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post #26551 of 26718 Old 11-17-2016, 10:31 AM
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Watched Star Trek Beyond yesterday finally. Sort of opened my eyes to the fact that I probably don't really hear the under 20hz stuff anyways, because the sound track sounded good to me. There was a lot of hard hitting bass (which I know is more in the mid to upper bass areas). My guess is I've never heard proper ULF at high output enough to care about the stuff under 20hz.
That's okay. Most people haven't. Even ones that think they have....haven't.
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5 minutes into Jason Bourne. Ummmm.....bass???
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That's okay. Most people haven't. Even ones that think they have....haven't.
ULF is not something that only occurs or originates in "capable setups" It's a natural occurring phenomenon and we hear it all the day long! so your not as special as you think
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ULF is not something that only occurs or originates in "capable setups" It's a natural occurring phenomenon and we hear it all the day long! so your not as special as you think
Yeah so there. And what's with running up your post count with two word posts. And since I'm piling on here, did you even buy your bag of rice yet. That's what I thought.
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Lol okay.
Just razzing you Scott I gave up on chasing extreme ULF and spl when I first heard a 5 1/4" midrange driver coupled with two Rockford Fosgate 15" the Punch subs all ran off a Punch 150 amp. That was the most revelatory thing that's ever happened to me in audio playback and a sound I pursued after ever since. I don't fool myself as being one of the bottom dwellers nor claim to, but what I've achieved in my setup is top to bottom balance and coherence with a midrange (the Chi of sound) to die for and a rock solid foundation (lower bass) and highs (icing on the cake) tingle the spin
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I know. I wasn't offended. Though I was not making any kind of reflection of my own system at all. It's okay. But often people DO mistake 30-40hz bass for real ULF. I see that in this thread nearly every day. Some people have the system capable of reproducing ULF but they can't recognize it.

That's what I meant.

And no... not keeping a bag of rice in my HT room. It's already an ugly mess, never to be HToTM material because....looks and brand name recognition.
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Geez. Who has the biggest ****?
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And what's with running up your post count with two word posts.
Nobody on this site likes my longer, helpful/useful posts anymore for some reason. They often go unnoticed or I get actively bitched out. That and I usually get a laugh or two from my useless short posts or picture response posts.

So I have little incentive to be helpful anymore on AVS. I don't enjoy that but it's how it's been for a while. It's okay. There are plenty of experts to spare around here.
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Geez. Who has the biggest ****?
Damn
And thanks for making my point.
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LOL!

I can appreciate Scott's sense of humor,
Got a heep of it in several Yamaha/Atmos threads

The no words, gif-reply posts are Classic!


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Not a Scott fan after he's chastised me a few times....but I highly respect his opinion. And his setup is insane.

Edit: when u r in kc I will show u an atmos setup. Not that u don't have one. But it's my passion.
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Nobody on this site likes my longer, helpful/useful posts anymore for some reason. They often go unnoticed or I get actively bitched out. That and I usually get a laugh or two from my useless short posts or picture response posts.

So I have little incentive to be helpful anymore on AVS. I don't enjoy that but it's how it's been for a while. It's okay. There are plenty of experts to spare around here.
No way Scott your a driving force around here and your post can be the high light of my day at times and the helpful stuff! is well helpful and part of the reason were all here


Do your thing man and let the chips fall where they may!
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Nobody on this site likes my longer, helpful/useful posts anymore for some reason. They often go unnoticed or I get actively bitched out. That and I usually get a laugh or two from my useless short posts or picture response posts.

So I have little incentive to be helpful anymore on AVS. I don't enjoy that but it's how it's been for a while. It's okay. There are plenty of experts to spare around here.

I reached a saturation point in some of "those" threads too,
where just trying to be helpful was much more work than it was worth.

In frustration after repeating myself constantly to people who just did not comprehend or care to learn anything,
I found myself getting a little more sarcastic and less inclined to help (Yamaha threads).

I witnessed firsthand how thick headed n00bs who refused to do any research on their own, let alone RTFM
and wanted to be spoon fed step by step instructions for everything every couple weeks.
as a result I've turned off notifications on those threads and only pop in occasionally.

I actually remember the day you left, (Yamaha AVR thread) shortly after someone suggested You edit the First post in the thread
(even though you were not the OP) and it was somehow your "duty" to create a FAQ because you were the most knowledgeable.

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Back to The BASS !!

I finally watched The Art of Flight AND The Fourth Phase back to back.

A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!!

I kind of liked AoF a little more,
The Dolby Intro and the first chapter alone makes for a Great Demo!
for 7.4.4 (Dolby DSU) Audio, LFE, ULF and my home IMAX screen and JVC PJ.

Avalanche scenes were off the freaking charts!













Right about here the video went slow motion and the Helicopter rotors went ULF ! Awesome



The Music was Excellent as well, I immediately recognized M83's Outro
also used in Cloud Atlas, the HBO series Versailles, they also provided a lot of the tracks for Oblivion.




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Was the bass comparable in TFP to AoF Pio in general? Still haven't watched this yet and tom night I have Alice 2 and the new X Men on tap or maybe TFA 3d.

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Was the bass comparable in TFP to AoF Pio in general? Still haven't watched this yet and tom night I have Alice 2 and thenew X Men on tap or may e TFA 3d.
To be honest, I re-watched AoF and want to give TFP one more spin before I decide,
For the most part it was just as good, but somehow not quite up to the original (sequels rarely are)
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To be honest, I re-watched AoF and want to give TFP one more spin before I decide,
For the most part it was just as good, but somehow not quite up to the original (sequels rarely are)
My favorite overall part (not just bass) of AoF is during the section where the Youngbloods song Naked and Famous is playing. ...that is going to be hard to top in the sequel!
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Nobody on this site likes my longer, helpful/useful posts anymore for some reason. They often go unnoticed or I get actively bitched out. That and I usually get a laugh or two from my useless short posts or picture response posts.

So I have little incentive to be helpful anymore on AVS. I don't enjoy that but it's how it's been for a while. It's okay. There are plenty of experts to spare around here.
I feel like I represent those on AVS that read but don't post often.
When I see a long post come up on a topic I am interested in, I scan to the left to see who the poster is before deciding if I should read it. If you are the poster it's a 100% read every time outcome. I have benefited greatly from yours and others posts and my HT enjoyment has been improved out of site in the years I have been here.
Thank you for taking the time to share in the past, I hope you continue to do so in the future.
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Back to The BASS !!

I finally watched The Art of Flight AND The Fourth Phase back to back.

A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!!

I kind of liked AoF a little more,
The Dolby Intro and the first chapter alone makes for a Great Demo!
for 7.4.4 (Dolby DSU) Audio, LFE, ULF and my home IMAX screen and JVC PJ.

Avalanche scenes were off the freaking charts!













Right about here the video went slow motion and the Helicopter rotors went ULF ! Awesome



The Music was Excellent as well, I immediately recognized M83's Outro
also used in Cloud Atlas, the HBO series Versailles, they also provided a lot of the tracks for Oblivion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzsWMcHX8mI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34FhtJ-L-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu9_HnA9OSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mkUp1V3ys0
You just posted pics and links to basically my go-to music and video 30 minute demo if that is all the time I have. All the way down to the oblivion theme with Susanne sundfor. Awesome awesome awesome stuffs!
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ULF is not something that only occurs or originates in "capable setups" It's a natural occurring phenomenon and we hear it all the day long! so your not as special as you think


You would think people would recognize what hollow bass sounds like by now since it does happen naturally. Stand next to a train passing by and then filter out the bass below 20hz, you would know something was off or wrong.
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You would think people would recognize what hollow bass sounds like by now since it does happen naturally. Stand next to a train passing by and then filter out the bass below 20hz, you would know something was off or wrong.
I don't typically just hang out watching trains pass by, but when I do, I filter out the 20hz and below. Just keeps me on point for disappointing movie soundtracks.
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You would think people would recognize what hollow bass sounds like by now since it does happen naturally. Stand next to a train passing by and then filter out the bass below 20hz, you would know something was off or wrong.
True indeed! Just to bad its not always recorded that way
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You could fill your room with the best subs on the planet and it wouldn't have made a difference with Star Trek Beyond
...there is literally nothing on the disc below 30Hz to hear (or feel) no matter how capable your system is.

That's what all the fuss is about



Even people with modest subbage that can reach 20Hz lost out on what "could" have been.

The First Star Trek reboot (2009) was a 5-Star Bass flick.
Good lord!! no wonder I was so underwhelmed. I didn't consciously notice the lack of bass specifically but I went into sort of an audio/video depression after watching that one
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All I can find on Amazon for fourth phase and art of flight is DVD????
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All I can find on Amazon for fourth phase and art of flight is DVD????
https://www.amazon.com/Art-Flight-DV...flight+blu+ray

Worth every penny!

TFP can be bought in a few places. I got mine here and they had a 20% off sale at the time (not sure if they still do) and they throw in a bonus dvd which was the best deal I could find on this one.

http://www.actionsportsvideo.com/the...e-dvd-blu-ray/
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All I can find on Amazon for fourth phase and art of flight is DVD????
If you want both, the combo pack (DVD + BD) for AoF and TFP
(All 4 discs) is at amazon.com here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That's the one I got...

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Thanks Pio

I went ahead and bought that link on Amazon. That was the one I was looking at. But it says DVD. No where does it say BD.
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The "beating the head against the wall feeling" is fun stuff, isn't it. I got guys in the 2.35 threads here that are giving "expert" advice on how stupid it is to buy an Anamorphic Lens and waste all that money instead of zooming. Oh and btw, they've never owned or experienced an A Lens. The problem is too much AV without the S. The name needs to be changed to AVEgo.
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Thanks Pio

I went ahead and bought that link on Amazon. That was the one I was looking at. But it says DVD. No where does it say BD.
Weird , when I load that page it read Combo Pack DVD/Bluray 4Discs




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