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post #1 of 15 Old 07-19-2011, 12:46 PM - Thread Starter
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Hey guys I'm a complete nubbie here and don't really know much about sound systems, we've never had one before. The new house we have had a Bose Acoustimass 6 installed in the great room (22x19 with about 30' ceiling) but before the previous owners left they took the Base Module leaving the cube speakers pretty much useless...so we're going to sell those and get a new speaker system. So far we have NOTHING, no receiver, no speakers, no sub. We did just get an entertainment center and a new 52" Sharp Aquos. The house has on the opposite wall from the TV a little cubbie hole were the previous receiver, base module, etc was put in (they had a RF controller i believe). I guess my mom doesn't want speakers/bass that will be huge and noticeable but from what I've read thus far, the room is fairly large so we may need some power to get decent acoustics. So here's some guide lines to help guide you for advice for a Bass unit (or any other tips you feel the need to guide me in!)

1.) We do not need the best system by any means
2.) Budget (around $700 total if possible-receiver, speakers (don't necessarily need surround sound at this time), and Sub)
3.)The Cubbie dimensions are about 2'x3'2...i'll try and get exact specs when i get home
4.)Room dimensions 22x19 with ~30 foot ceiling
5.) 50% TV, 30% music, 20% movies
6.) We definitely don't need house shaking bass, and i'm sure my mom doesn't want house vibrations, and really don't listen to loud music with pumping bass
7.) appearance really won't be an issue if it goes into the cubbie hole

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Your room is 12,540 cu. ft.....

With that large it will be next to impossible to fill that room with bass even with $1,000 alone for a subwoofer

1) You won't even be able to afford a decent system on your budget
2) You already have another thread and the fact that now you added receiver need with in your $700 your crazy. Up the budget to $1,000 and we'll be able to work with you alot more
3)Do NOT regulate a subwoofer to a predetermined location cause your location you want to use might be a complete bass null, additionally with your room size and limited budget placement of the subwoofer is going to be key to get performance out of it
4) Again your room is huge and there is no way you will get any good bass out of the size on your meager budget

6) Your not going to get it in your budget so don't worry
7) Again do NOT place the subwoofer in a cubby hole (The decent subwoofers in your price range are rear ported and front firing so putting it in a cubby hole bye bye bass
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Honestly man you sound like you are living at home and on your limited budget I would just by a nice small set-up for your own bedroom it will be much easier to fill with sound and you won't have to deal with your mom's silly requirements. My parents have Bose speakers hooked up to their home stereo and in my room at home I have the speakers that were too large for them, and my current apartment.
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It's good you don't need house shaking bass, because you aren't going to get it. To be honest, with that budget and room, I would just get a couple tower speakers. That room would just swallow up most subwoofers. Do yourself a favor and skip the sub. I would be looking for efficient tower speakers with decent bass, something like BIC Acoustechs or Klipsch. Buying a cheap sub for a large room is throwing away money in many circumstances.
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[/i][/quote] Honestly man you sound like you are living at home and on your limited budget I would just by a nice small set-up for your own bedroom it will be much easier to fill with sound and you won't have to deal with your mom's silly requirements. My parents have Bose speakers hooked up to their home stereo and in my room at home I have the speakers that were too large for them, and my current apartment.[/quote]

I'm just trying to get some advice for my parents house...I appreciate the advice but not the delivery. I don't need speakers in my room, since I don't need to watch TV, sitting in my room alone at night. I just need some speakers to put in where the old ones were and was posting in here, the subwoofer section, to see if there are any recommendations on decent subs at a decent price. And if there aren't any, the just say it plainly, you don't have to get all belittling on me because my parents don't want/need to spend a few grand on something they don't really need.
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Hmmm, $700 is tight for any room, and that room is huge.
Did you guys ever consider finding another bass module for those Bose? That way you can grab a used Bass Module + receiver, and you save the hassle of finding new speakers. Are the current Bose mounted?

If that suggestion is no good for you I'd spend $200-$250 on a (open box or clearance) 5.1 receiver. The remaining $450 on some 2.1 bookshelf + subwoofer setup, and add to it later.

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Hmmm, $700 is tight for any room, and that room is huge.
Did you guys ever consider finding another bass module for those Bose? That way you can grab a used Bass Module + receiver, and you save the hassle of finding new speakers. Are the current Bose mounted?

If that suggestion is no good for you I'd spend $200-$250 on a (open box or clearance) 5.1 receiver. The remaining $450 on some 2.1 bookshelf + subwoofer setup, and add to it later.

Yeah I tried looking around eBay and stuff for a used Base Module, but they're pretty hard to come by apparently...and from what I've read they really aren't that great, so I was trying to find something that would work a little better for us, and sell the speakers putting that towards the new set-up.
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If you shop for gently-used on eBay, Audiogon and craigslist, you should be able to get a decent basic A/V receiver, a pair of L+R speakers (towers, or bookshelf w/ stands) and a used sub for ~$700.

Example:
- a pair of Paradigm (7se, Monitor 3/5/7, Mini Monitors) or Polk or Energy speakers for ~$200
- an Energy S10.3 sub for ~$200 (or less)
- which leaves ~$300 for a receiver (Denon, Yamaha, Pioneer, etc.)
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Are you saying the room is 3 stories tall? Just asking, because for subwoofer advice, room volume matters a great deal. If it's a 2 story great room, that volume estimate may be off by ~50%.
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Yeah I tried looking around eBay and stuff for a used Base Module, but they're pretty hard to come by apparently...and from what I've read they really aren't that great, so I was trying to find something that would work a little better for us, and sell the speakers putting that towards the new set-up.
Well good luck in your search... There is a lot of Bose bashing on the boards but its because they sound OK, but priced way too high. (That and they have a stupid module and not a real subwoofer ) If you already have the majority of the system its more cost (and sound) effective to complete it. If you can't find the module on eBay, try contact Bose directly. I have some really old speakers of my parents that were blown and Bose was willing to sell me the woofers to rebuild the speaker. This was years ago, but perhaps they would be so nice as to sell a Bass Module. That plus $300 for receiver lands you safely in $700, I would assume.

This may be one of rare times I would suggest Bose but I refuse to just blindly hate on them.

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...I tried looking around eBay and stuff....

I found several Bose AM 6 systems or standalone subs on ebay.

I don't know anything about Bose ('cept what I read here on AVS ), but are other Bose bass modules compatible? There's a fair number of Bose bass (not BASE) modules on ebay & CL...maybe another model is compatible. Something for you to research.

Also, it would help if you add your location to your profile (or at least put it in your posting). There might be some other sources near you that folks can recommend.
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Are you saying the room is 3 stories tall? Just asking, because for subwoofer advice, room volume matters a great deal. If it's a 2 story great room, that volume estimate may be off by ~50%.

Yeah it's a 2 story great room, measured it roughly with the tape and I guess it's actually 20ish feet...apparently i'm no good at eyeing measurements! So that's a little over 8000 cubic feet.

And I called Bose a few weeks ago and only the Acoustimass Series III Bass Modules. They said I could get one from them for about $400, and from what I've read and advice I've received I should sell the Cubes and put it towards something else that would fit the room better and be better in general.
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Is it this one for $50 buy it now?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bose-Acoustimass...f#ht_500wt_814

looked like there were a lot on ebay, starting around $25. That first one might not be a series III, but there are others there that say series III
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Is it this one for $50 buy it now?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bose-Acoustimass...f#ht_500wt_814

looked like there were a lot on ebay, starting around $25. That first one might not be a series III, but there are others there that say series III

No it has to be the newest ones either the acoustimass 6 or 10 series III
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JBL Studio Series s38 (2 pair)
JBL Studio Series s-Center
JBL PB10

i found these on Craigslist and was wondering if you guys had any thoughts on how these are or how they would work in my room...and what price should I ask. He also had an old Sony receiver, but i don't want that one...he is asking $400 for everything, but said he'd sell the speakers without the receiver and said make an offer...
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I do recall seeing at least one acoustimass 6 series III bass module on ebay, no bids, a day before expiration.

Bose wouldn't be my choice either, but I thought skidawgz's advice was spot on. It sounds like your parents want to minimize the cost, so it makes sense to keep the speakers and replace what's missing. With that room and that budget, different speakers won't likely make a difference. Instead of speakers, maybe they can invest a bit toward improved room acoustics.

I don't mean to offend, but it sounds like you're in a rush to buy something else, and they are not. Another option is asking the realtor to contact the prior owner. What's not attached was theirs to take unless specified in the contract, but it's possible they intended to leave the bass module as part of the sound system, but the movers packed it. That happens a lot. It's worth asking, they may get the bass module back for the price of shipping.
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