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Was able to do a quick calibration before I left. Slapped in world war z and ran the grenade scene. Speechless and just pure ear orgasm. Will have to do some more fine tuning when I get back. Everyone have a safe and happy holidays.
Hey Joe just a quick suggestion: put a throw rung under the sub (driver) and see how the sound changes, I think you'll prefer that, just a suggestion my friend..
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@Alan I see you're not using RC anymore, can you tell me why and what you did to get the FR as good as you said it was, I'm all ears. My FR is so flat I believe I'm missing some impact (sterile) although it does sound very good with the V1800s. Considering adding a third, been chatting with Jim and working on some ideas. I really need to learn how to use this miniDSP that's been unopened for two years now.....I'm just a bit concerned about the input voltage of the unbalanced version, that;'s still no excuse not to use it............. Thanks
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Hey Joe just a quick suggestion: put a throw rung under the sub (driver) and see how the sound changes, I think you'll prefer that, just a suggestion my friend..
Do you mean throw rug?
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Hey Claw, you need to post those graphs (sub(s) only) with no smoothing, I see you're using 1/6th, I see you also corrected the vertical axis to read 5dB increments instead of 10dB No smoothing will reveal more problematic areas and will be easier to interpret.
The REW PDF suggests running the sub sweeps with the left speaker going. Is that not right? I have the AVR crossed over at 80 hz. I assumed that this was beneficial to see how well the speaker and sub crossed over together.

I understand that 1/6th smoothing is fine for bass, or mostly, not true?

So 5 or 10 db axis?

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The REW PDF suggests running the sub sweeps with the left speaker going. Is that not right? I have the AVR crossed over at 80 hz. I assumed that this was beneficial to see how well the speaker and sub crossed over together.

I understand that 1/6th smoothing is fine for bass, or mostly, not true?

So 5 or 10 db axis?

I'll run some more stuff tonight.
5dB is correct for the vertical axis with all REW measurements. When doing sub sweeps with a speaker it's best to use CC + subs 15-200 or 300Hz, also any speaker can be used L+R or L only or R only and keep your crossover set to whatever you generally use. It reaaly doesn't matter if you use the left speaker but if you're trying to set your bass response for HT duty it's reco'd to use the CC. This also pertains to the sub distance tweak after calibration. Regardless of of speaker (s) used when trying to measure bass response you want the graphs with no smoothing unless you're doing full range speaker sub measurements.

1/6th is not used for bass response 15-300Hz with speakers + subs or subs only measurements. You said you were doing compression sweeps if I recall, that's subs only measurements. There's a couple ways to do sub only measurements, set your mains to large select HDMI 4 and run the sweep, you can also set the LPF/LFE to the highest value or off in the AVR speaker menu setup, use HDMI 4 and sweep 15-200Hz, I use 15-100Hz. Here's an example of a compression sweep with subs only no smoothing added.

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This 15-100Hz starting at -20dB MV to 0 dB MV, you can see some slight compression on the last sweep at 0dB..........
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5dB is correct for the vertical axis with all REW measurements. When doing sub sweeps with a speaker it's best to use CC + subs 15-200 or 300Hz, also any speaker can be used L+R or L only or R only and keep your crossover set to whatever you generally use. It reaaly doesn't matter if you use the left speaker but if you're trying to set your bass response for HT duty it's reco'd to use the CC. This also pertains to the sub distance tweak after calibration. Regardless of of speaker (s) used when trying to measure bass response you want the graphs with no smoothing unless you're doing full range speaker sub measurements.

1/6th is not used for bass response 15-300Hz with speakers + subs or subs only measurements. You said you were doing compression sweeps if I recall, that's subs only measurements. There's a couple ways to do sub only measurements, set your mains to large select HDMI 4 and run the sweep, you can also set the LPF/LFE to the highest value or off in the AVR speaker menu setup, use HDMI 4 and sweep 15-200Hz, I use 15-100Hz. Here's an example of a compression sweep with subs only no smoothing added.

Hope this helps......



This 15-100Hz starting at -20dB MV to 0 dB MV, you can see some slight compression on the last sweep at 0dB..........
Thanks!

I'm using the headphone jack on my laptop to AUX RCA on my AVR, which will change many of the things you mentioned. I'm guessing if the speakers are playing with a crossover it shouldn't really matter as long as you know the crossover point.



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I'm using the headphone jack on my laptop to AUX RCA on my AVR, which will change many of the things you mentioned. I'm guessing if the speakers are playing with a crossover it shouldn't really matter as long as you know the crossover point.
Yes that's correct, all things will change. To find the best crossover from speaker to sub I would take a speaker only measurement, say the left speaker and then a sub(s) only measurement and overlay the two graphs and this will help to determine the best (Hz) crossover to use. How to do it with the Java driver I don't know, others may be able to help. I'll try to find a graph(s) I have to further help you understand what I'm saying with different XOs used and you'll see why I choose the XO I did.
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Do you mean throw rug?
Yeah Joe that will be fine, I don't have plush carpeting so anything IMO would be better than a bare floor or maybe I'm out of my mind as well..........Others will confirm my sanity or insanity

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Yeah Joe that will be fine, I don't have plush carpeting so anything IMO would be better than a bare floor or maybe I'm out of my mind as well..........Others will confirm my sanity or insanity

Cheers Jeffrey
Thank you for the suggestion. I'll have to try it when I get back home. What do you think about using a piece of anti fatigue mat?
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Tell me more about this measurement. Is this in room at Your MLP? Did you apply any filters? Corrections? What did it look like before? What was the room size? What subwoofers, number?



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Thank you for the suggestion. I'll have to try it when I get back home. What do you think about using a piece of anti fatigue mat?
Decoupling the subs from the floor won't make any real difference in sound quality, but it may help with things rattling on the walls. I had my SVS on anti fatigue mat and it did nothing, I put it on a sub-dude (not recommending you buy one) and the rattles decreased drastically. In my case there was no other benefit to the sub-dude...YMMV
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New Sub!!

Hey all, just wanted to chime in as it's been a few weeks with my new v1500 and all I can say is... WOW.. WOW... and... WOW...

Amazing to hear my second story windows rattle during the train scene in Super 8. Just a tremendous product.
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Yes that's correct, all things will change. To find the best crossover from speaker to sub I would take a speaker only measurement, say the left speaker and then a sub(s) only measurement and overlay the two graphs and this will help to determine the best (Hz) crossover to use. How to do it with the Java driver I don't know, others may be able to help. I'll try to find a graph(s) I have to further help you understand what I'm saying with different XOs used and you'll see why I choose the XO I did.
No Smoothing...

Red line is without Audyssey, but I do have a low end DSP shelf active via the Mini DSP

Blue line is with the DSP and Audyssey engaged.
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WOW!!! I was away for a week and just got caught up on this thread. You guys have been busy.

It's cool to see some new PSA sub owners. It's even more cool to see they are starting to receive their new subs. Congratulations guys.

I also see newC33 lost his mind and ordered quad T18's. I like it! It's pure insanity but I like it!
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Thank you for the suggestion. I'll have to try it when I get back home. What do you think about using a piece of anti fatigue mat?
I don't think that would provide any thing special or have much benefit and with the sub dudes I feel the same way, they do help with house rattles but as far as sonic benefits I didn't find much if any, that's just my opinion. Any old rug or you can try throwing a thick bath towel under it. Listen before the towel and after with the same song or movie scene and see if you can discern a difference. I have different preferences and you may like it with the towel or not, that's your preference. Worth a shot.........
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I don't think that would provide any thing special or have much benefit and with the sub dudes I feel the same way, they do help with house rattles but as far as sonic benefits I didn't find much if any, that's just my opinion. Any old rug or you can try throwing a thick bath towel under it. Listen before the towel and after with the same song or movie scene and see if you can discern a difference. I have different preferences and you may like it with the towel or not, that's your preference. Worth a shot.........
Yes it is worth a shot. Thank you very much.
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Tell me more about this measurement. Is this in room at Your MLP? Did you apply any filters? Corrections? What did it look like before? What was the room size? What subwoofers, number?
Yes this is in my room at the MLP after XT32 calibration from a distance of about 12' with two V1800s equidistant to LP. The room is 2700^3 and not sealed. Prior to calibration (RC) the FR was pretty flat to 60Hz with about a 10dB dip at 65Hz and 75Hz. I used REW prior to calibration (Audy) to get the dips a little less dippy () and then ran RC software with SUB EQ. I also further tweaked the reponse with the Sub Distance Tweak that really worked wonders in my room even though the subs were equidistant to MLP.

Here's a sub sweep before and after AUDY.. with no tweaking



Here's a sub only FR with the subs in a certain position, notice the huge dip, the purpose of these next graphs is to show how a slight movement of the sub (s) can make such a difference.



After slight turn of sub (s) same measurement as above different results with nothing but a simple 45 degree turn.



This graph will show why I chose a 80Hz croosover, remember none of these graphs are smoothed, when taking these types of sweeps no smoothing must be used to get the true result what's happening with your bass response, all of these are about that, bass response.



After this sweep I was able to use the SDT to bring that 70Hz dip up to almost flat. All of this takes work, I wish I could just plop my subs down level or gain match them and voila you have a perfect bass FR. Prior to discovering REW I thought everything sounded really good so I decided to measure what I was hearing and needless to say what I was hearing didn't "LOOK" too good after some measurements. Sorry to clutter up this thread with all the graphs but I also more to explain why and what I'm hearing.

Thinking of adding a third V1800 NR for a little more TR, not chest caving TR but a little more thump.........
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Yes it is worth a shot. Thank you very much.
You're quite welcome, feel free to ask anything in this thread about anything........
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Hi all, forgive me if this has been answered already, I was just wondering what benefit, if any there was to setting the room size control to small prior to running audyssey and then back to large after?
I have both my 15v and v1500 set to large currently. My room is pretty small ish, maybe 15x20 with a small adjoining bar room and opening to one hallway.
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That will add a bunch of eq boost below 40hz...not sure I would set RC to large after calibrating small. You might try in the middle.
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It's cool to see some new PSA sub owners. It's even more cool to see they are starting to receive their new subs. Congratulations guys.

I also see newC33 lost his mind and ordered quad T18's. I like it! It's pure insanity but I like it!
I was wondering when you were gonna comment on that! Im soooo excited! Transferring funds tomorrow and sending my debit card info to tom!
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I was watching Black Hawk Down and thinking, this audio is really subdued (my female dog didn't even leave the room). After the movie, I consulted "The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts" thread and realized I should check the audio format. There was 5.1 and 5.1 PCM Uncompressed, night and day difference!
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Hi all, forgive me if this has been answered already, I was just wondering what benefit, if any there was to setting the room size control to small prior to running audyssey and then back to large after?
I have both my 15v and v1500 set to large currently. My room is pretty small ish, maybe 15x20 with a small adjoining bar room and opening to one hallway.
I would start with the control at the midpoint. This way once Audyssey( or whatever room correction you use) is finished you have the ability to both boost and cut the deeper frequencies a bit to suit personal preference.

Some of this is splitting hairs though to be sure. So if anyone set it too large don't panic..

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Hello,

Thought I would provide an update on my two V1800’s I got last Thursday. (Previously had a Klipsch rw-10d and an SVS PB12-Plus)

When I first got the boxes, I thought they would be bigger. I’m guessing most people say the opposite. They were packed well, and had 0 issues setting them up as per the instructions on the website. They also weighed little enough that I could move them around myself.

In my room I have one position where a sub sounds great, and the second position is ok. It’s place nearfield as an end table at the moment. Running Audyssey (Marantz 6010) with the subs at 50% wasn’t even close to the recommended 75db. Had to turn down the gain to about the third dot. This left my results with both subs at -12db. Since I didn’t have much time, I dropped them both to 11.5 and began playing some material. Played with some bass heavy music, and a couple familiar movies. (Batman begins, the force awakens, war of the worlds.) They did a good job, and got extremely loud if needed.

Can’t say I was initially impressed with the sound. The subs had the issue where the amp was cycling every 60 seconds, and it was driving me nuts. So I emailed Tom and after a few emails figured out what the issues were. 1. RCA plugged into the wrong input on the back. (didn’t use the LFE because it was dark and “guessed”) 2. Signal from the AVR was too low with the subs at -11.5. I also read this post. I suggest everyone read it who is like myself and new into home theatre. ("Official" Audyssey thread (FAQ in post #51779))

After the weekend, I set the gain on the subs to the second dot and the results were much better. Speakers came out to -7ish, and the subs are at -4db each. The amp cycling issue is gone, and the sound improved for whatever reason. I hope this helps anyone else with this issue. I saw a post higher up with that same problem.

Replayed some music, and watched sausage party with the wife. Coming from a single PB12-Plus to the dual V1800 is a night and day difference. They sound better to me. Can’t describe it, but we both like these subs better. The bass seemed more even from duals, but also hit lower, and could get much much louder.

Overall, I’m impressed with these subs. I do like the finish on them, and they aren’t that heavy when compared to others. I would take the one v1800 over the PB12-plus also. To me, there is a sound improvement with additional low end. The customer service was miles ahead of the Canadian SVS retailer also.(Was looking at a single PB16-Ultra) I'm glad I went with two over the one large one. In the end, it came down to Funk and PSA due to their outstanding customer service. The Funks were more than I'd like to spend at the moment but one day those Funks will be in my living room.

Hopefully this helps out anyone in the future. Love these subs.
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Try again bass... i dont have any PMs. It says my last PM was on november 10th. Im using the Tapatalk app, maybe its messed up? Is it possible to be full of PMs? Maybe i need to delete

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If a couple of people could send me a quick PM id appreciate it. I dont think im getting mine

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I had a couple PMs come through so i guess it is working. Send me another bass and i should get it this time. Idk what happened. Thought maybe i wasn't getting them since the last one was received over a months ago.... guess im just not very popular LOL
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