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Thanks for the links.

(At 67.25 lbs, the CSX12 MKII is a heavy load.)
Just make sure you have something that will EQ the CSX12. The Cadence subs have an uber peaky response in the midbass region. Audyssey MultEQ or some kind of sub EQ would help smooth that out.
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Just make sure you have something that will EQ the CSX12. The Cadence subs have an uber peaky response in the midbass region. Audyssey MultEQ or some kind of sub EQ would help smooth that out.

I use custom peak filters.

However, the CSX12 is a little too bulky for my taste.

(The volume of the cabinet of the BIC RtR-12S is less than half that of the CSX12.)

A/VR: 1 x Sony STR-DE598
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Sub: 1 x BIC RtR RtR-12S
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Monitor: 1 x LG 24EA53V-PA.AUSNJVN (Panel: LG Display AH-IPS)
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Hey folks.

After previous forum feedback and insight from the audience, I decided I was going to get a Acoustech PL-200. But I just saw a used Martin Logan 700W (3 months old) that I think I could get for somewhere between $300 and $400 - so maybe $75-100 more than the PL-200. No brainer or not?

My original post with room/usage is below, though I will now either get the PL-200 or something else used. One thing I do like about the ML is that it is smaller - and that helps with WAF.

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Hey everybody. Audio amateur here & would love some advice/opinions. I need a sub and would really appreciate some recommendations.

I have a modest inwall system. Paradigm CD-160 v3 in walls for front left, front right and both rear and a Paradigm Cinema 400 for the center channel.

1. budget.- $200 ideal, up to $300/$350 possible. I could go higher, but really don't know if I would appreciate the difference.

2. Size requirements/limits. - It was the WAF that led me to the inwalls, so the smaller the better. I have an older sub that is a black cube at 13"x13"x13" and that was fine. I'd say going up to 15" or 16" cubed is no big deal, but would rather not get too much bigger.

3. Room dimensions. Maybe 2200 cubic feet. Roughly 20'x14x8. TV faces couch on the shorter dimension with maybe 12 ft between screen and viewer. It's a living room w TV mounted above fireplace.

4. Primary uses - TV & kids movies 50%, Music 40% (background, not cricical listening / Movies to really push/enjoy system 10%. Wish I could crank home theater more, but with young kids asleep upstairs, it almost never happens.

5. Listening habits.- Normal Viewing & listening. Loud enough to get a rumble on some movies, but other than that - mostly moderate volume levels. If I had to slant the sub one way on music vs home theater, slant it towards music. I don't want it sounding lousy when enjoying music.

6. Appearance requirements. None

7. Timeframe. None

From reading forums, people seem to like/recc:
1. Dayton sub-1000
2. Dayton sub-2000
3. Bic America F-12
4. Klipsch Sub 12-HG
5. Polk PSW505
6. HTD Level Two Sub

What does everybody think? I think most of those would be enough deep rumble for me for home theater, but I don't want something horrible for music. Again, I appreciate clean sound - but probably don't have the most critical audiophile ears here.

What does everyone think?
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I tried a Martin Logan 500 fr BB, was disappointed.

I hear lots of good things about the NXG BAS-500. Would've got that if I didn't splurge on a Hsu VTF model.

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I'm surprised that I have not seen anyone mention the Cadence CSX-12 MKII. It was mentioned at Sound and Vision and said to be the best sub Brent Butterworth has ever tested for under $400 (it's $300). I have this sub and it is amazing. Here are a few quotes from Sound and Vision review.

Gear reviewers often make sloppy use of words like “outstanding” to describe products that may sound great but don’t actually stand out from other good products in their category. When I describe the CSX-12’s performance as outstanding, I mean it really does stand out. In fact, in the upper bass range it’s the equal of the 37-percent-larger, more than twice-as-expensive Hsu VTF-15H.

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The CSX-12 Mark II is the first $400 sub I’ve heard that gave me the “thrill ride” effect I like to experience when I watch action movies. It gives home theater fanatics that gut punch they crave, and it gives audiophiles the definition and precision they want.

I own this sub. It is powering my Budget Home Theater. If you have not heard it - check it out! You will not be disappointed!
I have only found reviews for the 15" model stating it is a decent deal for the price of the review $500 (Couple years back). It is currently selling for $364 and I know this is a less than $300 sub thread, but would it be wise to add the extra $64 for it?
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I have only found reviews for the 15" model stating it is a decent deal for the price of the review $500 (Couple years back). It is currently selling for $364 and I know this is a less than $300 sub thread, but would it be wise to add the extra $64 for it?
Wow, it's only $64 difference. That is pretty amazing! I honestly have never heard the 15" sub, so I cannot make a personal recommendation. Although, when I bought my 12" sub, it was only a $100 difference and gave it some though. I do remember, not going that route due to what others had stated. Everyone, seemed to like it, but felt that the 12" was tighter and clearer sounding. In all honesty, they would rather have the 12" due to sound quality. And although, I cannot recommend the 15", I can completely recommend the 12. It is amazing! I hope this helps!
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Posting some graphs of the nxg this is two of them in a 12'x20' with 7'ceilings. Thanks to Andrew Pratt over at HTS this is for those that doubt the nxg

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Most, if not all, if the listed subwoofers aren't available in Europe.

Does anyone have suggestions for a budget around 200€?
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1. Your budget. 200€ (European availability necessary)

2. Size requirements/limits. None

3. Room dimensions. 4m*5,5m*3,5m (which should work out to around 2700 cubic feet)

4. Primary uses. music (rock, jazz, classical), occasional movie.

5. Listening habits. Low to moderate listening volumes; listening position at the opposite angle of a 2m triangle made with my monitors

6. Appearance requirements. none

7. Timeframe. none


I've recently tried and returned a Jamo J10 because of how horribly boomy and muddy it sounded. I'd like something that allows me to extend the frequency range of my LSR305 monitors without ruining the experience.

I've currently eyed these but would like to find out more information:

- Canton AS 85.2 SC
- Canton SUB 600 (used)
- Soundsation Clarity 10A
- Wharfedale Diamond SW150
- Samson Resolv 120A
- Boston Acoustics ASW 250
- INDIANA LINE BASSO 922 (used)
- JBL ES 250 P (used)

Having high pass filtered outputs is preferred so that I don't immediately have to get an active crossover.

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Most, if not all, if the listed subwoofers aren't available in Europe.

Does anyone have suggestions for a budget around 200€?
I'll quote my message from the other thread:
Your room is not ft^3 ~250.

m^3 ~77 = ft^3 ~2720

Can't help with EU availability, but here are some comparisons:

http://home-subwoofers-review.toptenreviews.com/

A/VR: 1 x Sony STR-DE598
L/R + C: 2 x BIC Venturi DV62si + 1 x BIC Venturi V52
Sub: 1 x BIC RtR RtR-12S
Surrounds: 2 x Klipsch Synergy B-20
Monitor: 1 x LG 24EA53V-PA.AUSNJVN (Panel: LG Display AH-IPS)
Display: 1 x Samsung UN-46EH6000FXZC CS01 (Panel: Chi Mei InnoLux S-MVA 46P1AF0D)

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Hello!

Can anyone tell me how does this Monoprice "Premium Home Theater Subwoofer" compare to other $150 subwoofers?

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2

It has an 8" Injected Cone down firing subwoofer, and it is 200 watts @ THD ≤0.5%.

It costs $125 but I would have to pay $25 shipping too.

Thanks!
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Hello!

Can anyone tell me how does this Monoprice "Premium Home Theater Subwoofer" compare to other $150 subwoofers?

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2

It has an 8" Injected Cone down firing subwoofer, and it is 200 watts @ THD ≤0.5%.

It costs $125 but I would have to pay $25 shipping too.

Thanks!
Don't know about the Monoprice, but for an extra USD ~10, you could get a BIC RtR RtR-12S, which features a driver 50% greater in diameter:

http://www.amazon.com/America-RTR-12...dp/B003H3NBS0/

http://bicamerica.com/showpage.php?b...e=3&spkrID=118

A/VR: 1 x Sony STR-DE598
L/R + C: 2 x BIC Venturi DV62si + 1 x BIC Venturi V52
Sub: 1 x BIC RtR RtR-12S
Surrounds: 2 x Klipsch Synergy B-20
Monitor: 1 x LG 24EA53V-PA.AUSNJVN (Panel: LG Display AH-IPS)
Display: 1 x Samsung UN-46EH6000FXZC CS01 (Panel: Chi Mei InnoLux S-MVA 46P1AF0D)

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