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post #1201 of 1633 Old 09-13-2014, 09:51 AM
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The grenade scene doesnt seem like a very worthy test of the overall quality of a subwoofer. The NXG may have port noise when stressed to the limit. I dont know. My buddy doesnt usually listen at very high volume and Ive heard it mostly with music. In a music application the NXG is noticeably more accurate. That and the fact that it plays lower than the F12 makes it worth the extra money to me.

The auto on/off problem is fairly common among subwoofers in general and can easily be overcome simply by leaving it on all the time.
I just use the grenade scene to see how well the sub can handle the low LFE of that scene, not as an overall gauge of the sub itself. The V-1220 does pretty well for music, as well. It's not quite as tight as say the SVS PB-2000, but then again that's a whole other category of subs.

I got rid of the NXG and kept the Klipsch sub-12, which head to head I liked better than the NXG. I'm just speaking from my personal experiences with these subs that I've owned and experimented with. My point was the V-1220 is really a great sub for the price tag and it performs rather well for what it is. I also preferred the V-1220 over the Bic RTR-EV1200, which is a slight variation of the F12.


As for the auto on/off problem, of all the subs I've owned, only the NXG and the Dayton subs had this kind of issue. I wouldn't say it's common, at least not from all the subs I've owned.

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Budget sub for small game/AV room

Hello all, Long time reader of the AVS forums but just recently joined. I am in the process of converting an extra bedroom into a game/AV room. I currently have the following for the room: Denon AVR-1911, RF/LF are Infinity P363's, Center is Infinity PC351, and rears are Klipsch RS-42's. Movies and music 40% each, and gaming the other 20%. The room is roughly 12x12 w/ 8' ceiling. What would be a good, budget sub that would compliment the above mentioned speakers. Any help would be great. Thank you in advance.

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hello all, long time reader of the avs forums but just recently joined. I am in the process of converting an extra bedroom into a game/av room. I currently have the following for the room: Denon avr-1911, rf/lf are infinity p363's, center is infinity pc351, and rears are klipsch rs-42's. Movies and music 40% each, and gaming the other 20%. The room is roughly 12x12 w/ 8' ceiling. What would be a good, budget sub that would compliment the above mentioned speakers. Any help would be great. Thank you in advance.
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Hello all, Long time reader of the AVS forums but just recently joined. I am in the process of converting an extra bedroom into a game/AV room. I currently have the following for the room: Denon AVR-1911, RF/LF are Infinity P363's, Center is Infinity PC351, and rears are Klipsch RS-42's. Movies and music 40% each, and gaming the other 20%. The room is roughly 12x12 w/ 8' ceiling. What would be a good, budget sub that would compliment the above mentioned speakers. Any help would be great. Thank you in advance.
For a small room such as yours, the Klipsch sub-12 would be a great option. It has really impressive output and in that sized room it would really deliver. I have the Infinity P363's and have used the sub-12 with those, in a larger room, and they play very nice together.
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I am thinking about going with the klipsch as I have never experienced the NXG. Thank you for your assistance.

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I bought the NXG NX-BAS 500 based on all the glowing reviews here, but today I'm returning it. Two issues; one may be a defect (combined with poor customer support), the other is just design.

The main reason I'm returning it is because of a constant low-frequency buzz. It's not pleasant. It occurs whenever the sub is plugged in to power and turned on -- it does NOT need any input connected to do this.

When I contacted NXG support about this, I got no response. When I contacted AV House, through which I had purchased the sub on Amazon, they were very responsive, and promptly told me that NXG had contacted them after I sent my first email and informed AV House that my problem was caused by a ground loop, and that I needed to get a ground loop isolator. Amazing! They diagnosed my problem without asking me a single question!! Uh, no. They apparently didn't read my initial message either. (A) I already have a ground loop isolator. (B) This occurs when the sub isn't connected to ANYTHING (except power), so how the hell would a ground loop isolator solve the problem? Also, I moved my old Velodyne 12" down there, plugged it in, and it doesn't get any buzzing even without a GLI. So, defective sub, and it's going back.

The other problem I have is with the auto-on. Its threshold is just way too high. I often listen at low to moderate volume, not blasting it, but still enough that a little bass would be welcome. The NXG wouldn't turn on unless I turned the volume up a little more than I would like for casual evening listening. I don't have this problem with my Velodyne, it's auto-on is sensitive enough to activate even at low volumes.

So, no NXG for me; even though it sounds great, I'm reluctant to order another one if the auto-on behaves the same way; and I'm not entirely confident in their quality after the buzzing experience and the default "it's your fault" response.
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Always loved the Dayton offerings in the sub $200 range. I find the output to be very impressive compared to the cost.
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PE has some B stock SUB-1500's for dirt cheap...

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For a small room such as yours, the Klipsch sub-12 would be a great option. It has really impressive output and in that sized room it would really deliver. I have the Infinity P363's and have used the sub-12 with those, in a larger room, and they play very nice together.
Ok, I have decided to move my RW-12d from the main room to the game room. Now I need something for my main room. The room is 14 x 21 with 8' ceiling. I am thinking of going with dual subs. I prefer front firing, front ported subs. System will be 60/40 movies to music. My choices are Klipsch RW-110's, OSD PS-10's or PS-12's, or Acoustic Audio HD-Sub 10's. Any ideas would help. It's my first time trying to do dual subs. Thanks....

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I bought the NXG NX-BAS 500 based on all the glowing reviews here, but today I'm returning it. Two issues; one may be a defect (combined with poor customer support), the other is just design.

The main reason I'm returning it is because of a constant low-frequency buzz. It's not pleasant. It occurs whenever the sub is plugged in to power and turned on -- it does NOT need any input connected to do this.

When I contacted NXG support about this, I got no response. When I contacted AV House, through which I had purchased the sub on Amazon, they were very responsive, and promptly told me that NXG had contacted them after I sent my first email and informed AV House that my problem was caused by a ground loop, and that I needed to get a ground loop isolator. Amazing! They diagnosed my problem without asking me a single question!! Uh, no. They apparently didn't read my initial message either. (A) I already have a ground loop isolator. (B) This occurs when the sub isn't connected to ANYTHING (except power), so how the hell would a ground loop isolator solve the problem? Also, I moved my old Velodyne 12" down there, plugged it in, and it doesn't get any buzzing even without a GLI. So, defective sub, and it's going back.

The other problem I have is with the auto-on. Its threshold is just way too high. I often listen at low to moderate volume, not blasting it, but still enough that a little bass would be welcome. The NXG wouldn't turn on unless I turned the volume up a little more than I would like for casual evening listening. I don't have this problem with my Velodyne, it's auto-on is sensitive enough to activate even at low volumes.

So, no NXG for me; even though it sounds great, I'm reluctant to order another one if the auto-on behaves the same way; and I'm not entirely confident in their quality after the buzzing experience and the default "it's your fault" response.

I've actually had to return this sub twice due to quality issues. The first had the same exact problem as yours, a high frequency whine that occurred whenever the sub was turned on (this was returned through AV house who was super friendly to deal with and very quick to respond). The second time was just a couple weeks ago.

The second time occurred after I started getting some rattling (NXG suspected it was the dust cover) with low frequency bass and dealt with NXG's support. They were pretty quick with the initial response, but didn't respond to my follow up e-mail (basically asking if the video I posted was sufficient for determining the problem or if additional troubleshooting steps were needed considering it would cost me about $80 to ship the sub back) for about a week. Good news was that once I shipped it, they sent back a replacement the very day. The only weird thing was that the replacement appeared to be used since the both boxes had been opened the usual new product materials were not in there. I will test it out tonight to make sure everything works, but I was hoping for a new unit but it looks like i got a refurbished one.
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I have a Monoprice 10565 Home Theater system (Energy Take Classic Copy) http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...specifications powered by an HK AVR 154 set up in my Terrace and the sub died recently. Since I´m not dealing with a sealed room I know there is no way I´m going to get good bass for cheap but I am looking for a decent replacement for the sub included with this system. It just sounds terrible and tiny with no sub.

I do throw parties from time to time and crank up the volume (most subs have built in protection these days though right???)

What would you guys recommend that would sound at least as good and hopefully better for under around $200? I´d rather have sheer Volume than Accuracy.

EDIT: I´ve been doing more research and I´m more and more convinced that a Dayton 1200 would probably be suitable for my needs, maybe even use dual subs.

I have a Klipsch RW-12d in my living room, how would the Dayton 1200, Or BIC F12 compare? Is the BIC F12 a noticeable step up from the Dayton?

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I have a Monoprice 10565 Home Theater system (Energy Take Classic Copy) http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...specifications powered by an HK AVR 154 set up in my Terrace and the sub died recently. Since I´m not dealing with a sealed room I know there is no way I´m going to get good bass for cheap but I am looking for a decent replacement for the sub included with this system. It just sounds terrible and tiny with no sub.

I do throw parties from time to time and crank up the volume (most subs have built in protection these days though right???)

What would you guys recommend that would sound at least as good and hopefully better for under around $200? I´d rather have sheer Volume than Accuracy.

EDIT: I´ve been doing more research and I´m more and more convinced that a Dayton 1200 would probably be suitable for my needs, maybe even use dual subs.

I have a Klipsch RW-12d in my living room, how would the Dayton 1200, Or BIC F12 compare? Is the BIC F12 a noticeable step up from the Dayton?
For volume under $200, your best bet is the Dayton sub-1500 rather than the 1200.
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I have a Monoprice 10565 Home Theater system (Energy Take Classic Copy) http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...specifications powered by an HK AVR 154 set up in my Terrace and the sub died recently. Since I´m not dealing with a sealed room I know there is no way I´m going to get good bass for cheap but I am looking for a decent replacement for the sub included with this system. It just sounds terrible and tiny with no sub.

I do throw parties from time to time and crank up the volume (most subs have built in protection these days though right???)

What would you guys recommend that would sound at least as good and hopefully better for under around $200? I´d rather have sheer Volume than Accuracy.

EDIT: I´ve been doing more research and I´m more and more convinced that a Dayton 1200 would probably be suitable for my needs, maybe even use dual subs.

I have a Klipsch RW-12d in my living room, how would the Dayton 1200, Or BIC F12 compare? Is the BIC F12 a noticeable step up from the Dayton?
The 1200 and F12 arent even in the same class as the RW12-d.
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You will find nothing but love for the nxg from me. The sub performs well above its pay grade and the times i have contacted nxg they were pleasant. I have no rattling no buzzing from mine. I did have the original amp replaced (my own fault but they sent me one free of charge) the second one came with the auto switch brokwn. Sent me another overnight and i didnt have to send the other back. The auto function sucks but i see no need to even consider it neccassary. I just leave it on. This thing woke my wife up last night watching godzilla three rooms over and one floor above me. The nxg should be heavily considered by anyone looking for a budget sub. Only time i got a slow response was when they were at a show and their storage facility caught fire.
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For a small room such as yours, the Klipsch sub-12 would be a great option. It has really impressive output and in that sized room it would really deliver. I have the Infinity P363's and have used the sub-12 with those, in a larger room, and they play very nice together.
Wanted the Klipsch, WAF killed the dream. She bought me a JBL ES-250P (w/o checking) because it matched up closely with the P363's and PC351's look. The room will now also be used as a guest room thanks to the futon she bought. I have to say I am very surprised with it. I have the volume set at about 25% and it sounds great (for the price, $199 on Amazon). The crossover is set to 80 Hz.You can crank it up and it rumbles the back half of the house. It is loud but not as clear and tight as I prefer, but since it is in an extra room, I can live with it.

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Wanted the Klipsch, WAF killed the dream. She bought me a JBL ES-250P (w/o checking) because it matched up closely with the P363's and PC351's look. The room will now also be used as a guest room thanks to the futon she bought. I have to say I am very surprised with it. I have the volume set at about 25% and it sounds great (for the price, $199 on Amazon). The crossover is set to 80 Hz.You can crank it up and it rumbles the back half of the house. It is loud but not as clear and tight as I prefer, but since it is in an extra room, I can live with it.
As far as clear and tight the Klipsch probably wouldnt be any better.
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I got the NXG a few days ago to pair with some Omega 3T's and a Yamaha a-s500 integrated for 2 channel duty. Some other subs I've tried in my home are BIC F12, Dayton sub-100, and Polk PSW505. This sub is louder and more accurate than any of those. I love this thing so far. I guess the auto-on thing stinks, but I just leave it on "on" all the time and couldn't care less. I get no hum that some others have reported. I would but again in a heartbeat. It sounds awesome!!
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I got the NXG a few days ago to pair with some Omega 3T's and a Yamaha a-s500 integrated for 2 channel duty. Some other subs I've tried in my home are BIC F12, Dayton sub-100, and Polk PSW505. This sub is louder and more accurate than any of those. I love this thing so far. I guess the auto-on thing stinks, but I just leave it on "on" all the time and couldn't care less. I get no hum that some others have reported. I would but again in a heartbeat. It sounds awesome!!
Amazing sub at its price dont you think. I try to advertise these as much as possible i think they are the best below 300 dollars your gonna find but thats my opinion. and im a lil biased.
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$170 for the PSW505 or $270 for the NXG NX-BAS-500? I mainly watch TV, movies, and play video games at moderate volume (-30dB to -20dB or so on my receiver). The music I do listen to on my HT system is mostly non critical listening while cleaning or doing homework.

Is the NXG worth the extra $100? I've heard a Bic F12 and it was a bit boomy IMO, and lacked extension.

EDIT: It's about a 1000ft^3 room
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$170 for the PSW505 or $270 for the NXG NX-BAS-500? I mainly watch TV, movies, and play video games at moderate volume (-30dB to -20dB or so on my receiver). The music I do listen to on my HT system is mostly non critical listening while cleaning or doing homework.

Is the NXG worth the extra $100? I've heard a Bic F12 and it was a bit boomy IMO, and lacked extension.

EDIT: It's about a 1000ft^3 room
I haven't heard the PSW505 myself, but the NXG I have. Most of the comments I've seen regarding the Polk sub are not all that encouraging, while the opposite can be said for the NXG, so given that the extra $100 might be worth it.

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I haven't heard the PSW505 myself, but the NXG I have. Most of the comments I've seen regarding the Polk sub are not all that encouraging, while the opposite can be said for the NXG, so given that the extra $100 might be worth it.
Agreed.
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I haven't heard the PSW505 myself, but the NXG I have. Most of the comments I've seen regarding the Polk sub are not all that encouraging, while the opposite can be said for the NXG, so given that the extra $100 might be worth it.
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Agreed.
That's all I needed to hear. I'll get the NXG.

Unfortunately I have to put the purchase on hold. There's going to be a big change in finances soon, but I'm not sure whether it will be for the better or the worse yet.

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Mirage Omni S10

Just added a Mirage Omni 10 to my system.

In the spirit of this thread's intention, I'm not discussing anything here but price.

$300 including a 5 metre Energy s/w cable that usually retails for $60

Adding tax (5%) takes the total just over the target figure, but considering the suggested retail price 0f $659, I thought it was a bargain.

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Just added a Mirage Omni 10 to my system.

In the spirit of this thread's intention, I'm not discussing anything here but price.

$300 including a 5 metre Energy s/w cable that usually retails for $60

Adding tax (5%) takes the total just over the target figure, but considering the suggested retail price 0f $659, I thought it was a bargain.
Congrats on your new toy! Be sure to come back and post your thoughts once you have it all dialed in. Regarding the thread's intention...

I appreciate you trying to stay the course, but you're welcome to add whatever you'd like about budget subs. I originally intended for the two threads to each have a specific purpose, but between when I created them and now things kinda meandered so I no longer enforce that. My intention was good, but the execution was flawed, so feel free to post you're comments if you so choose.
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Just added a Mirage Omni 10 to my system.

In the spirit of this thread's intention, I'm not discussing anything here but price.

$300 including a 5 metre Energy s/w cable that usually retails for $60

Adding tax (5%) takes the total just over the target figure, but considering the suggested retail price 0f $659, I thought it was a bargain.
i have Mirage omni sub 12, pair with my Rythmik LV12R, and both of them sound really good! congrats on youre new sub and enjoy.
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Hey, looking for some advice on a sub as a better-but-not-much-pricier alternative to the one that would come with the Pioneer SP-PK52FS and/or SP-PK22BS speaker setup....

Basically trying to do an inexpensive 5.1 setup for mostly gaming/AV stuff, music sounding good would be nice of course (mostly rock/pop) but it'd 3rd on priority.

Room it's going is in roughly 14x16, 8 foot ceiling and the TV is in the middle of one of the 16' walls. It's also my main PC monitor so I'm only sitting 3 feet away from it typically.

Currently thinking a Denon AVR-E400 for the receiver as at $299 for a leftover new one I think it's the best bang/buck I can get that does video upscaling and has a component input

Currently thinking the Pioneer setup but many seem to suggest getting it without the sub and getting a different one... I'm open to that so long as it's not jacking the price up a bunch.

Doubly so if the better sub makes going with the PK22 setup rather than the PK52 setup work well (as that saves me $100 by using the same satellites as fronts instead of the bigger tower speakers)

One suggestion so far was the Dayton Sub-1200 at $109 and offering great quality for the price... thoughts?

Would I get much for my use spending more given it seems you'd have to go 2-300 to get a lot better of a sub?

Would going with the better sub make using the smaller front speakers work out well?

Any input greatly appreciated.

(if context on what I'm used to helps, our downstairs has a 7.1 setup with an Onkyo HT-160 driving a set of Onkyo SKS-HT870 speakers including its 230w 10" sub)
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One suggestion so far was the Dayton Sub-1200 at $109 and offering great quality for the price... thoughts?

Would I get much for my use spending more given it seems you'd have to go 2-300 to get a lot better of a sub?
Would a $200-$300 sub be better then the SUB-1200? Absolutely. But would they be 2x or 3x as good? I would say no, probably not. Going from the SUB-1200 to something like the NXG NX-BAS-500 would be an (evolutionary) upgrade, but in order to get a significant (revolutionary) upgrade you'd really need to be in the $500 range. That's where you start to get into some very impressive subs.

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My suggestion would be the same as Jman, although you can get the 1200 for $99 shipped right now. If you can get 2 that would make it a decent setup. I have mine in a 2.1 setup and I'm very impressed with it.

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Hey, I just purchased the Dayton Sub-1200 at PE considering the crazy deal going on right now. I will be hooking it up to a Vizio S3820w sound bar, and was wondering what most of you guys are running the gain setting at? I know on my PSA subs most people run the gains somewhere between one to three o'clock.


Also, I am thinking of setting the crossover at either 110hz or 120hz with this sound bar. Any input is appreciated, thanks!

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