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Bass demo material just wasn't there for me with the dd track. Also it could be I just didn't pay that much attention to the audio since the second half of the movie was pretty engrossing.

Oh, and I was already POd about the neutered sound track and didn't care too much how it sounded. I was at only -18db and I normally watch movies at -15 to -10.
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Bass demo material just wasn't there for me with the dd track. Also it could be I just didn't pay that much attention to the audio since the second half of the movie was pretty engrossing.

Oh, and I was already POd about the neutered sound track and didn't care too much how it sounded. I was at only -18db and I normally watch movies at -15 to -10.
Make sure you let Redbox know that having lossy sound on blu ray discs is unacceptable. Every time it has happened to me I complain.
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The avr will automatically select the right format. The Neural X on the Pionner is similar to Atmos for object based playback. I've become spoiled and like the object base playback of the legacy formats like Dolby True HS, DTS Master, etc.

The bass was good and I liked the movie. I may get it on Bluray for the right price.
If your receiver auto selects the right format, and it's encoded in DD, then it would utilize the object based Dolby Surround Upmixer (DSU), instead of Neural X, which is tied to DTS based audio tracks. I know D&M receivers allow you to select whichever upmixer you prefer and it saves it per format and source, and I assume it's the same with Pioneer on Atmos capable receivers...not really important.

Glad you liked Hacksaw! I thought it was terrific, and we're replaying it tomorrow night again for company. The second half is just a ridiculous bassfest.

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haha F%$K Sony Pictures!!!
i really hate this company!.
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haha F%$K Sony Pictures!!!
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crap films and this disgusting practice is just a recipe for death.







Wow so for those of us waiting for OLED prices to come down to get into the 4k game, we have to also be maxed out at 5.1 when this happens?
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**** Sony... Can't stand them!

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fantastic beasts has a lot of bass throughout. it's a fun one.
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The avr will automatically select the right format. The Neural X on the Pionner is similar to Atmos for object based playback. I've become spoiled and like the object base playback of the legacy formats like Dolby True HS, DTS Master, etc.

The bass was good and I liked the movie. I may get it on Bluray for the right price.
There are no objects in legacy formats but agree the upmixers are cool. I would highly suggest if you're set up for Atmos to get this disc, it puts all Atmos mixes to shame

Hacksaw Ridge was just pure cinema excellence
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I'm suprised you say there is not a lot of replay value. I thought the second half alone was worth replay just for bass demo, also I liked the movie. Nothing wrong with your opinion just saying
agree with newc33! Real good demo stuff here!
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fantastic beasts has a lot of bass throughout. it's a fun one.
Yeap, I posted in the new bass thread started by Mcgrey. I think we should move our movie with bass discussion over there so graph can be posted and the master list can be updated. Just my opinion.
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Wow so for those of us waiting for OLED proves to come down to get into the 4k game, we have to also be maxed out at 5.1 when this happens?
Having the audio remastered by DTS and Dolby in varying levels of quality for the same movie doesn't make a lot of sense to me, all just to avoid a Dolby licensing fee on the bluray? I still don't get it; this is very strange. I know the HD audio tracks require a little more storage space, but this is getting ridiculous. Has anyone found a definitive reason for these practices?

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Having the audio remastered by DTS and Dolby in varying levels of quality for the same movie doesn't make a lot of sense to me, all just to avoid a Dolby licensing fee on the bluray? I still don't get it; this is very strange. I know the HD audio tracks require a little more storage space, but this is getting ridiculous. Has anyone found a definitive reason for these practices?
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more.....tbh, there are some 4k discs I would've purchased over the blu-ray if the atmos track was only on the 4k disc and not the blu-ray, but if I can get the same quality atmos track for half the price, they can keep their UHD disc; you know the studios and a/v equipment manufacturers want you to upgrade all of your stuff. $$$$$$$$
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Ugh.

So like...20th Century Fox does this as well. Lionsgate too, IIRC. Disney doesn't put their Atmos at all (yet).

You hate all them too?



I mean, if you think that is irritating....think about the guys who bought the first copy of The Martian on UHD. Two months later, Fox releases the Extended Cut with Atmos.
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Ugh.

So like...20th Century Fox does this as well. Lionsgate too, IIRC. Disney doesn't put their Atmos at all (yet).

You hate all them too?



I mean, if you think that is irritating....think about the guys who bought the first copy of The Martian on UHD. Two months later, Fox releases the Extended Cut with Atmos.
My problem is with ATMOS releases getting 5.1 on the standard blu-ray. if it had 7.1 i would be happy but 5.1 is just sticking it to the customers.

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My problem is with ATMOS releases getting 5.1 on the standard blu-ray. if it had 7.1 i would be happy but 5.1 is just sticking it to the customers.

Usually we would get at least 7.1 audio.

Maybe Passengers was a 5.1 based Atmos theatrical mix? Anyway...who cares about Passengers?


But let's be real. You need to step up to UHD and get over the fact that BD is getting shafted with Atmos titles now. Studios want us to buy UHD now.
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I'm surprised this doesn't happen more.....tbh, there are some 4k discs I would've purchased over the blu-ray if the atmos track was only on the 4k disc and not the blu-ray, but if I can get the same quality atmos track for half the price, they can keep their UHD disc; you know the studios and a/v equipment manufacturers want you to upgrade all of your stuff. $$$$$$$$
Just one more reason physical media is dying...pricing. Asking $30 a movie now and we wonder why most people are content streaming it for a few bucks or waiting until it's available for free. If they want to leave off HD audio as a driving motivator behind home theater upgrades, not sure what their incentive will be in a few years when digital sales of average quality audio and video dominate the market. Last I read, digital sales surpassed discs for the first time in 2016, same with video games, and the fact the the vast majority of people don't care about the quality offered much above DVD A/V, speaks volumes to where the industry is heading. Makes me a little sad to think where the industry will be in 10-20 years even.

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Watching Thor last night had me wondering when the last time I watched that movie was... "was it really before I installed my big subs 3 or 4 years ago?" Either way, that is one vicious soundtrack. It's rare that I think a movie is TOO dynamic but that one had me going up and down with the volume trying to find a happy medium. ::dialogue-only scene:: "Oh, that's not that loud, let me crack it up a few dBs" ::cue earth shattering volume levels:: "MOTHER OF GOD!!" ::turns volume back down::
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Could someone get a mod to close this thread so that all traffic can now be directed to the new thread? I think having two threads actively discussing the same topic is redundant.
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Bump for @MrGrey

One of my old favorites, 9 that needs to be added to the Ultimate list.

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...also found "9" that was mentioned a couple pages back.
(have not seen that graph on AVS either) I hope its okay to post these here



I remember buying that one way back around ~ 2009, great flick, great bass!

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The movie 9 was never meant to be a movie. It was a PHd. student's short project for his degree. It has remained one of the most potent bass movies with a few touches from Tim Burton.
I just replayed it this weekend and it's Still Awesome!

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One of my old favorites, 9 that needs to be added to the Ultimate list.





I just replayed it this weekend and it's Still Awesome!
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Could someone get a mod to close this thread so that all traffic can now be directed to the new thread? I think having two threads actively discussing the same topic is redundant.
Agree and make the other thread a sticky.
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Could someone get a mod to close this thread so that all traffic can now be directed to the new thread? I think having two threads actively discussing the same topic is redundant.
Agreed. We gotta kill this thread and all move over to the new one.

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