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hey anybody how does the rw 12d sound at low volume
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anyone know what are good subwoofers here for the polk 65t floorstanding speakers that have a small footprint yet good for movies and tv shows?

would a psw10 be sufficient to support the base of polk 65t?

I was wondering how much better are the klipsch rw12d than the velodyne vx-11? Is it worth the price difference? Velodyne vx-11 ($180) vs. Klipsch rw12d ($280)
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Maybe a better a question is how two Velodyne VX-11's compare to a single Klipsch 12d. Velodyne.com is running a special where you can get two VX-11's for $229 shipped. That's still 70 less than the single Klipsch with, I am assuming, better bass distribution. I am trying to convince myself to do it but WAF would be an issue.

***disregard this deal. went to get the link and its gone. I saw it yesterday now it is gone***
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I'm a HT newbie and have a question reqarding a sub purchase. I have a family room about 18' x 20' with a tiled floor and large window on one side. I'm using an HK AVR1700 as my receiver and wanted to upgrade my sub. I know opinions are like a-holes, but I have some general questions regarding speaker design and my situation and would appreciate some input even at the expense of some ridicule.biggrin.gif

Are downward firing subs a no-no on tile floors or less articulate in general?

Ports on the side, back or bottom when placed in a corner?

What size speaker and how much power for that size room?

Thanks in advance. This forum has really taught me a lot, but I still have a ways to go!
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Alright alright...I know...beating many dead horses here but maybe a quick help-me based on my room and other speakers???

20x20 vaulted great room, open to the kitchen, carpeted. I'm using 7 Infinity TSS 1200 satellite speakers (Satellite Frequency Range 120Hz – 30,000Hz +/–3db).

The matching sub is taking a dirt nap, as most are/have and it's time to replace it. I'd love to drop the big bucks but I've got to save that for the basement theater instead.

I've read this entire thread - but didn't really know how to apply it to my settings or preferences. Since this is a main living room it will ultimately be used more for entertaining (think Pandora/Netflix) rather than my basement which will be the big-boy room. I want to be able to turn it up every now and then, and movies do get watched here...but I've no need to nickle and dime spec sheets to death. I consider myself more of an audiophile than most people. Just because I can't afford something doesn't mean I don't know what I missed out on wink.gif

At this point, for $300 I can get either the Klipsch RW-12d or the Cadence CSX-12 MkII. Those are the two I'm considering. I wouldn't turn down another suggestion, but I won't spend more.

Klipsch - Pro/Cons. I like the programmable idea. It sits in a spot where the back isn't very accessible so that would be a plus. (although, has anyone heard of the digital-ness of that panel breaking???) The name, as someone said earlier, might be an easier sell down the road if I ever need to. Cons: It's a bit bigger.

Cadence - Pro/Con. It SEEMS from some of your input that this might be a bit more accurate for listening to music? It looks better to me...the Klipsch does look a little bit UFO. Cons: Not much name recognition (which other than selling I honestly don't care about).

Help? If I don't hear from anyone by tomorrow evening (Klipsch sale ends) I'll be flipping a coin. Thanks!

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Alright alright...I know...beating many dead horses here but maybe a quick help-me based on my room and other speakers???

20x20 vaulted great room, open to the kitchen, carpeted. I'm using 7 Infinity TSS 1200 satellite speakers (Satellite Frequency Range 120Hz – 30,000Hz +/–3db).

The matching sub is taking a dirt nap, as most are/have and it's time to replace it. I'd love to drop the big bucks but I've got to save that for the basement theater instead.

I've read this entire thread - but didn't really know how to apply it to my settings or preferences. Since this is a main living room it will ultimately be used more for entertaining (think Pandora/Netflix) rather than my basement which will be the big-boy room. I want to be able to turn it up every now and then, and movies do get watched here...but I've no need to nickle and dime spec sheets to death. I consider myself more of an audiophile than most people. Just because I can't afford something doesn't mean I don't know what I missed out on wink.gif

At this point, for $300 I can get either the Klipsch RW-12d or the Cadence CSX-12 MkII. Those are the two I'm considering. I wouldn't turn down another suggestion, but I won't spend more.

Klipsch - Pro/Cons. I like the programmable idea. It sits in a spot where the back isn't very accessible so that would be a plus. (although, has anyone heard of the digital-ness of that panel breaking???) The name, as someone said earlier, might be an easier sell down the road if I ever need to. Cons: It's a bit bigger.

Cadence - Pro/Con. It SEEMS from some of your input that this might be a bit more accurate for listening to music? It looks better to me...the Klipsch does look a little bit UFO. Cons: Not much name recognition (which other than selling I honestly don't care about).

Help? If I don't hear from anyone by tomorrow evening (Klipsch sale ends) I'll be flipping a coin. Thanks!

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I'd buy the Cadence just because of the build quality.
Just going thru the Klipsch sale thread there are too many issues with that sub for me that tell me it's not built very well. As soon as some folks get the Klipsch they have to work on it. The port has to be reattached on many of these subs and, personally, I don't like having to work on something that I just bought. The "standby" feature is a hit or miss and even when it works it seems it doesn't really work. It's probably a good sounding sub but it's not for me.

By the way, the Cadence is actually bigger and heavier than the Klipsch if I'm not mistaken.

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Thanks Al. They way I look at it is that if I bought a decent record player and built a kickass fireplace I'd rarely have to worry about finding a ride home because the party comes to me wink.gif
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Thanks Al. They way I look at it is that if I bought a decent record player and built a kickass fireplace I'd rarely have to worry about finding a ride home because the party comes to me wink.gif

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Well I'm just about ready to buy my long over due new sub.I sold my Paradigm PS1000 to a friend.And most recently i bought the Polk Audio PSW111 on sale $230 but returned it because i want the best bang for bucks and prefer a 10" or 12" instead of an 8".I kind of regret returning it because it was a great little sub and Future Shop doesn't carry it any more.So the HSU STF-2 sub is on my cart ready to buy.I didn't like the idea of buying on the Internet especially without hearing the product.But it seems that is the only way to get the best sub woofers available for under $500.So are there any other subs i should consider that would be just as good or better?SVS look really well made and slick,but their cheapest sub is $500 and that's before taxes and shipping.Oh and my main speakers are PSB B6s and also have a pair of Mirage M890i .
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Alright alright...I know...beating many dead horses here but maybe a quick help-me based on my room and other speakers???

20x20 vaulted great room, open to the kitchen, carpeted. I'm using 7 Infinity TSS 1200 satellite speakers (Satellite Frequency Range 120Hz – 30,000Hz +/–3db).

The matching sub is taking a dirt nap, as most are/have and it's time to replace it. I'd love to drop the big bucks but I've got to save that for the basement theater instead.

I've read this entire thread - but didn't really know how to apply it to my settings or preferences. Since this is a main living room it will ultimately be used more for entertaining (think Pandora/Netflix) rather than my basement which will be the big-boy room. I want to be able to turn it up every now and then, and movies do get watched here...but I've no need to nickle and dime spec sheets to death. I consider myself more of an audiophile than most people. Just because I can't afford something doesn't mean I don't know what I missed out on wink.gif

At this point, for $300 I can get either the Klipsch RW-12d or the Cadence CSX-12 MkII. Those are the two I'm considering. I wouldn't turn down another suggestion, but I won't spend more.

Klipsch - Pro/Cons. I like the programmable idea. It sits in a spot where the back isn't very accessible so that would be a plus. (although, has anyone heard of the digital-ness of that panel breaking???) The name, as someone said earlier, might be an easier sell down the road if I ever need to. Cons: It's a bit bigger.

Cadence - Pro/Con. It SEEMS from some of your input that this might be a bit more accurate for listening to music? It looks better to me...the Klipsch does look a little bit UFO. Cons: Not much name recognition (which other than selling I honestly don't care about).

Help? If I don't hear from anyone by tomorrow evening (Klipsch sale ends) I'll be flipping a coin. Thanks!

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Well I'm just about ready to buy my long over due new sub.I sold my Paradigm PS1000 to a friend.And most recently i bought the Polk Audio PSW111 on sale $230 but returned it because i want the best bang for bucks and prefer a 10" or 12" instead of an 8".I kind of regret returning it because it was a great little sub and Future Shop doesn't carry it any more.So the HSU STF-2 sub is on my cart ready to buy.I didn't like the idea of buying on the Internet especially without hearing the product.But it seems that is the only way to get the best sub woofers available for under $500.So are there any other subs i should consider that would be just as good or better?SVS look really well made and slick,but their cheapest sub is $500 and that's before taxes and shipping.Oh and my main speakers are PSB B6s and also have a pair of Mirage M890i .

This is the "List of budget subwoofers ($300 and less)" thread. For the subs you're interested in you should look in that brands thread or start a new thread.
Good luck with your purchase.

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Ok, ok...as luck would have it I sold some stuff (as quoted by Lloyd Christmas in Dumb and Dumber) and gotten myself a little extra cash. While this could perpetually continue to be a "well...for $50 more you could get the..." conversation, what would $400-$450 get me? I had read a while back that there are certain tiers where you start to see pretty distinct quality changes...where's the next plateau start? (taking into account needs for the room I described above?"
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Ok, ok...as luck would have it I sold some stuff (as quoted by Lloyd Christmas in Dumb and Dumber) and gotten myself a little extra cash. While this could perpetually continue to be a "well...for $50 more you could get the..." conversation, what would $400-$450 get me? I had read a while back that there are certain tiers where you start to see pretty distinct quality changes...where's the next plateau start? (taking into account needs for the room I described above?"

This is the "List of budget subwoofers ($300 and less)" thread. You want to go to another thread or start a new one.

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Decided to get the "Value 1 package" from HSU today. Contains their bookshelf speakers and STF-1 combo for only $550.00. Probably overkill for my workshop, but I wanted something that sounded really good. Should be here in a few days... smile.gif

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Yea, for $550 it seems like quite a deal. Congrats.

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anyone know what are good subwoofers here for the polk 65t floorstanding speakers that have a small footprint yet good for movies and tv shows?

would a psw10 be sufficient to support the base of polk 65t?

I was wondering how much better are the klipsch rw12d than the velodyne vx-11? Is it worth the price difference? Velodyne vx-11 ($180) vs. Klipsch rw12d ($280)

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Maybe a better a question is how two Velodyne VX-11's compare to a single Klipsch 12d. Velodyne.com is running a special where you can get two VX-11's for $229 shipped. That's still 70 less than the single Klipsch with, I am assuming, better bass distribution. I am trying to convince myself to do it but WAF would be an issue.

***disregard this deal. went to get the link and its gone. I saw it yesterday now it is gone***

For what it is worth... I was running 2 x Velodyne VX11 (Actually VX11 + VX-10).
then I purchased this Klipsch rw-12d and it blows the vx11 out of the water. No competition.
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Okay I researched and demoed and I've decided not to spend more than $300.It's come down too two pretty damn good 8 inch sub woofers. Polk Audio PSW111 and Paradigm Cinema sub.The PSW111 was actually in my room for about a week and with proper placement and levels sounded really good with music.Which will be the main purpose.The Cinema sub was heard in a store HT room and also sounded very good and powerful especially for the size.The Polk I can get for around $225.The Paradigm is on sale for $199.Some specs on both are the Paradigm has 100Watts RMS/300 Dynamic and goes as low as 32Hz.The Polk Audio has 150WattsRMS/300 Dynamic and goes down to 38Hz.Both are front firing and dual ported BUT,the Polk is down firing while the Paradigm is rear firing.Any help deciding would be appreciated.Oh and this will be for bedroom system for now.Which is my Onkyo TX-SR608 and PSB B6 bookshelves.
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Okay I researched and demoed and I've decided not to spend more than $300.It's come down too two pretty damn good 8 inch sub woofers. Polk Audio PSW111 and Paradigm Cinema sub.The PSW111 was actually in my room for about a week and with proper placement and levels sounded really good with music.Which will be the main purpose.The Cinema sub was heard in a store HT room and also sounded very good and powerful especially for the size.The Polk I can get for around $225.The Paradigm is on sale for $199.Some specs on both are the Paradigm has 100Watts RMS/300 Dynamic and goes as low as 32Hz.The Polk Audio has 150WattsRMS/300 Dynamic and goes down to 38Hz.Both are front firing and dual ported BUT,the Polk is down firing while the Paradigm is rear firing.Any help deciding would be appreciated.Oh and this will be for bedroom system for now.Which is my Onkyo TX-SR608 and PSB B6 bookshelves.

I believe the klipsch 12d is on sale for $279 at newegg with a code. That would be a better coice imho. That sub lists for $999 and reaches down to 24 hz.

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You can get a HSU STF-1 for about 300 bucks too. I just got one and it's fantastic. You'd swear it was a lot bigger and cost a lot more.

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I've contacted HSU and they quoted me on the ST-2.Regular price plus $89 taxes and duties and $140 for shipping.It is a long ship from California to Toronto,Canada.But We always get screwed, in Canada when buying audio electronics.Also Newegg.com doesn't ship to Canada.Only Newegg.ca does.And of course they don't have the Klipsch RD-12.The same place where I can get the Paradigm Cinema sub also has the Paradigm PDR-80 on sale for $230.
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And Best Buy does have the Klipsch SUB12 and KW-100 both on sale for $200 off. I might go demo them.Or I might just save up for the SVS-PB1000 which I can pick up at the local distributor.
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You can get a HSU STF-1 for about 300 bucks too. I just got one and it's fantastic. You'd swear it was a lot bigger and cost a lot more.
So does it sound good with music?And how is the speed and definition?
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What do you guys think is better, the STF-1 or the Outlaw M8?
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What do you guys think is better, the STF-1 or the Outlaw M8?

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And Best Buy does have the Klipsch SUB12 and KW-100 both on sale for $200 off. I might go demo them.Or I might just save up for the SVS-PB1000 which I can pick up at the local distributor.
I've heard the Klipsch Sub-12. IMO, it's a pretty decent sub, especially for $300. But if it was my money to spend - and if, like you, I could save the shipping by picking it up myself - I'd get the SVS PB-1000.
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Since my options were limited due to high shipping costs and budget, I only had a few choices and some of them were to pay "$100 shipping" + for the klipsch RW-12D, the Sub 12 + free shipping, the JBLES250 free shipping and the PL-200 + $50 shipping. I went ahead and got 2 JBL's ES250 for $400 + free shipping....after listening to various decent subs like the PL-200 and other more expensive like the emotiva Xref-12 and customs from ED. I got to say that the ES250 is way underrated, By no means it is a perfect sub but if I compare it with the subs previously mention it holds it's own ground, and I have to say I like it a bit better than the PL-200. Very tight and clean to my ears and it's price point, not boomy and very punchy IMO, I don't expect subterranean frequencies and very high SPL's but I got to say I'm impress. Anybody looking for a decent sub besides the RW12 for $100 more you can get a pair of these and they won't disappoint.

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Since my options were limited due to high shipping costs and budget, I only had a few choices and some of them were to pay "$100 shipping" + for the klipsch RW-12D, the Sub 12 + free shipping, the JBLES250 free shipping and the PL-200 + $50 shipping. I went ahead and got 2 JBL's ES250 for $400 + free shipping

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Hello all,

Thanks to this thread, and a great sale on newegg, I recently upgraded the living room to the Klipsch RW-12d after our much loved Infinity TSS1200 subwoofer went to heaven (actually for the 2nd time, but this time the warranty is expired). The Klipsch is great for that room and sounds awesome with the Infinity surrounds.

I ended up getting the Andrew Jones Pioneer speakers recently for my man cave. The room is much smaller with a lower ceiling than the living room so I'm afraid the 12" sub would be overkill. The room is an 8X13 rectangle.

Anyway, the Pioneer sub is reportedly weak sauce and I'd like suggestions of a budget 8-10" sub that will work great for music and movies with maybe a slightly bigger emphasis on the music performance.

I really like the Klipsch in the living room so far. So, I suppose I could drag it into the man cave and hook it up to see if its overwhelming or not in that space...I just dont want to waste the money if its hardly going to be using any of its power/size.

Another option is to get an external amp for the infinity sub and use it, but I dont know how well it will pair with the Pioneers either, and its pretty huge - almost as large as the Klipsch.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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