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I'm compiling a list of subwoofer shootouts or subwoofer roundups to use as a quick reference thread for other threads.

Here is an initial list, and below each link is a list of the subs included in each meet. The listing of subs is not necessarily in order of ranking for each meet. Some meets chose subjective and objective winners, some meets didn't. If you see a sub you are interested in, I'd encourage following that meet's link and reading up on that meet and sub in greater detail. If you know of other subwoofer sorties please link them and I'll add them to this first post.

Ideally I'm looking for both "professional" shootouts, and amateur shootouts with more than one person's opinion echoed in the reviews in order to be included in this reference thread.


Way Down Deep tests done by Keith Yates - 2004
Part 1 - http://www.hometheater.com/content/way-down-deep-i
Part 2 - http://www.hometheater.com/content/way-down-deep-ii
Part 3 - http://www.hometheater.com/content/way-down-deep-iii
Testing Methodology
http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...st-methodology

  • Revel Performa B15
  • Wilson Audio Watch Dog
  • Kleiss S15A
  • Genelec HTS6
  • Adire SaDhara
  • Bag End S21E
  • ServoDrive Contrabass
  • Hydrosonic HS-12S
  • CoDrive CB1
  • Snell ICS Sub24
  • Triad Inroom Platinum
  • Velodyne DD18


craigsub blind test between SVS PB12 Ultra and Axiom EP-500 - 2005
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...lind-test.html
  • SVS PB12 Ultra
  • Axiom EP-500


Sound and Vision ShootOut: Five Mid-Price Subwoofers - 2007

http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...ice-subwoofers
  • Hsu VTF-3 MK 3 Turbo
  • Klipsch RW-12d
  • Outlaw Audio LFM-1EX
  • SVS SB12-Plus
  • Velodyne DLS-5000R


craigsub's ranking - 2007
Official Craigsub rankings thread

  • Elemental Designs A7-900
  • Epik Conquest
  • SVS PB13-Ultra
  • Epik Castle
  • AV123 MFW-15 Duals
  • Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver
  • JL Audio Fathom 113
  • AV123 MFW-15
  • Def Tech Trinity
  • Velodyne DD-18
  • ACI Maestro
  • eD A5-350
  • JL Audio Fathom 112
  • Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo
  • Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo
  • Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo
  • VMPS VSS
  • Epik Valor
  • Hsu VTF-3 Mark III w/o Turbo
  • SVS PB12-Ultra
  • Axiom EP-500
  • Hsu VTF-2 Mark III + Turbo
  • SVS PB12-Plus/2
  • SVS PB12-NSD
  • Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo
  • Rocket UFW-12
  • Elemental Designs A2-300
  • SVS PB10-NSD
  • Dana Audio 600
  • Rocket X-Sub
  • BIC H-100
  • Rocket Tyke


Sunday Mini-Shootout - 2007
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=913510

  • Paradigm Servo-15
  • SVS PBUltra-13
  • Velodyne DD-18
  • JL Audio F113


Saturday Mini-Shootout Blind Test - 2007
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=933939

  • Axiom EP600
  • Velo DD-18
  • JL Fathom F113
  • SVS PB13 Ultra

SE Wisconsin Sub Shootout - 2009
SE WI Sub shootout....

  • Mal-Xs 6^3 Sealed
  • TC2000 3.5^3 Sealed
  • TC3000
  • JL Audio F112
  • SVS Ultra -13
  • Rythmik 15
  • XXX-18"
  • LMS 18
  • SDX 15
  • 24" cube with an A15H and pair of 18" PR's
  • Dual 18" vented subs with TD18H+ woofers
  • ED 190v.2 sealed
  • Rythmik Prototype 15" Ported servo sub


The Great Southern Sub Shootout - 2009
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1127851

  • ED 190v2 18"
  • Shiva X 12
  • LMS 18 sealed
  • XXX 18 sealed
  • Audiopulse Epic 12" X 2
  • Danley Soundlabs TH50
  • Danley Soundlabs TH-SPUDS
  • CS30 baby sub
  • Outlaw LFM-1
  • WorxAudio Technologies TL.118SS
  • Bic H100


2011 Kansas City Subwoofer Meet - 2011
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1335139

  • JTR Captivator
  • Seaton Submersive HP
  • HSU VTF-15H
  • Yamaha CW218V
  • Epik Empire
  • SVS PB-12+
  • Jamo D7
  • Jenson MS500


HEMI Spring Subwoofer Shootout - 2011
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1322007

  • SVS-PC12 NSD
  • M&K MX-350 THX (dual 12" drivers)
  • Quatro (dual MFW-15 drivers w/ a Mark Seaton modded 1000w Dayton amp)
  • UFW- Big Block(MFW-15 driver upgrade for the UFW-12)
  • Rythmik FV-12 w/ custom veneer by Jim Salk
  • Epik Empire
  • IB (4x 15"s driven by a 2400w Behringer)
  • Emotiva Ultra 12


Two Brother's $1,000 Subwoofer Shootout - 2011
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1313176

  • Epik Empire
  • HSU VTF-15H
  • Chase home Theater CS18.1
  • Rythmik FV15
  • Elemental Designs A7s-450


Audioholics Subwoofer Shootout - 2011
http://www.audioholics.com/loudspeak...oofer-shootout

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1299779
  • HSU VTF-15H
  • Rythmik FV15HP
  • Funkywaves FW12.X
  • SVS PB12-Plus


SUBFEST 2011-HuskerOmaha and Desertdome's Subwoofer Showdown
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1368326

  • Chase Home Theater 18.2
  • Chase Home Theater Dual VS 18.1
  • Rythmik DIY
  • Elemental Designs a7s-450
  • JTR Captivator Pro pair
  • Motor City Custom Audio MFW-Turbo (2)
  • BIC F12
  • Danley DTS-10/JTR Growler
  • LilMike DIY Cinema F-20
  • MFW-15 DIY Quad Dual Oposed
  • Seaton SubmersiveHP


Archaea's Kansas City Blind Subwoofer Shootout 2012
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1387178

  • Klipsch RW-12D
  • HSU VTF-15H
  • JTR Captivator Pro
  • Seaton Submersive HP
  • Chase Home Theater 18.T
  • JTR Cap sealed
  • MFW-15 DIY Dual Opposed
  • JTR Orbit Shifter


shadyJ's Rythmik sub comparison thread - 2012
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1394772

  • Rythmik FV12
  • HSU VTF3 mk3
  • Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX
  • Elemental Designs A3-300


Socal gtgSoCal G2G - 2012
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1388206/socal-gtg/180_20
  • Submersive HP
  • Revel B15a
  • Rythmik E15
  • DIY JL 10w7 in a 1.25 ft^3 box
  • LMS 5400 in a 3.5 ft^3 sealed box


Captivators vs. Submersive HP in Carp's room - 2012
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1397851/ca...my-room/120_20

  • Captivator 2011 ported model x 2
  • Submersive HP x 2


Gorilla83's North East PA/NY/NJ/DE/MD/VA GTG
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1420544/ne...-take-two/0_20

  • HSU ULS15
  • Rythmik E15
  • SVS 20-39 PCI
  • Rythmik FV15HP
  • DIY Dayton 15" Sealed Subwoofers x 2
  • LMS-5400 18" Sealed Subwoofers x 2
  • JTR Captivator Ported Subwoofers x2
  • Seaton Submersive HP x2, Seaton Submersive HP F2
  • Definitive Tech Supercube 14"


Upper Midwest GTG Summer 2013
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1475190/upper-midwest-gtg-summer-2013
  • Lilmike Cinema F20 Pair
  • Gjallarhorn Pair
  • Othorn Pair
  • JTR Orbit Shifter


Upper Midwest GTG Summer 2014

Upper Midwest summer 2014 GTG?
  • Gjallarhorn
  • Orthorn


Ricci's Data Bass of Subwoofer tests
http://www.data-bass.com/systems

  • Danley Sound Labs, DTS-10
  • DIY, XXX Sealed
  • Funky Waves, FW15.2
  • DIY, LMS 5400 18 Sealed
  • DIY, 21SW152 Dual Sealed
  • DIY, 21SW152 25Hz Ported
  • Velodyne, CT-150
  • WAY MORE SYSTEMS -- Continually testing!


AVtalk test database for dozens of subwoofers
http://www.avtalk.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12281
Testing Methodology
http://www.avtalk.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10999



Ilkka's tests for dozens of subwoofers
http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...rer-model.html





Tom Nousaine's subwoofer comparison list (hundreds of subs compared)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...hl=en_US#gid=0




Note:
If you'd like to meet other AVSforum subwoofer owners, and potentially demo their equipment please visit the I'll demo my subwoofer for other enthusiasts thread to find other subwoofer owners in your geographic area! You may even find there are enough enthusiasts in your area to organize a subwoofer meet.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1354149



UPCOMING MEETS!?!?



Send me a PM or update this thread to get your upcoming meet scheduled!
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Nice information.

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This is a great reference for folks. Sticky?
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I wish there were more people in the Philly/jersey/Delaware area that would be willing to do a shoot out. I would love to put my creations up against commercial subs to see how they would stack up.

Edit: different kind of list...I thought it was a list of upcoming meetings for subwoofer shootouts...sorry
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This is a great reference for folks. Sticky?

+1

This should be a sticky and thanks for compiling this Archaea!
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This should be a sticky and thanks for compiling this Archaea!

2nd and 3rd for the sticky.
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added the 2007 mini shootouts.

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I wish there were more people in the Philly/jersey/Delaware area that would be willing to do a shoot out. I would love to put my creations up against commercial subs to see how they would stack up.

Edit: different kind of list...I thought it was a list of upcoming meetings for subwoofer shootouts...sorry

Count me in heh.
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I wish there were more people in the Philly/jersey/Delaware area that would be willing to do a shoot out. I would love to put my creations up against commercial subs to see how they would stack up.

Edit: different kind of list...I thought it was a list of upcoming meetings for subwoofer shootouts...sorry

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Count me in heh.

Not to go too far off topic, but count me and my submersive hp in also. I don't have a good place to do a get together but would be willing to drive a couple hours and help with setup and organization.

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http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/art...-15h-subwoofer
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Not to go too far off topic, but count me and my submersive hp in also. I don't have a good place to do a get together but would be willing to drive a couple hours and help with setup and organization.

-Mike

Seems like my accidental post has gathered some interest. I will try and organize something and will contact you guys by PM when I start a new thread. I don't want to clog up this thread anymore so if anyone else is interested send me a PM. Thanks
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It would be nice if someone also gathered a list of Ricci's driver and some recent subwoofer measurements. Or just include the link to http://www.data-bass.com/systems after he has posted them in there.

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I know it's kind of old, but here is the Way Down Deep tests done by Keith Yates.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...333462&page=54
That has
Revel Performa B15
Wilson Audio Watch Dog
Kleiss S15A
Genelec HTS6
Adire SaDhara
Bag End S21E
ServoDrive Contrabass
Hydrosonic HS-12S
CoDrive CB1
Snell ICS Sub24
Triad Inroom Platinum
Velodyne DD18
Methodology was here
http://www.hometheater.com/content/w...st-methodology
I know a lot of that stuff is older now but it may be just good as a comparison to see how far we have gone.
Also, I think the tests on avtalk are good
http://www.avtalk.co.uk/showthread.php?t=12281
Again, maybe some older ones in there but still good as a base line for how far we have come
here is their methodology
http://www.avtalk.co.uk/showthread.php?t=10999

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Here is another one:

SE Wisconsin Sub Shootout - 2009
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Here is another one:

SE Wisconsin Sub Shootout - 2009

I guess I should have scrolled down. I just spent 10 minutes trying to find this thread so I could link to it here, but it was already posted D:

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Thanks guys! New recommendatins added. Sputter1, did you mean to link a shootout rather than a single review?

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Good evening all,

I am brand new to this forum and more than happy I was able to stumble across it. There is much great information here plus it looks like a fun and friendly group of members. Here is my problem.
I am looking to purchase a sub-woofer that will mate with my Magnapan 1.6 heavily modified (Peter Gunn) speakers. I listen 100% to jazz small groups and big bands, classical music of all kinds with my favorite being large scale orchestral works, smaller works, piano, cello and violin music and finally organ works. I want a sub that will reproduce the low 32hz organ pedal tones as well as the large kettle drums.
The remainder of my music system consist of a Threshold power amp, Classe pre-amp, VPI turntable with SME arm and Grado Reference and Shure V15 cartridges. I also use a Parasound belt drive CD transport and tube DAC plus a large collection of power and interconnect cables. I listen mostly to LP records and CD's. I almost forgot I love some folk music as well.
My music room is 13 feet wide by 23 feet long with 9 foot ceilings. I will appreciate all comments and suggestions. Again, the sub must integrate seamlessly with my Magnapan planar speakers. Thank you all in advance for your suggestions.

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Guys we have forgotten Ilkka's tests.
Here's a link at HTS:
http://www.hometheatershack.com/foru...rer-model.html

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Here's a link at HTS:
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yes and thanks! added!

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How about this SVS vs Axiom blind test? http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...lind-test.html

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thanks - updated.

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Archaea you've gotten to the heart of where a lot of DIY enthusiast,s interests are.
Congratulations and thank you.
Newcomers have hours worth of testing notes and comparisons to pour over before making decisions for a build or a buy.
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We are planning a large GTG for February here in Delaware/Philly. We are calling it the East Coast GTG. Here is the link for the interest thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1378707
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I heard there was a large subwoofer GTG in KC this past weekend.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t=subfest+2011
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Really liked the JL 113 when I had the chance to finally listen to it. Very well suited for music also. I would say it's at the top of my list.
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updated with shadyJ's Rythmik FV12 vs other subs compro.

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updated with a section for upcoming meets and added the 2011 HEMI subwoofer meet.

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I think it would be of much more help to people if you relabeled our shootout "Two Brothers Sub Shootout", it's a little nondescript.

I would suggest something like "1K$ Sub Shootout with Video, Photo Galleries and Graphs", you know something that lets people know what to expect, especially since there's a ton of unique content there. smile.gif

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I think it would be of much more help to people if you relabeled our shootout "Two Brothers Sub Shootout", it's a little nondescript.

I would suggest something like "1K$ Sub Shootout with Video, Photo Galleries and Graphs", you know something that lets people know what to expect, especially since there's a ton of unique content there. smile.gif

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I understand what you mean, but nearly all of these shootouts have photos, many have graphs, and a few even have video. Those labels become some what redundant. I did update the title of your shootout to include the specific price range of subs you compared. When I have some free time in the next couple weeks I'll try to put a legend of sorts in the sticky with some references to each meet/shootout link's materials like you asked.

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