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so i was gonna do this whole upgrade system thing. started with a additional 3000i which turned into 2 3000i for a total of 4 3000is which i love. i also placed a order for a 5040ub to replace my 5030 and denon x3300 to replace my onkyo 818 which i love and has been a true champ. anyway so i decided to just have the 2 subs be my only upgrade this year since the projector isnt a true 4k and i love the picture on my 5030 and onkyo does everything i need so far. i canceled the projector but the denon had already shipped it came to my door today and it was suppose to be signatured required but the dude just left it. so i figured since it was here might as well try it out. i gotta say i love the way it calibrated my system. having the dual sub eq really helps i think the subs sound great!!! much better than with the onkyo. so my question is this should i keep the denon or send it back and spend the money on rew equipment for intergrating the 4 subwoofers. i mean for now the only places to put them will be stacked on the corners or spread out along the front wal either way they are slamming now!!
I'm not sure why you would get additional S3000s if you have nowhere to place them? I just want to understand.

Wouldn't it have made more sense to trade the 3000s for 3600s or even T18s?

Oh, keep the X3300!👍
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yes thats what i want to do. id say in another year ill have this room free in my house thats pretty big and i wanted to have the subwoofers waiting for it.im gonna send the 2 s3000is back for the t18 in the outlet. then when psa restocks the t18 or introduces something equal to it ill buy that.
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@newc33 great writeup on the T18s.👍 You having me chomping at the bit for T18.1 pre-orders to be announced so I have a chance to get some 2nd-hand T18s!

Turn back the clock a bit. I understand moving from the Rythmik F12, but whatever made you move from the FV15HPs? Any way you can compare the FV15HPs with the S3600s?
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If everyone was talking about the S1801 would it reinforce your decision? If I had an S1801 I sure as hell wouldn't second guess it.
This is good...tough love.

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And seeing people running quad V3600/1s makes me second guess getting a V1801 . While this forum is cool, it's certainly not for comparison of any "normal" listening behaviors.
Yeah, this is a good point. I have to be reminded at times that at this point, I've gone beyond "normal" audio solutions, ha.
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Anyone still waiting on tracking, Monday will be the day. We actually have all of the V1801 subs built and boxed but we couldn't fit them all on the last fedex truck and they can't get us another today.

We just got a new toy for the office system too, no time to even open it. MAYBE over the weekend...

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Maybe I missed it but can someone explain to me the room size knob?
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Maybe I missed it but can someone explain to me the room size knob?


It attenuates the frequencies at the low end in order to compensate for what is known as room gain where you get a lot of extra bass because of the room layout and subwoofer location. Setting this to the large setting will provide no attenuation (or cutting) of the native response of the sub. Setting it to small will give the maximum attenuation. Setting this to a smaller setting has the effect of making the bass sound tighter and less sloppy. However this will be a preference thing where there is no right or wrong setting. I recommend setting it to the largest setting then run any EQ you may have for the sub then your room correction from the avr or processor. If you are not happy with the sound then you can make some adjustments afterwards. I have a very small room and set my 15v to the largest setting and leave it. I don't have any issues with any source. Movies, tv, music, video games all sound fantastic.
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Kinda hoped mine would be here before the 3 day weekend, but the good new is it will be here Monday. And I will actually be home to sign for it!
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Kinda hoped mine would be here before the 3 day weekend, but the good new is it will be here Monday. And I will actually be home to sign for it!


That was my issue, not home to sign when my 15v arrived. Routed to a FedEx office location and had to wait an extra day. Funny thing is when I went to pick it up the guy behind the counter asked my name then looked right at me and said "so you are the one ordering the subwoofer huh?" I was surprised he recognized the name on the box.
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Anyone still waiting on tracking, Monday will be the day. We actually have all of the V1801 subs built and boxed but we couldn't fit them all on the last fedex truck and they can't get us another today.

We just got a new toy for the office system too, no time to even open it. MAYBE over the weekend...

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Is this to test PSA'S new Atmos speakers?
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I received my S3601 today. The local delivery company would only put it in my garage, so I had to get it into the house and then run off to work. After a workday that seemed to last forever, I was finally able to set up the subwoofer and play some demo material. My current subwoofer was a SVS 20-39PCi, which has served me well over the years. My first impression of the S3601 is that it's a large subwoofer. I measured the space out for it and it still was surprising to see how large it is in person.

I ran a few known bass clips (Finding Nemo, LOTR, Edge of Tomorrow) and was very impressed. While my SVS 20-39PCi would struggle with some of the material, the S3601 didn't even seem to be putting any effort into it. It sounds fantastic with movies and especially music.

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1. When I turn the sub to Auto, it turns off whenever there is a lull in bass. It then clicks and turns on whenever there is bass. It's extremely annoying to change channels and then hear the click of the sub turning on a few seconds later. I then ran a loop of Atmos demo material. Between every video switch, the sub turns off and then on again. Is anyone else having this issue with the Auto setting?
2. I know some people dial up the subwoofer volume. I think I've seen the +6dB number a lot. Is there a reason that particular number is used?
3. Do I need to adjust the room size if I am running Audyssey XT32?
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The new Tiffany lamp look incredible on the cordavan cherry S1500, however it did walk from the middle to the back in about 30 minutes of X-Men Apocalypse at ~ reference. So, tomorrow I shall see what I can find at Walmart that is rubbery to go between the lamp and subwoofer. The lamp looks so good and shows off the sub finish so well that I ordered a similar but different Tiffany lamp for the sub at the other end of the couch, should be here Sunday!
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I'd like to hear about the auto question as well asi am new to subs How reactive is it? If the material calls for bass, does it take a second to click on and you miss a portion?
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I received my S3601 today.

A few questions.
1. When I turn the sub to Auto, it turns off whenever there is a lull in bass. It then clicks and turns on whenever there is bass. It's extremely annoying to change channels and then hear the click of the sub turning on a few seconds later. I then ran a loop of Atmos demo material. Between every video switch, the sub turns off and then on again. Is anyone else having this issue with the Auto setting?

Mine did the same thing, Turned up and gain knob (a faction) on the back of the speaker and all joy since

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Mine did the same thing, Turned up and gain knob (a faction) on the back of the speaker and all joy since
I set the gain position in order for the Audyssey calibration to remain around 75dB. So I'm reluctant to raise it because of the calibration.
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DANG!!!!! These new XX01 subs look fantastic. Tang I looked at your pictures and I felt my heart skip a beat. I can't wait to get my new V3601's, I think I'll have to run them with the covers off… it seems a down right shame to cover up those drivers.


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I set the gain position in order for the Audyssey calibration to remain around 75dB. So I'm reluctant to raise it because of the calibration.
I've been having the opposite problem. Mine turns on when signal is received just fine, but after turning off the TV/AVR, the subs will try to turn off after several minutes but turn immediately back on. I first noticed this when getting up the morning after I got them and hearing the amp cut off and back on a few times. All I can do is turn the subs off after use. I plan to chat with Tom to try to find solutions.
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I'd like to hear about the auto question as well asi am new to subs How reactive is it? If the material calls for bass, does it take a second to click on and you miss a portion?
The auto-on on the ICE modules works a little different from most subs. The duration of the "awake" cycle is dependent on the signal strength that activates it. It can be anywhere from about one minute to 14 minutes.

If the amp is going into "sleep" mode too often the solution is too increase the signal strength it sees. Turn up the bass level setting in the receiver and lower the gain setting on the sub amp as needed to maintain the correct calibration levels. You can also add a Y splitter and connect both inputs on the sub amp---this will give you a 6dB signal gain.

There is a 1-2 second delay between the sub sensing the signal and reproducing the bass.

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I set the gain position in order for the Audyssey calibration to remain around 75dB. So I'm reluctant to raise it because of the calibration.
What did Audyssey set your LFE to (Speakers/Manual/Levels)? It should be between -6dB and -11.5dB (-12dB means gain is too high, Audyssey mic is clipping). If not, adjust gain knob and re-run Audyssey.

After Audyssey completes, raise the LFE level manually +3dB (or higher to taste) but try not to exceed -3dB and definitely not 0.

If Auto on/off on the sub still does not work properly there is probably an issue with your Speakerpower amp.
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The auto-on on the ICE modules works a little different from most subs. The duration of the "awake" cycle is dependent on the signal strength that activates it. It can be anywhere from about one minute to 14 minutes.

If the amp is going into "sleep" mode too often the solution is too increase the signal strength it sees. Turn up the bass level setting in the receiver and lower the gain setting on the sub amp as needed to maintain the correct calibration levels. You can also add a Y splitter and connect both inputs on the sub amp---this will give you a 6dB signal gain.
Do you know what the power draw is for leaving the subwoofer ON all the time? I would think it's minimal if it's not actually producing bass, but I don't know.

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What did Audyssey set your LFE to (Speakers/Manual/Levels)? It should be between -6dB and -11.5dB (-12dB means gain is too high, Audyssey mic is clipping). If not, adjust gain knob and re-run Audyssey.

After Audyssey completes, raise the LFE level manually +3dB (or higher to taste) but try not to exceed -3dB and definitely not 0.

If Auto on/off on the sub still does not work properly there is probably an issue with your Speakerpower amp.
My gain knob is currently set at 9 o'clock to reach 75dB for the Audyssey calibration. Audyssey then set my sub to -3.5dB. I went into the subwoofer level adjust and set it to +6.0dB. I'm going to install two more ceiling channels on Tuesday, so I'll run everything again.
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I've been having the opposite problem. Mine turns on when signal is received just fine, but after turning off the TV/AVR, the subs will try to turn off after several minutes but turn immediately back on. I first noticed this when getting up the morning after I got them and hearing the amp cut off and back on a few times. All I can do is turn the subs off after use. I plan to chat with Tom to try to find solutions.
If the auto-on cycles it is getting interference and sensing that as a "signal". The "noise" usually gets in thru the sub cable but in rare cases it can be stray RF into the open RCA jack on the sub too. This is the only downside to the ICE modules to date(being overly sensitive to stray "noise" within the auto-on circuit). We've been *begging* Brian to change this since day one but it's not as easy as some might think.

1)be sure the sub cable is well shielded.
2)Route the sub cable away from any AC cords.
3)If you have a Y split, try that(using both inputs on the amp will minimize any chance of stray RF

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Do you know what the power draw is for leaving the subwoofer ON all the time? I would think it's minimal if it's not actually producing bass, but I don't know.
I'll measure it again today to be sure---IIRC something like 14 watts at idle.

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What did Audyssey set your LFE to (Speakers/Manual/Levels)? It should be between -6dB and -11.5dB (-12dB means gain is too high, Audyssey mic is clipping). If not, adjust gain knob and re-run Audyssey.

After Audyssey completes, raise the LFE level manually +3dB (or higher to taste) but try not to exceed -3dB and definitely not 0.

If Auto on/off on the sub still does not work properly there is probably an issue with your Speakerpower amp.
I have had no issues using 0db sub trim. 0 means there is no attenuation to the signal. More then likely he will need the AVR sub trim in the 0 range to keep the sub from going to sleep after a minute or so. That is what I had to do with my ICE amps or they switch off all the time. With the Bash stuff I could calibrate -9 and manually bump the trim to -3 and auto on was fine...The other option is to use both inputs on the sub amp as Tom mentioned. I doubt there is a problem with the Amp.

Edit* just seen Torkerblue last post. +6 and the sub still shuts off. That seems rather odd. Definitely should not need that much gain to keep the amp on. I would try using both inputs on the amp.
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I have had no issues using 0db sub trim. 0 means there is no attenuation to the signal.
In the Audyssey thread, for D+M units the trim level recommendation was updated.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-receivers-amps-processors/2376770-official-audyssey-thread-part-ii-post47140321.html

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The most commonly asked question on the Audyssey thread these days involves subwoofer settings….

….To summarize the best practice recommendation for adding sub boosts: it is to try to keep AVR sub trim levels no higher than approximately -5 to -3, after adding however much sub boost may be preferred.
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I have not had any issues, it doesn't start up as quiet as my SVS SUB did but it starts up every time and has not shut off during movies or music. Gain is at 11 and AVR -3 using one cable to the LFE.

I will say my V3601 seems to have broke in if there is such a thing, at first I was impressed. Now after about 20 hours of playing it HOLY CRAP it hits hard and loud. I can't imagine what you guys with 2 or 4 of these along with Toms supporting speakers experience. For the first time I had to turn my AVR down from my normal listening level. My previous sub I ran +8 on the AVR from Audyssey set up setting and my gain was nearly all the way up, this V3601 isn't even working hard.
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3)If you have a Y split, try that(using both inputs on the amp will minimize any chance of stray RF
If you have RFI interference, the best protection is to use a directional subwoofer cable (with the arrows for signal direction). I do not believe that that conductivity matters in one direction vs another (like many boutique cable manufacturers claim). However, these cables utilize two signal conductors (for + & -) separate from the shield (standard coax uses shield for -). On these cables ground is lifted on the output side of the cable (input to the subwoofer). This allows any RFI noise picked up by the shield (which can act like an antenna) to drain to ground at the input side of the cable (LFE out).

With standard coax, the Y-splitter is ok. With directional cables, the Y-splitter can present as a new source (antenna) for RFI to enter the subwoofer amp. I know this because I have a ton of RFI. I live 10 miles from transmitters atop Sierra Peak in the Cleveland National Forest.

The longer the run the greater the chance for RFI, EMI, and ground loop noise. For this reason, I wish PSA had not omitted the balanced XLR inputs that Speakerpower includes on their amps. I like to use balanced interconnects for any run over 15ft.

Directional subwoofer cables can be purchased without breaking the bank. SVS Soundpath Cables are probably the best option (as long as 15m). You can also find good deals on discontinued cables from Acoustic Research, AudioQuest, and Monster Cable on Amazon and ebay.

https://www.svsound.com/products/sou...rconnect-cable


Wireless is another option, but I prefer wired whenever possible.
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