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Also watched Warcraft which had excellent audio/bass I thought, but the film lost me. I assume the movie makes more sense and is generally more enjoyable if you've played the game which I haven't?
I played the game and while the movie made sense to me, it was a bit of a let down. I was not a fan.
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There was a lot of bass in Warcaft. I'm not familiar with the game. The storyline was OK. A tibe trying to keep it's old way. This one may need to watch twice to get the full plot.
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What software are you guys using to make the frequency response charts?
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What software are you guys using to make the frequency response charts?
I want to know too - and what type of mic :-)
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I believe Fatshaft and MrGrey were using SpecLab

The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts

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What software are you guys using to make the frequency response charts?
I want to know too - and what type of mic :-)
I don't know the software various people use, but my understanding is there's no microphone involved to make these bass frequency response charts as the audio track frequency and levels are read directly from the source (dvd, bluray, and/or file) as it's encoded, and not from the in room response using a microphone to pick up sound waves. Recording the film live with a microphone would have way too much variation based on each room/setup's unique response.

Unless you meant people's REW produced bass response graphs for their room and what measuring equipment they use, that's a whole different topic.
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Download speclab: http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html

Download the attached "Fatshaft setting.zip", extract zip and load the settings file INI in Speclab.

You want to convert the movie audio to multiple wav files or a multichannel flac using eac3to so it can be loaded into Audacity. Example:
eac3to c:\myaudio c:\myaudio.wavs -no2ndpass
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eac3to c:\myaudio c:\myaudio.flac -no2ndpass

Load the multiple wav files or flac file in Audacity. You want to use the Amplify effect to lower all the channels EXCEPT for LFE by -20.25db. Then lower LFE by -10.25db. Now merge all tracks to a single mono file by going to tracks- mix & render. Export audio as a wav.

In speclab, audio file stream & analysis - analyse audio file (without dsp), select your wav file, under speed (w/o replay) set it to fast. Thats it!


The other option is to use the lfe output on your receiver, connect it to your soundcard line in and have speclab analyse that. You'll need to calibrate the lfe output by using a home theater calibration disc.
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Kung Fu Panda (KFP)

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I just watched kungfu panda 3 and thought it was a good movie with some good bass also. The bass was used pretty well throughout the movie. Any graphs for this one?

KFP1 is the star of this particular movie trio....just in case you haven't seen that one yet. lol
I have watched it at least 7 times and not always with my two little sons either.


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You guys weren't joking about STB....most disappointing bass film since the Hobbit. This didn't surprise me as I had seen the graph and read all the comments, but what did surprise me is how bad the film was (IMO). I made it an hour before shutting it off. Loved the first film, liked the second, but this third installment did nothing for me.

Also watched Warcraft which had excellent audio/bass I thought, but the film lost me. I assume the movie makes more sense and is generally more enjoyable if you've played the game which I haven't?

SO glad I rented both of these as I would have been pissed had I wasted my hard earned $$$ on either!

I just like the Star Trek franchise reboot and thoroughly enjoy them all. I love the cast and their chemistry....but I could say it's the weakest of the three...including in the bass department. Although, as I have stated before...there is plenty of bass effect, just not low bass effect. I can agree on Warcraft...the movie felt like it was rushing through lots and lots of folklore that would probably be too much for one movie to try to really flesh out. Thus, it just never got me to care enough about the characters or fully enjoy it as a film (never played the game and know nothing about it other than it has always looked really cool/fun)...but it was great eye and ear candy with nice bass moments scattered throughout.
I also kept thinking, I'd like to pork that Orc - - throughout most of the movie...LOL
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Mechanic Resurrection - OH DANG!!!

MR was an ok Atmos mix with hyper-digital looking video and really bad writing/acting/directing. But for some reason was fun as heck...sound mix was over cooked but exciting, fight sequences were awesome, and the "kill" prep scenes were pretty cool too.


But the star of the show was DAT BASS...my twin baddies were just pumping bass frequencies through the room. No need for butt kickers with this flick. Even the chopper blades were punching heavy...explosions were fun as heck...and my garage door was beggin' for mercy (which is a sure tell sign that there are some 20 hz and lower bass hits going on in my room).


Don't Breathe and Marauders coming up on the menu this weekend!!!


All about the bass....that bass...no treble!!!
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I just like the Star Trek franchise reboot and thoroughly enjoy them all. I love the cast and their chemistry....but I could say it's the weakest of the three...including in the bass department. Although, as I have stated before...there is plenty of bass effect, just not low bass effect. I can agree on Warcraft...the movie felt like it was rushing through lots and lots of folklore that would probably be too much for one movie to try to really flesh out. Thus, it just never got me to care enough about the characters or fully enjoy it as a film (never played the game and know nothing about it other than it has always looked really cool/fun)...but it was great eye and ear candy with nice bass moments scattered throughout.
I also kept thinking, I'd like to pork that Orc - - throughout most of the movie...LOL

Lol! I'm not gonna lie.....I kept thinking about some Ork-Porkin in that film as well. Those two jumbo teeth sticking out of her mouth could be dangerous though!

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No need for butt kickers with this flick. !!!
Buttkickers (or Crowsons) aren't needed for any bass film, but they take EVERY great bass film to the next level (assuming they are implemented well), especially if your in a carpet over concrete room. My dual buttkickers mounted to my platform (which my couch sits on) are still without question the best upgrade I have ever made in this hobby and add a tactile sensation that my 4 higher powered subs in my small sealed room simply cant.

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Watched Don't Breathe today. Took my breath away! Nice bass. Can't wait till I can watch it at a decent volume.

Have you guys noticed that certain movies rattle certain things and sometimes new things?
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Watched Don't Breathe today. Took my breath away! Nice bass. Can't wait till I can watch it at a decent volume.

Have you guys noticed that certain movies rattle certain things and sometimes new things?
I'm the king of cheesy horror flicks. I'm 2/2 on don't breathe and dead room recommendation. Total crap movies IMO. And that's why they're so great. Mix in the ULF to break crap and I'm sold!!!!!

I'll keep the cheese recommendations coming!!!
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Watched Don't Breathe today. Took my breath away! Nice bass. Can't wait till I can watch it at a decent volume.



Have you guys noticed that certain movies rattle certain things and sometimes new things?


I believe it has to do with resonant frequency. When I ran a 30hz test tone on my room it would rattle the door of the electrical panel in the rear of the room, but only the 30hz tone did it.


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I believe it has to do with resonant frequency. When I ran a 30hz test tone on my room it would rattle the door of the electrical panel in the rear of the room, but only the 30hz tone did it.


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Sounds about right. Everything has a resonate freq. The 2nd grenade in WWZ shook the window in my front door.

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I'm the king of cheesy horror flicks. I'm 2/2 on don't breathe and dead room recommendation. Total crap movies IMO. And that's why they're so great. Mix in the ULF to break crap and I'm sold!!!!!

I'll keep the cheese recommendations coming!!!
Pulse is a good example of cheese that does damage.
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Lol! I'm not gonna lie.....I kept thinking about some Ork-Porkin in that film as well. Those two jumbo teeth sticking out of her mouth could be dangerous though!



Buttkickers (or Crowsons) aren't needed for any bass film, but they take EVERY great bass film to the next level (assuming they are implemented well), especially if your in a carpet over concrete room. My dual buttkickers mounted to my platform (which my couch sits on) are still without question the best upgrade I have ever made in this hobby and add a tactile sensation that my 4 higher powered subs in my small sealed room simply cant.
Yeah...them teeth would definitely be an obstacle.

As for the buttkickers/crowsons....you got me mighty intrigued. I had commented a while back, either here or in the PSA thread, about a tactile transducer system most likely being my next upgrade due to getting plenty of bass with my v3600's, being totally satisfied with the picture my 1080p JVC RS4910 puts out, and being an Atmos devotee...and after reading your emphatic post...I am getting an itch in my pockets with Christmas and tax money both right around the corner.
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Yeah...them teeth would definitely be an obstacle.

As for the buttkickers/crowsons....you got me mighty intrigued. I had commented a while back, either here or in the PSA thread, about a tactile transducer system most likely being my next upgrade due to getting plenty of bass with my v3600's, being totally satisfied with the picture my 1080p JVC RS4910 puts out, and being an Atmos devotee...and after reading your emphatic post...I am getting an itch in my pockets with Christmas and tax money both right around the corner.
brahman12, agree with Toe on this one. I too have 2 buttkickers, and they are fun and go down lower than my PSA subs. The best part is that I can turn the amp for them up later at night, when I can't crank a movie at midnight, I still get to feel the couch shake without waking the wife
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