured that. Not unhappy with the purchase for those scenes that were there, but actually was more impressed by PROJECT X, and that had more material, in terms of number of scenes where the bass dominated, if not actual onscreen time.....
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^^^

I watched Hyena Road this past weekend and really, really enjoyed it. I would say it was almost on-par with The Hurt Locker and other fairly recent war movies. I'd even rate it a bit better than American Sniper (lots of sniper scenes in HR).

Had some great bass moments as well.
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Not out of nowhere, exactly. I had asked previously about the bass in XXL, and what followed was some inane volley of juvenile winking and mock horror at the prospect of watching the movie. Straight out of high school, and no answers as to movie or bass, until someone chimed in on the homoerotic angle.


Yes, the notion that you can be turned by exposure to this content is patently absurd, thanks for recognizing that -- hopefully my post was understood in that context. Besides, the presence of the outrageously fine Amber Heard in this production, gave me enough eye candy -- well, maybe that was the only thing that saved me from getting swallowed up! (so to speak) -- that last bit sarcasm as well.


Actually, for myself, I found the movie unfortunately a tedious bore and got anxious to get to the LF parts, so fast forwarded to the two (I think?) sections that featured that. Not unhappy with the purchase for those scenes that were there, but actually was more impressed by PROJECT X, and that had more material, in terms of number of scenes where the bass dominated, if not actual onscreen time.....
I wasn't here for that. In that context your post is highly effective then. Haha. A misunderstanding on my part.

Yes unfortunately even grown up's can act like high school kids.

If you were...uh....actually enticed by the hunky males, there's nothing really wrong with that.

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I've been browsing the charts at the data-bass forums over the weekend and am still not sure what do the green and red lines represent. I feel a bit silly for asking.

I also wanted to verify the spike at 1 Hz in most of the charts is just a DC artifact and is not a real bass signal. Even among us I find it hard to believe any of us can reproduce a 1 Hz signal.
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That would be a harmonic of a signal. Then again, it just might be a 1Hz signal. Not many of us can reproduce a signal that low. Hence, we have graphs.
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I wasn't here for that. In that context your post is highly effective then. Haha. A misunderstanding on my part.

Yes unfortunately even grown up's can act like high school kids.

If you were...uh....actually enticed by the hunky males, there's nothing really wrong with that.

*Sienfeld reference*

Yeah, no doubt on that front, but even though these characters were depicted as gratifying female desires (including the aforementioned Amber Heard ---HMMMM), there was still a good deal of jock mentality clowning and pranking going on, which wears thin very shortly. And the most penetrating insightful intellectual exercise occurred during ruminations on what theme of strip dance best represented the persona of one of the main dudes, so kind of difficult to even relate to these people, let alone invest in what they were doing. So a bust there, but one thing you can do with the disc is turn all your other amplifiers off, and listen for all the rattles and vibrations all around the room -- pointed out some reworking I need to do for maximum dampening of onerous peripheral noise....
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I've been browsing the charts at the data-bass forums over the weekend and am still not sure what do the green and red lines represent. I feel a bit silly for asking.

I also wanted to verify the spike at 1 Hz in most of the charts is just a DC artifact and is not a real bass signal. Even among us I find it hard to believe any of us can reproduce a 1 Hz signal.
You should ask this question over at data-bass because the guys over there came up with the measurement standards and will have a better explanation. PvA: peak vs. average. Green line is a peak hold. Red is an average of the whole film. As far as the 1Hz signal thing, there absolutely are soundtracks with content at 1Hz not from artifacts. You can go into REW's generator and play a 1Hz sine and see if your system makes your driver move. I would bet money that there are sealed systems here at AVS that will pressurize a room at 1Hz. I'm sure they are rolling off by that point but it doesn't take much signal at 1Hz to push a driver to xmax.
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(Atmos to Dolby True HD)


What does this mean? Are you comparing the Atmos track to the Dolby TrueHD track? If so, I don't see the comparison. Please explain. Thanks.

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What does this mean? Are you comparing the Atmos track to the Dolby TrueHD track? If so, I don't see the comparison. Please explain. Thanks.

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I believe he's saying he's using the Atmos track, but it is outputting in TrueHD
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I believe he's saying he's using the Atmos track, but it is outputting in TrueHD
Ahhh. OK.

Next question... has anyone ever measured the bass content in the Atmos Heights or Overheads? With them being "objects" is that even possible to do? It's a pertinent question because no one really knows what kind of bass extension is required for the height or overhead speakers in an Atmos or DTS:X system. I see people using un-enclosed in-ceiling speakers for these positions along with the speculation that there is no bass in those channels anyway. That may be fine if the Heights/Overheads never get any real bass. But if they get content in the 80 Hz to 150 Hz range, it may be beneficial to use either enclosed in-ceilings or enclosed on-ceilings or a higher crossover for those channels.

In any event, it would be interesting to know what gets sent to those speakers. Is it possible to isolate them and measure their unique content?

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It doesn't cut it @ all. I agree with most pro film critics...10 @ best (out of 100).

The bass? Not the type of film for bass prowess; drive a muscle sports car instead and play your own tunes inside.

This film is a total mess, just pathetically bad. Agent 47 is twice better, @ 20 (out of 100).

* You said in your quote above that the "sound design is kinda stock."
I dig the three previous Transporter flicks with Jason; this one sucks.
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Not enclosing a ceiling or wall speaker makes it an infinite baffle enclosure. Putting the speaker in an enclosure is only to protect the speaker and xo, if it has one, from debris.
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Not enclosing a ceiling or wall speaker makes it an infinite baffle enclosure. Putting the speaker in an enclosure is only to protect the speaker and xo, if it has one, from debris.
Two reasons to use an enclosure with an in-ceiling or wall speaker:

1. 1/2" drywall is not an effective baffle. A single layer of 1/2" drywall has an STC of about 20, but it's much less than that at lower frequencies.



If the purpose of the infinite baffle is to isolate the front wave from the back wave so they don't cancel each other, then 1/2" drywall is too thin and porous to be useful at low frequencies.

2. Reduce sound transmission to adjacent spaces.

Nonetheless, this is not the thread to debate the inadequacies of infinite baffle in-ceiling designs.

My real question is... has anyone looked at the actual LF content sent to the Atmos Height speakers?

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Regression isn't even opening in the US until this Friday.
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Certainly more than the sum total of what I knew about it, but looks intriguing? (...albiet 18 to 1 rotten presently....)
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So far watching hyena road. Not impressed with bass at all. Not even close t ok Hurt Locker.

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Holy cow.... I watched a movie called American Ultra last night. It made my A7-450 shake my entire house. I was totally caught off guard by this one.
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Holy cow.... I watched a movie called American Ultra last night. It made my A7-450 shake my entire house. I was totally caught off guard by this one.
Oh, good to know, expecting it in tomorrow -- that would be a lovely, not necessarily expected pleasure, since I've not until now been given to understand that particular of this disc...looking forward to it!
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Did the theatrical mix and Directors cut mix ever get compared for Terminator Salvation? Just curious if one is better than the other for bass(?).
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Holy cow.... I watched a movie called American Ultra last night. It made my A7-450 shake my entire house.
I was totally caught off guard by this one.
The Blu-ray is encoded with a dts:X audio soundtrack.

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The Blu-ray is encoded with a dts:X audio soundtrack.
Man it was a great mix. The movie wasn't half bad either. I was pleasantly surprised by both the sound and the content.
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Man it was a great mix. The movie wasn't half bad either. I was pleasantly surprised by both the sound and the content.
Yes, I want to hear more about it...in particular from people who have a DTS:X sound decoder.
Because if the core audio (DTS-HD MA 7.1) sounds this good to you, with great bass impact...it must be totally awesome from the main dts:x audio (7.1.4).

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This looks good. Hoping to watch tonight.
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This looks good. Hoping to watch tonight.
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^^^ I liked "The Last Witch Hunter" awesome soundtrack and great bass
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