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I am wrath was dissapointing compared to what the measurements show. Should of went with Gods of Egypt...on deck for tomorrow night.
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Haven't seen the 3d at home, but in theaters it had great depth and would think it would be a lot more immersive than the added clarity 4k would give.
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Bluray.com didn't rate the 3D to be anything special. Might go with the 4K UHD bluray
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Bluray.com didn't rate the 3D to be anything special. Might go with the 4K UHD bluray
I trust them on a lot of things but not on their 3D ratings.

For me the issue is "Do I really want to spend >$25 for the 3D version of a crap movie?" The 2D version will definitely plummet in price. Whether or not 3D versions get cheap is a huge question mark. I REALLY need to get myself in the habit of instantly selling the 2D version of a movie when I get a 3D bundle.
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Ladies and gentlemen...I present you...Gods of Egypt...


This movie will kick your subs arse... They are in for a full workout!
This is on my top list to watch immediately...poor rating (Don't care )
MAJOR bass...massive filter at 10HZ down...the rest is ALL there!!!

Enjoy!
Can you give me exact minute/second marks in the movie that there intense LFE? I watched about 35 minutes of it and the movie is painfully bad to watch and I had to turn it off.
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Can you give me exact minute/second marks in the movie that there intense LFE?
No I can't...

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I watched about 35 minutes of it and the movie is painfully bad to watch and I had to turn it off.
No disrespect meant but I just get these measured movies and it's not my problem whether it's painful or not!
It is completely your choice to watch them or not.

TBH...I really don't care what people think of any movie...
As it's been said in the past, movie's are 100% subjective but measurements are 100% FACTS.

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PS. The first fight scene (at approx 15 minute mark) has an incredible amount of bass!!!
Did you even turn your subs "ON" ?
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No I can't...


No disrespect meant but I just get these measured movies and it's not my problem whether it's painful or not!
It is completely your choice to watch them or not.

TBH...I really don't care what people think of any movie...
As it's been said in the past, movie's are 100% subjective but measurements are 100% FACTS.

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PS. The first fight scene (at approx 15 minute mark) has an incredible amount of bass!!!
Did you even turn your subs "ON" ?
All I asked was a simple question. I don't need you lecturing me on anything regarding movie quality nor did I blame you for the movie being bad. lighten up, Francis.
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Bass in Gods of Egypt does rock !

perfect example of a pretty decent movie made excellent in a good home theatre purely for the visuals and audio
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When Ra the Sun god does his thing, that's some great bass in Gods of Egypt
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I want to get back into capturing graphs but spectrum is not playing nice with me. I can't get the red line (average) to show up when analyzing a wav. The option is checked in the settings and the red line shows up when capturing from my sound card but not when analyzing Anyone have any ideas? or if someone can upload their settings file.

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Bass in Gods of Egypt does rock !

perfect example of a pretty decent movie made excellent in a good home theatre purely for the visuals and audio
But the Blu-ray will be released only in another ten days...May 31st.
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Did the first two Train Your Dragons last night. I have 3D and did both in 3D. Cute movies. There was some nice bass in both but as compared to Wrath of the Titans, Spectre, Return of the King, U571, didn't notice that much bone crushing couch shaking bass.

Some? Yes. But would not consider either Train Your Dragons as a show case for "Here honey, listen to our new subwoofer and why we spent....."
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Did the first two Train Your Dragons last night. I have 3D and did both in 3D. Cute movies. There was some nice bass in both but as compared to Wrath of the Titans, Spectre, Return of the King, U571, didn't notice that much bone crushing couch shaking bass.

Some? Yes. But would not consider either Train Your Dragons as a show case for "Here honey, listen to our new subwoofer and why we spent....."
What subs do you have? The first HTTYD might be the best LFE move I have ever watched. The second might be the biggest LFE disappointment in history given the first.

I think people should list their subs when saying a movie was not impressive/impressive.

I have 4 JTR S2's.
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PSA S1500

The bass from several other movies quite pronounced and enjoyable. Live Free of Die Hard really rocks.

It is interesting they went from DolbyTrueHD to DTS MA from first to second release.

There was some nice bass here and there. Not absent. Just not what I'd consider a movie to seal the deal with wife factor regarding the SW.

Spectre when the older big dude lands on the table when Bond is attending the Illuminati type meeting, that guy lands on the table, our couch vibrates.

So I have more than enough bass......


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"People list there subs..."

"I have 4 JTR S2's."

Well with 4 JTR's Tinkerbell in Peter Pan better have an impressive LFE when she flaps her wings.

So sure, list your subs.

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PSA S1500

The bass from several other movies quite pronounced and enjoyable. Live Free of Die Hard really rocks.

It is interesting they went from DolbyTrueHD to DTS MA from first to second release.

There was some nice bass here and there. Not absent. Just not what I'd consider a movie to seal the deal with wife factor regarding the SW.

Spectre when the older big dude lands on the table when Bond is attending the Illuminati type meeting, that guy lands on the table, our couch vibrates.

So I have more than enough bass......

The S1500 is certainly capable of LFE (depending on room) however if you have a really big room it might not be enough to pressurize down real low (under 20hz). This could be why HTTYD wasn't as impressive as spectre. HTTYD (first one) has been graphed to have much more ULF bass then Spectre.
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The S1500 is certainly capable of LFE (depending on room) however if you have a really big room it might not be enough to pressurize down real low (under 20hz). This could be why HTTYD wasn't as impressive as spectre. HTTYD (first one) has been graphed to have much more ULF bass then Spectre.
Yep. I thinking the same thing. HTTYD gets more and more impressive the lower your subs can dig. My set up does pretty good down to about 12 -14 Hz and I know there is still a lot of ULF that I'm missing out on. The guys digging down into single digits with reference level capabilities are the one's who really get to experience everything this movie has to offer.

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"People list there subs..."

"I have 4 JTR S2's."

Well with 4 JTR's Tinkerbell in Peter Pan better have an impressive LFE when she flaps her wings.

So sure, list your subs.
There are so many factors in how the bass sounds in movies that listing your sub(s) and room cubic feet can help people determine why a movie wasn't impressive for someone.

If you have a 800 cf room with a SB1000 sub, many movies can be impressive where if you have that same sub in a 3000 cf room you will be underwhelmed.

Having 4 JTR S2 subs isn't going to add bass where it isn't if calibrated properly. It just allows for headroom where needed and allows for hearing most of the bass frequencies that are in a soundtrack.
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Lol at httyd not being demo worthy.

And honestly has nothing to do with single digits. When I had ported xv15 it was still outstanding!

Something is wrong w your setup my man
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Lol at httyd not being demo worthy.

And honestly has nothing to do with single digits. When I had ported xv15 it was still outstanding!

Something is wrong w your setup my man
A REW graph may shed some light.

Good point about the setup. Having the right size sub for the room is only part of it. If you have it in the wrong spot it can be underwhelming also, and if not calibrated properly can also be underwhelming.
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Lol at httyd not being demo worthy.

And honestly has nothing to do with single digits. When I had ported xv15 it was still outstanding!

Something is wrong w your setup my man
i agree with this 100%. even when i had one xv15 HTTYD shook the house. at one point, i used the giant dragon crash scene to help calibrate my setup. i pushed the limits until everything was smooth and not hitting the limiter. back then that was certainly one of the most powerful scenes that i had experienced. setup of your system is critical as the wrong spot could create cancellations and nulls that would make it seem less than it is.
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What subs do you have? The first HTTYD might be the best LFE move I have ever watched. The second might be the biggest LFE disappointment in history given the first.

I think people should list their subs when saying a movie was not impressive/impressive.

I have 4 JTR S2's.
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So many variables can effect what we hear....the graphs show what is there, but as others have said...placement, room size, enclosure type, number of subs for headroom/smoothing out the FR, some subs can dig deep but not with much output, others can dig and have the out put, some subs are stronger in the 25 - 50 or 60 hz range. The great thing about this thread is that others take the time out to measure and tell us the possibilities that could be experienced if your a/v rig is capable of it. Also, we get a heads up from people's suggestions on what movies are bass-juicy, thus eliminating some of the legwork and time consuming chore of sitting through countless movies to get our fix.

I was running two SVS PC subs for quite a while (PC 20-39 + and a PC 12- nsd) and there were times when I felt one movie had good bass in it and then threads like this would report that the movie was weak bass wise (and vice versa). Again, depends on all those factors and perhaps others, that I stated above. I now own two PSA V3600's that I am still tweaking to taste (I'm old school - sub crawl, careful placement, room treatments, tune by ear to what you like). Funny thing is I watched TRON last week for like the seventh time but it felt like I was listening to it for the first time in my new theater room and with the new subs. 👍
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"where it isn't if calibrated properly. "

Hence the complete subjectivity of one's "impression". Crank those JTR's hot and you have a whole different impression including neighbors either being amazed or annoyed.

As noted, seems to bother some my impression of How To Train Your Dragon is not a great choice for convincing the wife, I have loads of bass from other choices. Gandalf flying down the absyss chasing his particular demon at the beginning of Two Towers rattles my windows, very much got the wife's nod of approval.

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"where it isn't if calibrated properly. "

Hence the complete subjectivity of one's "impression". Crank those JTR's hot and you have a whole different impression including neighbors either being amazed or annoyed.

As noted, seems to bother some my impression of How To Train Your Dragon is not a great choice for convincing the wife, I have loads of bass from other choices. Gandalf flying down the absyss chasing his particular demon at the beginning of Two Towers rattles my windows, very much got the wife's nod of approval.
But the effects you are referring to could get the nod of approval from a htib sub. So that isn't saying much

If you have spent a lot of money on high quality subs and aren't impressed by the big boy scenes. Then something is wrong.
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If you have spent a lot of money on high quality subs and aren't impressed by the big boy scenes. Then something is wrong.
I would have to agree with Brian on this point...if the subs are capable but the response isn't correlating with the subs capability....then something is amiss
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