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The small size requirement is because it is going under a computer desk.
I run a Dayton SUB-1000 under my computer desk, I've had it for almost 2yrs now. It's been a great little sub, perfect for computer duties. If called upon it can provide floor shaking output, I was impressed for the low price. Although with that being said, it doesn't play much under 30hz, but that's typical for a sub costing around $100.

My BIC F12's provide more output and easily reach down to 25hz, but they are bigger and twice the price.
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I am in the process of moving and looking at options for a replacement sub. I currently have a tsc t-250 sub and it has worked great. I am looking to see if there are any +-$300 options that would be a noticable upgrade.

I have seen many options like the Jamo and BIC 12" subs and have no idea if it would even be an upgrade. Any advice?
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I may have posted my orig post in the wrong spot (saw this link but thought it was for a list of cheap subs - not advice )


I am putting together a budget home theater for a 12x12 room in my basement. I was planning on purchasing a Polk Audio PSW108 sub, per Crutchfield's recommendation. However, I came across a Klipsch SW-450 sub for a similar price at Amazon. On paper they appear to be a lot more bang for your buck, but I gather it is an older model, so are cheaper. I tried to post a link showing a feature comparison, but don't have enough posts to link. Here is general comparison of features:

PSW108/SW-450
Watts: 50/200
Low-Pass Crossover Freq: 80-160 Hz/ 40-150
Frequency Response 40-160 Hz/ 28-120 Hz

I will be using a Denon AVR-S510BT receiver and Polk TL150 satellite speakers. This will be 100% used for movies. I don't need wall shaking bass, but would like a decent home theater sound. Would the Sw-450 be overkill? Would the PSW108 pair better with the Polk Satellite speakers? Does it really matter? I appreciate any recommendations!
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I am putting together a budget home theater for a 12x12 room in my basement. I was planning on purchasing a Polk Audio PSW108 sub, per Crutchfield's recommendation. However, I came across a Klipsch SW-450 sub for a similar price at Amazon. On paper they appear to be a lot more bang for your buck, but I gather it is an older model, so are cheaper. I tried to post a link showing a feature comparison, but don't have enough posts to link. Here is general comparison of features:

PSW108/SW-450
Watts: 50/200
Low-Pass Crossover Freq: 80-160 Hz/ 40-150
Frequency Response 40-160 Hz/ 28-120 Hz

I will be using a Denon AVR-S510BT receiver and Polk TL150 satellite speakers. This will be 100% used for movies. I don't need wall shaking bass, but would like a decent home theater sound. Would the Sw-450 be overkill? Would the PSW108 pair better with the Polk Satellite speakers? Does it really matter? I appreciate any recommendations!
If the manufacturers specifications are accurate - which isn't a given - than the only choice between the Polk and Klipsch sub may very well be the Polk. That's due to the limitations of your speakers though, and not some inherent benefit to that particular subwoofer.

The TL150's speakers use what Polk optimistically calls a woofer, but at 2.5" it's barely a midrange really. If you keep the volume low, on a good day it might have acceptable output to 120Hz. That means your subwoofer will need to handle everything below that, a big ask for something in the budget category. The Klipsch is maxed out by 120Hz, so the lowest the speakers can go is the highest the subwoofer can. That's not a recipe for success.

The Polk PSW108 supposedly can reach 160Hz, but sadly can only manage an anemic 40Hz on the lower end. That leaves a lot to be desired if you only want to play music, but if HT is in your plans it's simply not acceptable. You might be better off considering something like the SVS SB12-NSD. It can reach high enough to work with tiny speakers, yet play low enough to enjoy movies.
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I may have posted my orig post in the wrong spot (saw this link but thought it was for a list of cheap subs - not advice )


I am putting together a budget home theater for a 12x12 room in my basement. I was planning on purchasing a Polk Audio PSW108 sub, per Crutchfield's recommendation. However, I came across a Klipsch SW-450 sub for a similar price at Amazon. On paper they appear to be a lot more bang for your buck, but I gather it is an older model, so are cheaper. I tried to post a link showing a feature comparison, but don't have enough posts to link. Here is general comparison of features:

PSW108/SW-450
Watts: 50/200
Low-Pass Crossover Freq: 80-160 Hz/ 40-150
Frequency Response 40-160 Hz/ 28-120 Hz

I will be using a Denon AVR-S510BT receiver and Polk TL150 satellite speakers. This will be 100% used for movies. I don't need wall shaking bass, but would like a decent home theater sound. Would the Sw-450 be overkill? Would the PSW108 pair better with the Polk Satellite speakers? Does it really matter? I appreciate any recommendations!
I use a couple of the Polk PSW10 subs up front and they are good for movies/TV/sports, but I did add in a spare BIC F12 to the back of the room to get it out of the way.

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I use a couple of the Polk PSW10 subs up front and they are good for movies/TV/sports, but I did add in a spare BIC F12 to the back of the room to get it out of the way.
How do you think 2 PSW10's by themselves would be? I could get 2 of those for my price range.
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How do you think 2 PSW10's by themselves would be? I could get 2 of those for my price range.
I replaced the BIC F12 with the PSW10 and only added the second one months later to raise my towers. They had all the bass I need for movies and I only added the BIC F12 back in to put it to use after sticking it in the garage for months to get rid of a chemical smell it had from day one.
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Thank you for the info on the Freq range. That makes sense and I will look for a larger range.
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Aperion Audio is having a sale and some of the subs are now below the $300 mark.
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Klipsch Sub-12HG Synergy Series 12" 300W Subwoofer $199

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I just spent all week reading the 80+ pages of this thread for insight into buying a budget subwoofer. I want to thank Jim and all the posters with their stories.

I happen to find a CL deal for a sub no longer manufactured and MSRP out of the $300 limit(Boston XB8), that I'm taking a gamble on. Worse case, I use it upstairs in the game room if it cannot "fill" my basement HT. Then I'll be back to keep up on any <$300 sales and recommendations.

Just wanted to let you'all know that ppl are reading.
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I just spent all week reading the 80+ pages of this thread for insight into buying a budget subwoofer. I want to thank Jim and all the posters with their stories.

Just wanted to let you'all know that ppl are reading.
Thank you for the kind words. You are very tenacious - this is a long thread.


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I happen to find a CL deal for a sub no longer manufactured and MSRP out of the $300 limit(Boston XB8), that I'm taking a gamble on. Worse case, I use it upstairs in the game room if it cannot "fill" my basement HT. Then I'll be back to keep up on any <$300 sales and recommendations.
Fingers crossed it works for you!
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Fingers crossed it works for you!
Yep, listened to late 80's-early 90's bass CD's til 6am Then watched Tron Legacy again, but with 100% more BOOM. Being in a concrete basement definitely loose some resonance (I think that is the term).

When I first hooked it up, it seems I had a bad RCA(?) cord...it works for composite video on a vid capture setup I had but apparently not for this subwoofer. I needed something long since my avr is on a high self. So now that I'm waiting for Monoprice to ship me something, I just coupled two 6' randoms together.

Of course 3 days after I picked up the CL find, a local friend offered to sell me his older Velodyne ULD-15, which I had borrowed years ago. Might have to double up...can't have too much bass.

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Of course 3 days after I picked up the CL find, a local friend offered to sell me his older Velodyne ULD-15, which I had borrowed years ago. Might have to double up...can't have too much bass.
Doubling up is good. Trying to do it with completely different subwoofers, not so much. That will be a tough challenge to integrate both of them so their summed output is balanced. It will take differences in proximity and some trial-and-error with adjustments. You probably won't be able to do it by ear, so unless you have measurement equipment you might want to rethink that.

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I ordered the Jamo 110 (I almost ordered the 12 inch but I just don't need it in my small apartment) for $190. From what I can see, it's the Klipsch R110SW. But goes one or two hz lower.

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I everyone!

I was looking for a budget sub and found this thread.

I'm looking for a sub for a pair of Q acoustics 3020 paired with a Denon AVR-X 1300. I would like SVS but I'm trying to not spend 600€ on a sub.

I've heard about HSU and BIC, they seem to offer good deals but are difficult to find here. I like a deep and accurate bass, not looking for a boomy one. It is for music and movies. Can I get something with this budget or I should save for the SVS?
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I everyone!

I was looking for a budget sub and found this thread.

I'm looking for a sub for a pair of Q acoustics 3020 paired with a Denon AVR-X 1300. I would like SVS but I'm trying to not spend 600€ on a sub.

I've heard about HSU and BIC, they seem to offer good deals but are difficult to find here. I like a deep and accurate bass, not looking for a boomy one. It is for music and movies. Can I get something with this budget or I should save for the SVS?
I didn't mentioned it but I'm trying to keep under the 300€. Thank you.
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I've heard about HSU and BIC, they seem to offer good deals but are difficult to find here.
Where is "here"? Without knowing where you're located it will be difficult to make suggestions as most of the people reading this are in the US and Canada.

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Where is "here"? Without knowing where you're located it will be difficult to make suggestions as most of the people reading this are in the US and Canada.
You're right I'm in southern Europe. It is easy to get it from any EU store with an online store but from other continent is far more complicated.
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You're right I'm in southern Europe. It is easy to get it from any EU store with an online store but from other continent is far more complicated.
If you can afford the SVS that would be a good option. They make some nice subwoofers, and I know they have distributors all over the world. Since you can't get HSU or BIC, what other company's are available to you? Are you able to get anything from XTZ?

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I everyone!

I was looking for a budget sub and found this thread.

I'm looking for a sub for a pair of Q acoustics 3020 paired with a Denon AVR-X 1300. I would like SVS but I'm trying to not spend 600€ on a sub.

I've heard about HSU and BIC, they seem to offer good deals but are difficult to find here. I like a deep and accurate bass, not looking for a boomy one. It is for music and movies. Can I get something with this budget or I should save for the SVS?

Jamo J-12?

https://translate.google.ca/translat...-text=&act=url

http://www.jamo.com/speakers/subwoofer/?sku=J12SUB

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If you can afford the SVS that would be a good option. They make some nice subwoofers, and I know they have distributors all over the world. Since you can't get HSU or BIC, what other company's are available to you? Are you able to get anything from XTZ?
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Jamo J-12?
It seems that there's a XTZ distributor around here. It has a crap site but they're here and in other countries around. Jafo is even better, they are sold by Amazon.

Those anyone have any experience with them? Klipsch has also a few subs within this budget. I've heard both good and bad reviews about their models (like the R-110SW).

Any feedback will be good.

About brands, I have available most of brands. From SVS, Martin Logan, ELAC, Klipsch, Dayton, Boston Acoustics...

Thank you again.
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It seems that there's a XTZ distributor around here. It has a crap site but they're here and in other countries around. Jafo is even better, they are sold by Amazon.

Those anyone have any experience with them?
I have a lot of experience with XTZ, not only reviewing their products but I own them as well (AAMOF, I'm listening to some of their speakers at this very moment). They make excellent stuff. If the local distributor has a crappy site you can check out their main site at this link.


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About brands, I have available most of brands. From SVS, Martin Logan, ELAC, Klipsch, Dayton, Boston Acoustics...
As mentioned, SVS deserves consideration. About the only Martin Logan you're likely to get for 300 is the Dynamo 300, but from what I understand it's discontinued so you would have to act fast. Dayton has a good inexpensive unit with the SUB-1200.

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Klipsch Sub-12HG Synergy Series 12" 300W Subwoofer $199

http://www.buydig.com/shop/product/K...content=227502
The deal seems to be over on their website but their ebay page still sells them for $219. I just picked up one to match what I have.
I thought about the Dayton 15inch at the same price range but I like the Klipsch being more powerful. 300w RMS vs 150w RMS.

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It seems that there's a XTZ distributor around here. It has a crap site but they're here and in other countries around. Jafo is even better, they are sold by Amazon.

Those anyone have any experience with them? Klipsch has also a few subs within this budget. I've heard both good and bad reviews about their models (like the R-110SW).

Any feedback will be good.

About brands, I have available most of brands. From SVS, Martin Logan, ELAC, Klipsch, Dayton, Boston Acoustics...

Thank you again.

Jamo assets are owned by Klipsch Group, and the new Jamo products are engineered by Klipsch. The Jamo J-12 is analogous to the Klipsch R-12SW.

Also: the Dayton SUB-1200 is a proven budget sub.

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Any reason why the Klipsch Sub-12HG isn't on the OP?
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Any reason why the Klipsch Sub-12HG isn't on the OP?
it used to be iirc, but its so difficult to find anymore

it was always on sale for @ 199, sometimes as low as 169

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Any reason why the Klipsch Sub-12HG isn't on the OP?
The price cut-off point is based upon the selling price of the unit, be it MSRP or what you can get it for most of the time. Sale prices are excluded because they vary and it was impossible for me to track them.

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