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Scott Simonian's Avatar Scott Simonian 05:06 PM 02-24-2012
The LMS-R15's are pretty sweet!

bossobass 06:32 PM 02-24-2012
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How do you know, we don't have the T/S parameters to know for sure. I know when I did the same test with the same equipment(not amps), the CHT system went 4 dB's higher at 10 hz with 10%THD. Either way I have plenty of displacement. I am very intrigued by the LMSR 15's in a dual opposed sealed system. Smaller and killer!

I know, trust me.

Bosso
MKtheater's Avatar MKtheater 07:26 PM 02-24-2012
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I know, trust me.

Bosso

Well like I said I still have enough displacement for my 2100 cubic foot room. I am still curious though. I still need EQ either way and some form of boost.
Mpray1983's Avatar Mpray1983 10:41 PM 02-24-2012
Do you guys think two LMSR 15's in two separate enclosures would beat out 2 dual opposed rss390-HF's (4x subs) if I give each sub 3cf in their respective cabs? The cost is pretty close and I can save on space going with the single units.
Intimdtr77's Avatar Intimdtr77 12:52 AM 02-25-2012
I don't think I saw Kick Ass in the list. How was this movie with regards to LFE?

I thought it was a good movie, but I haven't seen it with my new setup in the new house.
Gary J's Avatar Gary J 05:34 AM 02-25-2012
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I don't think I saw Kick Ass in the list. How was this movie with regards to LFE?

Bazooka? !!!
Flageborg's Avatar Flageborg 05:46 AM 02-25-2012
Kick-Ass chapter 9 - shooting scene at end of chapter - -movie



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Oklahoma Wolf's Avatar Oklahoma Wolf 07:20 AM 02-25-2012
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I don't think I saw Kick Ass in the list. How was this movie with regards to LFE?

I voted 4.5 stars in the old thread on that one. It does have moments.
mrcoop's Avatar mrcoop 08:36 AM 02-25-2012
kick ass was fun in the lf department.

Watched drive last night...There was know quantity of bass...several scenes where the bass was good but it was very very brief.
SaviorMachine's Avatar SaviorMachine 09:32 AM 02-25-2012
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kick ass was fun in the lf department.

Watched drive last night...There was know quantity of bass...several scenes where the bass was good but it was very very brief.

Agreed, Drive isn't a bass-fest like Inception or Hot Fuzz. It has just a handful of sudden, extreme bass moments, jarring and scary each one.
I think the blu-ray's audio recording is terrific overall, though, and of course it's a much better film than lots of movies that get five stars for bass, so hey
kemiza's Avatar kemiza 12:55 PM 02-25-2012
I thought this thread was about BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts. Why are we talking about subwoofer enclosures?
maxmercy's Avatar maxmercy 04:53 PM 02-25-2012
Not movies, but trailers from

www.demo-world.eu

Some of the best:

Dolby Bit Harvest (quite short but POWERFUL):


Dolby Catalyst (digs deeper, but not as loud):


Dolby Countdown 2 (I like the overall sound of Dolby Countdown 1, but this is a bass thread):


Dolby Spheres (GREAT Trailer, and again, not super low, but powerful):


DTS Animated Logo (newer trailer, digs deep, but not as loud):


With a program like MultiAVCHD (free), you can make your own trailer demo discs. It generates menus and everything. I have not listened to the lossless versions of these trailers, as I do not have a BD write drive (on wishlist), but that should not affect the LFE channel as much. These trailers make me want to upgrade to 7.1, just to see howmuch more envelopment takes place.

JSS
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maxmercy's Avatar maxmercy 05:02 PM 02-25-2012
Some other notables (some are SD, not HD):

DTS SFX (short, packs a great punch, and some ULF):


DTS Sparks (older trailer, but still nice with upconversion):


THX Amazing Life (many have experienced its goodness):


THX Broadway (this is a newer trailer, with the 'older' sound):


THX Broadway 2000 (great upper bass sweep in the mixdown (120-60Hz) before the deep note; it's amazing how upper bass can lend more of a tactile feel than lower bass, yet we often ignore it on this thread):


Most older THX trailers do not have the 18Hz component. The oldest have their fundamental above 40Hz, and others are in the 30-35Hz region. Newer THX trailers have their fundamental at 18Hz.

JSS
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maxmercy's Avatar maxmercy 05:10 PM 02-25-2012
And finally,

The trailer that made me upgrade from a basic sub-satellite system to the rig I run now:

THX Cavalcade (the HD version of this is not as powerful as the SD. I have not tried the lossless version, though):


This was the trailer at the beginning of the StarWars DVDs. It was this trailer that bottomed out my old 12" sealed sub, and started the whole HT DIY audio 'hobby' in me. I went from the sealed sub to a 30Hz folded horn, to two large 22Hz folded horns that give me 15Hz capability from two 15" drives and only 500W. Needless to say, I cannot appreciate the 10Hz content in some of these, but they are fun nonetheless....

Without this trailer, I would have no idea what 'reference level' even means....pretty amazing how 19 seconds of sound can change your life...

JSS
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tojo_m's Avatar tojo_m 10:39 PM 02-25-2012
I watched that movie the other night in blu ray and even at moderate volumes (something like -18db) the doors and cabinets in my house were rattling away, something I have not experienced before with other movies except Tron.
the_abbot's Avatar the_abbot 11:55 PM 02-25-2012
Watched troll Hunter again tonight. The LFE scenes in this film were ALOT of fun!
nube's Avatar nube 07:17 AM 02-26-2012
I agree with regards to Troll Hunter, and wonder why it was very arbitrarily placed at a 3.5 after almost no discussion of it. It has the bass quantity on the level of many of the 4.0 movies, and perhaps a couple of the 4.5's. Plus, it's fun, and reasonably well-written and well-acted for a cheesy monster movie.

I think this has been talked about before, but is there a grading rubric for the star lists?
Toe's Avatar Toe 09:15 AM 02-26-2012
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Originally Posted by kemiza View Post

I thought this thread was about BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts. Why are we talking about subwoofer enclosures?

Not to mention dynamic EQ, etc.......
the_abbot's Avatar the_abbot 10:09 AM 02-26-2012
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I agree with regards to Troll Hunter, and wonder why it was very arbitrarily placed at a 3.5 after almost no discussion of it. It has the bass quantity on the level of many of the 4.0 movies, and perhaps a couple of the 4.5's. Plus, it's fun, and reasonably well-written and well-acted for a cheesy monster movie.

I think this has been talked about before, but is there a grading rubric for the star lists?

Wow... TH only got a 3.5?? I totally disagree with that!
croseiv's Avatar croseiv 05:32 PM 02-26-2012
Agreed! Troll Hunter has lots of LFE. Should be 4-4.5 stars for sure. I watched it last night. It was pretty entertaining.
SbWillie's Avatar SbWillie 07:26 PM 02-26-2012
Now which chart is of the THX 'flowers' (my fav since the Warren opened)??
maxmercy's Avatar maxmercy 08:05 PM 02-26-2012
THX Amazing Life. Good trailer. If you like it, try Dolby Bit Harvest, DTS SFX and Dolby Spheres.

JSS
Scott Simonian's Avatar Scott Simonian 12:12 AM 02-27-2012
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THX Amazing Life. Good trailer. If you like it, try Dolby Bit Harvest, DTS SFX and Dolby Spheres.

JSS

Dude! Fantastic work on those DD/DTS/THX fanfare trailers! I love always love these sound format trailers.

Interesting fact, my favorite THX trailer has been the Cavalcade one also. It was one of the first audio...thingies that really made give the last straw with my last 'name brand' subwoofer. Popped protection every time on it. Built my first DIY object (Adire Tempest vented) and the rest is history.

Good stuff.
maxmercy's Avatar maxmercy 10:25 AM 02-27-2012
Thanks Scott!

It is a PITA to setup to measure this stuff now, so I won't be doing more of these charts anytime soon, unless I have reason to reach the back panel of my receiver, which is wy I did this set, I was doing some cable management...

That Cavalcade trailer has cost me some $$ over time, but I do love the fact that I get better sound in my house than in any of the cinemas in town...there is a new IMAX in town though that I have to check out....

JSS
upstate-avfan-da's Avatar upstate-avfan-da 08:26 PM 02-27-2012
Just watched Real Steel, definitely did not let down especially since a movie with robots must have bass :-)

Probably not much in lower freq but for mid range it had a lot of moments. I would say at least a 4.

Also was not half bad, pretty entertaining.
Hksvr4's Avatar Hksvr4 09:16 PM 02-27-2012
Demo the Black hawk down scene. I have a JTR Captivator 1k watt and nothing impressive there or is it me? I've seen this scene before with a smaller sub and though the sub couldn't reproduce the scene.
qx56's Avatar qx56 09:49 PM 02-27-2012
When the robot walks in the hall and mugs the others on real steal. Thats some low stuff. My 11 year old son was like what Hz do you think that is dad. Then told me it must be close to 20 cuz he felt it more fun heard it. Man I love this kid.
Oklahoma Wolf's Avatar Oklahoma Wolf 09:52 PM 02-27-2012
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When the robot walks in the hall and mugs the others on real steal. Thats some low stuff. My 11 year old son was like what Hz do you think that is dad. Then told me it must be close to 20 cuz he felt it more fun heard it. Man I love this kid.

Close - mostly 22Hz and 43Hz
Scott Simonian's Avatar Scott Simonian 11:39 PM 02-27-2012
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Demo the Black hawk down scene. I have a JTR Captivator 1k watt and nothing impressive there or is it me? I've seen this scene before with a smaller sub and though the sub couldn't reproduce the scene.

Most of the good stuff is ~18hz and below. The Cap is tuned ~20hz sooo....

That's probably why.
dominguez1's Avatar dominguez1 09:05 PM 02-28-2012
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Most of the good stuff is ~18hz and below. The Cap is tuned ~20hz sooo....

That's probably why.

+1

That is a very cool scene...if I had some wind in my room, i'd think I was on the helicopter....it really 'feels' like you're there (I get extension down to 9hz or so).
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