Originally Posted by mdameron
After 2 consecutive nights of testing and running audyssey dozens of times, I'm perplexed by the 15V. It is impressive to behold and has all the specs and I want to love it. But post-Audyssey, my little $100 Bic V80 seems to perform just as well as the 15V. Tonight I am going to bring in my $100 Monoprice 12" to further compare. To get bass I can feel, I have to have the 15V as an end table to the MLP, run Audyssey on the minimum room size setting, max the room size post-Audyssey, and also up the trim. Last week I watched London Has Fallen with a 3 db hot V80. Watched again last night and the 15V sitting in the same spot is a noticeable improvement in the ultra low frequencies, but is unable to achieve 'tactile'. That's 4' from the MLP in a 1900 cubic foot room. Like I said, it is perplexing. I have tried my 6 possible spots with varying levels of space between the port and wall. From 3" to 8"+.
This is why you should use the large room size setting prior to running RC software:
Keep the room size control set to LARGE before doing any measurements or calibration. This will give Audyssey a chance to EQ the lowest frequencies without trying to artificially boost the low end. After Audyssey and calibration, adjust the room size control to your preference.
Originally Posted by Pulloutchamp
I dont have Audyssey , I run the calibration thru Onkyos version of audyssey , which im led to believe is not all that great. My sub levels never end up in the negative lately (they did once before but I cant remember what sub , but I know it was nothing compared to the 1801) , in fact I get alot of errors with it now saying there is too much ambient noise when the room is pretty silent so that makes me think it really isnt that great. I have the gain on the sub at about 1 o'clock and the crossover turned all the way clockwise for the LFE. When I run the calibration inside the AVR it always sets my Sub Level @ 0 and Crossover @ 120hz.....I go in and lower the sub level to around -4/-6 , and there is still PLENTY of bass there , some scenes I will lower to 8 or 10 if things start getting crazy..I kind of mess around with the crossover for the sub in the AVR and put it at 80hz as Ive read time and time again , but I have recently put it back to 120hz per a recommendation a few posts back. Not really a lot of difference , maybe someone with a better ear can notice it? So all in all , I need a better receiver that has Audyssey and will give me results that most others on here get.....
This is the main reason: Onkyo's proprietary RC software is not very good, I'm holding onto my Onkyo 1010 for that specific reason, it has XT32 SUB EQ, also bought a Denon 4300 for Atmos and not Onkyo that I have been using for countless years........I'm thinking of selling the 1010 but that AVR is a brute with it's internal amps and weighs 51 pounds and just cringe when I think about letting it go.
Originally Posted by claw
You could have given me warning!
I decided to test first by raising the sub levels by +3 db each. At the first bridge scene in Deadpool, it felt like an earthquake hit and feared my house was going to split apart! This was with the Denon x4200w volume set to -12 db which is the loudest my ears can handle when playing UHD Blu Ray discs from my Oppo 203. I will be sticking with the Audyssey settings for now and perhaps +1 db at the most.
I am not familiar with REW, but I will definitely take a look.
Best investment you could make on the inexpensive side, just don't fall down the REW rabbit hole. WARNING, why do that and spoil the surprise I wish I could have seen your face, bump up the sub trim +6dB (on both) and listen at -15 MV, you have been warned..........
I happy for you my friend, enjoy the PSA experience.........
"5.0" you're only 19-20 versions behind, all the bugs are gone and so many more features added, good job with the subs, Marc has some good advice once in a while.....